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  • #992
    traprunner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    AlphaRed wrote: »
    Well we are copying the concept, are we not?

    Good question but as you know the gay lobby has been picking off countries one by one



    They claim the church and schools will not be affected by gay marriage and yet we see proof in other countries that the church and schools are affect.

    The church should have nothing to do with schools in the first place. It's where many priests groomed and assaulted young children.

    The church should fook right off out of civil marriages. They can have their own version that don't have any standing in law but all civil marriages should be carried out by the state.


  • #993
    traprunner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    AlphaRed wrote: »
    Now, will you kindly stay out of our lives?

    This is a CIVIL matter. Nothing to do with religion. I do not want any religion having a say in my life.


  • #994
    AlphaRed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 256 ✭✭AlphaRed


    Not a NSA agent wrote: »
    Will the churches stay out of ours?
    Gladly
    traprunner wrote: »
    The church should have nothing to do with schools in the first place. It's where many priests groomed and assaulted young children.

    Gay men who where hiding as priests, you mean? Catholic schools are part of our identity. So you do think they gay lobby should go after schools next?
    traprunner wrote: »
    The church should fook right off out of civil marriages. They can have their own version that don't have any standing in law but all civil marriages should be carried out by the state.

    Again, this is our identity and you're being totally offensive now.


  • #995
    Sofiztikated
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    AlphaRed wrote: »



    Gay men who where hiding as priests, you mean? Catholic schools are part of our identity. So you do think they gay lobby should go after schools next?




    Incorrect. Paedophiles were posing as priests.


  • #996
    AlphaRed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 256 ✭✭AlphaRed


    traprunner wrote: »
    This is a CIVIL matter. Nothing to do with religion. I do not want any religion having a say in my life.

    But it does have to do with religion because religion is apart of our identity and we don't want you changing it.

    Now I've giving proof of what the gay lobby are planning. You have to vote NO now. Thanks.


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  • #997
    meglome
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    AlphaRed wrote: »
    Well we are copying the concept, are we not?

    No we are not. We are trying to make our society more equal. It's irrelevant what they do anywhere else.
    AlphaRed wrote: »
    Good question but as you know the gay lobby has been picking off countries one by one

    Your terminology actually offends me. If countries vote to have the sky painted green then that's what that country wanted. Democracy is a wonderful thing.
    AlphaRed wrote: »
    They claim the church and schools will not be affected by gay marriage and yet we see proof in other countries that the church and schools are affect.

    It's not illegal to have sex with animal in some US states. You want me to list all the laws in other countries that have nothing whatsoever to do with us?


  • #998
    AlphaRed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 256 ✭✭AlphaRed


    Sofiztikated wrote: »
    Incorrect. Paedophiles were posing as priests.

    That's a debate for another time.


  • #999
    traprunner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    Sofiztikated wrote: »
    Incorrect. Paedophiles were posing as priests.

    Nah, some did believe in their priesthood and were also pedophiles.


  • #1000
    Sofiztikated
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    AlphaRed wrote: »
    That's a debate for another time.

    No, it's me correcting you as you were incorrect.


  • #1001
    traprunner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    AlphaRed wrote: »
    But it does have to do with religion because religion is apart of our identity and we don't want you changing it.

    Now I've giving proof of what the gay lobby are planning. You have to vote NO now. Thanks.

    Who is 'our'? Lolek Ltd?? Religion has nothing to do with my identity.

    I approached the whole referendum with an open mind and researched and educated myself (just as I did with religion). I choose to vote YES because I know it is the best for the nation of Ireland.


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  • #1002
    AlphaRed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 256 ✭✭AlphaRed


    meglome wrote: »
    No we are not. We are trying to make our society more equal. It's irrelevant what they do anywhere else.

    You know that when they claim it's about being modern they are referring to Ireland being like other countries. The change to the Denmark churches is based off of gay marriage. Don't pretend they are not linked.


    meglome wrote: »
    Your terminology actually offends me. If countries vote to have the sky painted green then that's what that country wanted. Democracy is a wonderful thing.
    And the gay lobby has nothing to do with it, sure.......:rolleyes:


    meglome wrote: »
    It's not illegal to have sex with animal in some US states. You want me to list all the laws in other countries that have nothing whatsoever to do with us?

    But you know gay marriage is the bases of this. Gay marriage is the bases they will use to attack the church


  • #1003
    AlphaRed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 256 ✭✭AlphaRed


    Sofiztikated wrote: »
    No, it's me correcting you as you were incorrect.

    If we got into it now this thread would be locked and I would be banned.
    traprunner wrote: »
    Who is 'our'? Lolek Ltd?? Religion has nothing to do with my identity.

    I approached the whole referendum with an open mind and researched and educated myself (just as I did with religion). I choose to vote YES because I know it is the best for the nation of Ireland.

    If you can't respect my identity how can I respect yours?


  • #1004
    traprunner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    AlphaRed wrote: »
    You know that when they claim it's about being modern they are referring to Ireland being like other countries. The change to the Denmark churches is based off of gay marriage. Don't pretend they are not linked.




    And the gay lobby has nothing to do with it, sure.......:rolleyes:





    But you know gay marriage is the bases of this. Gay marriage is the bases they will use to attack the church

    Doomsday didn't happen after other countries legalised SSM.


