Marriage may be contracted in accordance with law by two persons without distinction

AlphaRed · 19-05-2015 04:49PM

traprunner wrote: »

Reverse vampires would be cool but unfortunately like Alphareds video it has nothing to do with the referendum. I would love some kind of vote on it though.

The video is about cultural subversion. That is exactly what's going on.

AlphaRed · 19-05-2015 04:53PM

traprunner wrote: »

I'm not short sighted. They have every right to use the tools the le provides them and appeal.

I'll ask you not to be so short sighted and closed minded about gay people. The world won't end by letting them be equals.

I cannot pretend a gay couple is the same as a straight couple. The issue is not with someone who happens to be gay the issue is with the real world implications of changing the constitution.

seamus · 19-05-2015 04:53PM

AlphaRed wrote: »

I cannot pretend a gay couple is the same as a straight couple.

Nobody is asking you to. Sameness is not the same thing as equality.

This is the same as this and equal (but not the same) to this.

jobbridge4life · 19-05-2015 04:54PM

AlphaRed wrote: »

I cannot pretend a gay couple is the same as a straight couple. The issue is not with someone who happens to be gay the issue is with the real world implications of changing the constitution.

Real world? I am not confident you have any connection with it anymore. Of all the nonsense ... war?

AlphaRed · 19-05-2015 04:54PM

The Ashers judgment will work in our favour too. Everyone knows it was wrong and they'll take that to the polls on Friday

traprunner · 19-05-2015 04:56PM

AlphaRed wrote: »

The video is about cultural subversion. That is exactly what's going on.

I think some of your last few posts belong in the My mate is a primate thread. Talk about going off topic with conspiracy theories.

traprunner · 19-05-2015 04:56PM

AlphaRed wrote: »

I cannot pretend a gay couple is the same as a straight couple. The issue is not with someone who happens to be gay the issue is with the real world implications of changing the constitution.

Are you saying that you are a homophobe then? If so you can be helped.

AlphaRed · 19-05-2015 04:59PM

seamus wrote: »

Nobody is asking you to. Sameness is not the same thing as equality.

But doesn't there need to be a bases for equality?

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Real world? I am not confident you have any connection with it anymore. Of all the nonsense ... war?

Absolutely war. You think people will allow their identities to be taken away from them? Christian business are being attacked and people will not stand for that. As gays can boycott christian business do you not think they will organize and the same thing to gay business? The are a billion Christians, 1.4 billion muslims and many more other religions. Do you really want to take them on?

jobbridge4life · 19-05-2015 05:02PM

AlphaRed wrote: »

But doesn't there need to be a bases for equality?

Absolutely war. You think people will allow their identities to be taken away from them? Christian business are being attacked and people will not stand for that. As gays can boycott christian business do you not think they will organize and the same thing to gay business? The are a billion Christians, 1.4 billion muslims and many more other religions. Do you really want to take them on?

Am I supposed to be threatened?

AlphaRed · 19-05-2015 05:03PM

traprunner wrote: »

I think some of your last few posts belong in the My mate is a primate thread. Talk about going off topic with conspiracy theories.

The gay lobby is a conspiracy theory now? Look it up. They are trying to change churches in countries where gay marriage was legalized.

traprunner wrote: »

Are you saying that you are a homophobe then? If so you can be helped.

Just please stop with the same old tired accusations. Being a NO Voter doesn't make you a homophobe

AlphaRed · 19-05-2015 05:05PM

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Am I supposed to be threatened?

You're responsible for your own perception. If you attack people's identities they will act to defend themselves.

AlphaRed · 19-05-2015 05:07PM

Think of it, A Global Religious Alliance.

traprunner · 19-05-2015 05:07PM

AlphaRed wrote: »

The gay lobby is a conspiracy theory now? Look it up. They are trying to change churches in countries where gay marriage was legalized.

Just please stop with the same old tired accusations. Being a NO Voter doesn't make you a homophobe

I'd prefer if religion didn't exist. Now you'll be telling me that I'll be starting a one man war too!!

I know voting no doesn't make you a homophobe but what you are saying does.

AlphaRed · 19-05-2015 05:09PM

traprunner wrote: »

I'd prefer if religion didn't exist. Now you'll be telling me that I'll be starting a one man war too!!

I know voting no doesn't make you a homophobe but what you are saying does.

How do you know religion isn't biological like homosexuality?

You're a religa-phobe

Sofiztikated · 19-05-2015 05:10PM

AlphaRed wrote: »

The gay lobby is a conspiracy theory now? Look it up. They are trying to change churches in countries where gay marriage was legalized.

Just please stop with the same old tired accusations. Being a NO Voter doesn't make you a homophobe

You should know the deal by now? Legitimate source, please?

traprunner · 19-05-2015 05:14PM

AlphaRed wrote: »

How do you know religion isn't biological like homosexuality?

You're a religa-phobe

Em...maybe because I made a conscious decision to remove myself from all religion after studying the evidence. Homosexual people can't make that decision. It is not possible to decide that you are gay or not. It can't be learned and it can't be forced upon you like religion.

I am most certainly not a religa-phobe. It does not scare me. It does not intimidate me.

AlphaRed · 19-05-2015 05:15PM

Sofiztikated wrote: »

You should know the deal by now? Legitimate source, please?

I'm working on a thread that has all the links, coming soon.
Here's a quick link I found just now
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2014/June/Denmark-Forces-Churches-to-Conduct-Gay-Marriages/

traprunner · 19-05-2015 05:18PM

AlphaRed wrote: »

I'm working on a thread that has all the links, coming soon.
Here's a quick link I found just now
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2014/June/Denmark-Forces-Churches-to-Conduct-Gay-Marriages/

That is not a legitimate source. It is a very biased source. Reading that website is like reading an ISIS website but for christianity.

This is at the bottom of the page:
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Find peace with God, discover more about God or send us your prayer request.

Call The 700 Club Prayer Center at 1 (800) 823-6053, 24 hours a day.

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AlphaRed · 19-05-2015 05:18PM

traprunner wrote: »

Em...maybe because I made a conscious decision to remove myself from all religion after studying the evidence. Homosexual people can't make that decision. It is not possible to decide that you are gay or not. It can't be learned and it can't be forced upon you like religion.

I am most certainly not a relic-phobe. It does not scare me. It does not intimidate me.

Yes but religion is a naturally occurring phenomenon that happens in all cultures across the globe. I think it's in our DNA. Do you have any spiritual beliefs?

AlphaRed · 19-05-2015 05:19PM

traprunner wrote: »

That is not a legitimate source. It is a very biased source. This is at the bottom of the page:
CBN IS HERE FOR YOU!
Are you seeking answers in life? Are you hurting? Are you facing a difficult situation?

Find peace with God, discover more about God or send us your prayer request.

Call The 700 Club Prayer Center at 1 (800) 823-6053, 24 hours a day.

A caring friend will be there to pray with you in your time of need.

Ok then in the interest of fairness you find a source and I'll find another source.

traprunner · 19-05-2015 05:21PM

AlphaRed wrote: »

Yes but religion is a naturally occurring phenomenon that happens in all cultures across the globe. I think it's in our DNA. Do you have any spiritual beliefs?

This has nothing to do with the referendum. Please stop spouting your Lolek Ltd. crap and go back on topic.

I wish to disengage from talking about religion when it is a civil matter we are voting on.

Not a NSA agent · 19-05-2015 05:24PM

Religion is natural now but homosexuality isn't.

Right....

AlphaRed · 19-05-2015 05:25PM

traprunner wrote: »

This has nothing to do with the referendum. Please stop spouting your Lolek Ltd. crap and go back on topic.

I wish to disengage from talking about religion when it is a civil matter we are voting on.

Is the Telegraph good enough?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/denmark/9317447/Gay-Danish-couples-win-right-to-marry-in-church.html

AlphaRed · 19-05-2015 05:26PM

Not a NSA agent wrote: »

Religion is natural now but homosexuality isn't.

Right....

I said homosexuality was biological

Evidence of the gay lobby (not a conspiracy)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/denmark/9317447/Gay-Danish-couples-win-right-to-marry-in-church.html

meglome · 19-05-2015 05:27PM

AlphaRed wrote: »

Is the Telegraph good enough?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/denmark/9317447/Gay-Danish-couples-win-right-to-marry-in-church.html

Are we introducing Danish law now too?

Villain · 19-05-2015 05:29PM

What has Danish law to do with our Constitution?

traprunner · 19-05-2015 05:29PM

AlphaRed wrote: »

I said homosexuality was biological

Evidence of the gay lobby (not a conspiracy)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/denmark/9317447/Gay-Danish-couples-win-right-to-marry-in-church.html

There are Christian lobbies, gay lobbies, oil lobbies, gas lobbies, telecommunication lobbies, one man lobby that contacts his TD, farmer lobbies....the list is endless. Lobby groups exist for everything. I wish they didn't and they let us get on as a secular state but they are there.

AlphaRed · 19-05-2015 05:32PM

meglome wrote: »

Are we introducing Danish law now too?

Well we are copying the concept, are we not?

Villain wrote: »

What has Danish law to do with our Constitution?

Good question but as you know the gay lobby has been picking off countries one by one

traprunner wrote: »

There are Christian lobbies, gay lobbies, oil lobbies, gas lobbies, telecommunication lobbies, one man lobby that contacts his TD, farmer lobbies....the list is endless. Lobby groups exist for everything. I wish they didn't and they let us get on as a secular state but they are there.

They claim the church and schools will not be affected by gay marriage and yet we see proof in other countries that the church and schools are affect.

AlphaRed · 19-05-2015 05:33PM

Now, will you kindly stay out of our lives?

Not a NSA agent · 19-05-2015 05:34PM

AlphaRed wrote: »

Now, will you kindly stay out of our lives?

Will the churches stay out of ours?

Marriage may be contracted in accordance with law by two persons without distinction

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