  • #1005
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    AlphaRed wrote: »
    If we got into it now this thread would be locked and I would be banned.



    If you can't respect my identity how can I respect yours?

    What exactly are you insinuating Alpha?


  • #1006
    traprunner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    AlphaRed wrote: »
    If we got into it now this thread would be locked and I would be banned.



    If you can't respect my identity how can I respect yours?

    You said 'our' that is inclusive of you and me. You can't force your identity on me by using words like 'our identity'. I want nothing to do with extremists like Lolek Ltd., or you.

    I identify with the LGBT community even though I am straight and Civilly Married (as in what we should discussing here as opposed to church marriage that carries no weight in the referendum because we are not being asked about it). I identify with them because I want an equal world.


  • #1007
    traprunner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    What exactly are you insinuating Alpha?

    I'm intrigued too.


  • #1008
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,273 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    AlphaRed wrote: »
    Gay people are being used to erode the identities of western cultures.

    :rolleyes:


  • #1009
    AlphaRed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 256 ✭✭AlphaRed


    traprunner wrote: »
    Doomsday didn't happen after other countries legalised SSM.

    No one said it would.
    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    What exactly are you insinuating Alpha?

    I'm not falling into that trap
    traprunner wrote: »
    You said 'our' that is inclusive of you and me. You can't force your identity on me by using words like 'our identity'. I want nothing to do with extremists like Lolek Ltd., or you.

    I identify with the LGBT community even though I am straight and Civilly Married (as in what we should discussing here as opposed to church marriage that carries no weight in the referendum because we are not being asked about it). I identify with them because I want an equal world.

    I didn't mean you. Anyway, I've proved what the gay lobby are up to and there is more to come.


  • #1010
    traprunner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    AlphaRed wrote: »
    I didn't mean you. Anyway, I've proved what the gay lobby are up to and there is more to come.

    Can you please provide proof for what the farmers lobby, the teachers lobby, the nurses lobby, the wind farm lobby, the anti wind farm lobby are up to as well because I think they want to conquer the world too.


  • #1011
    Sofiztikated
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    AlphaRed wrote: »

    I'm not falling into that trap

    Don't bring something up if you can't stand by it.

    I didn't mean you. Anyway, I've proved what the gay lobby are up to and there is more to come.

    And what exactly is the Iona Institute and its subsidiary lobbies up to?


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  • #1012
    AlphaRed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 256 ✭✭AlphaRed


    traprunner wrote: »
    Can you please provide proof for what the farmers lobby, the teachers lobby, the nurses lobby, the wind farm lobby, the anti wind farm lobby are up to as well because I think they want to conquer the world too.

    You're immature attitude will not take away from the proof presented of the intentions of the gay lobby


  • #1013
    AlphaRed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 256 ✭✭AlphaRed


    Sofiztikated wrote: »
    And what exactly is the Iona Institute and its subsidiary lobbies up to?

    Why don't you tell me since you seem to know. And provide proof.


  • #1014
    traprunner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    AlphaRed wrote: »
    You're immature attitude will not take away from the proof presented of the intentions of the gay lobby

    No need to insult.
    You are the one with the conspiracy theories not me.


  • #1015
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    AlphaRed wrote: »

    I'm not falling into that trap

    Come now Alpha don;t be so coy if you believe it surely you have to courage of your conviction. What do you have to say about gay people that it would get the thread closed?


  • #1016
    AlphaRed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 256 ✭✭AlphaRed


    traprunner wrote: »
    No need to insult.
    You are the one with the conspiracy theories not me.

    That is not a conspiracy theory:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/denmark/9317447/Gay-Danish-couples-win-right-to-marry-in-church.html

    A conspiracy theory is based on a belief, that article is a FACT


  • #1017
    Sofiztikated
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    AlphaRed wrote: »
    You're immature attitude will not take away from the proof presented of the intentions of the gay lobby

    No, you pointed to proof that a state sanctioned Lutheran church cannot discriminate.

    It's been 20 years since the divorce referendum, and still the RCC in Ireland is not mandated to marry divorcees.


  • #1018
    AlphaRed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 256 ✭✭AlphaRed


    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    Come now Alpha don;t be so coy if you believe it surely you have to courage of your conviction. What do you have to say about gay people that it would get the thread closed?

    You know something, I have information I'm going to drop like a bomb in the next few days about gay people :D


  • #1019
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    AlphaRed wrote: »
    You know something, I have information I'm going to drop like a bomb in the next few days about gay people :D

    Why not give me a preview Alpha. Share and share alike.


  • #1020
    Sofiztikated
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    AlphaRed wrote: »
    Why don't you tell me since you seem to know. And provide proof.

    I haven't a clue. That's why I asked. Seeing as you're the one with the inside track on what's going to happen.


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  • #1021
    traprunner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner


    AlphaRed wrote: »
    That is not a conspiracy theory:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/denmark/9317447/Gay-Danish-couples-win-right-to-marry-in-church.html

    A conspiracy theory is based on a belief, that article is a FACT

    No, the fact is that the Danish churches now accommodate gay weddings. That is brilliant!!

    Conspiracy is that the world is going to turn gay or something like that. (I still can't figure out what you are trying to say).


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