Sisters beaten up, held hostage by two men they "met" on Facebook

humanji · 18-05-2015 02:52PM

anvilfour wrote: »

If their story is true, then that's all well and fine. Are we not allowed to doubt though that we're hearing the full story?

The very fact that it is so implausible two young girls would carelessly put themselves in harm's way makes me wonder if there's something we're not being told... this doesn't mean they deserve to be attacked, just means they may not have been completely honest about what happened!

There's a huge difference between saying "I'm suspicious about this story" and "They dress slutty so why are they surprised?"

One is victim blaming and the other is questioning the story.

biko · 18-05-2015 02:54PM

If I was a girl and was attacked I wonder what would hurt more.
The actual beating, or the eejit comments afterwards.

acuriouscat · 18-05-2015 02:54PM

Sorry but I don't believe a word!
If u look at Amy's page her sister is recently commenting saying she's a big secret to share with Her to make her and Nicole famous.
Maybe I'm wrong but their hungry for fame and if it was my daughter is kick her ass for the carry on of her on facebook.disgusting provocative pictures! And it says on facebook Amy is engaged.whats she doing meeting men off a website ..doesn't add up ,and they can't find the men??? Surely they remember the apartment! Very odd

anvilfour · 18-05-2015 02:59PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Sadly it's probably not as implausible as you might think. It's why child predators spend so much time grooming children online. These girls, if it happened, were extremely stupid, but I believe it important to criticise them. Show others the ramifications of their actions. It's not victim blaming, but instead not coddling.

That's what I don't get. The girls are claiming they were beaten, not molested sexually....

Just Be Yourself · 18-05-2015 02:59PM

Why would you agree to meet with some random guy you've been chatting with on facebook? Stupid!

Ush1 · 18-05-2015 03:01PM

I presume the paper has some shred of journalistic integrity and has checked out the facts. I would find it very implausible that the injuries they are being treated for in hospital were self inflicted.

Sounds like a horrendous ordeal but I'd imagine fairly easy to track down the perpetrators.

Muahahaha · 18-05-2015 03:04PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Why are people so certain they're lying?

I'm wondering the same myself. We all did stupid things as teenagers so its not all that implausible.
The main concern here should be who beat the crap out of two young girls, not commentary on how they look or dress.

Buona Fortuna · 18-05-2015 03:07PM

DareGod wrote: »

Does that photo look staged and story sound fake to anybody else?

The story does read a little strange. Like why no descriptions of the men?

Also they claim they were being held but where does the hostage bit come in - hostage against what?

Usual Indo

Oryx · 18-05-2015 03:08PM

The minute i heard this story I thought it was suss. And if I thought it, like most here seem to, you can be sure those investigating thought so too. This will get checked out.

I dont know if its appropriate to speculate, but it would seem the girls had a reason to meet randomers like that. Escorts, party animals, or just naive, I dont know. But I dont think its victim blaming to say it was a very silly thing to do. Even in this website, warnings are given not to overshare or agree to meet strangers without ensuring your safety. Its not a gender or victim thing, its common sense.

Ush1 · 18-05-2015 03:10PM

Buona Fortuna wrote: »

The story does read a little strange. Like why no descriptions of the men?

Also they claim they were being held but where does the hostage bit come in - hostage against what?

Usual Indo

I agree, the lack of detail is concerning.

humanji · 18-05-2015 03:26PM

Ush1 wrote: »

I presume the paper has some shred of journalistic integrity and has checked out the facts.

It's the Independent. They even lie about their name.

Specialun · 18-05-2015 03:34PM

acuriouscat wrote: »

Sorry but I don't believe a word!
If u look at Amy's page her sister is recently commenting saying she's a big secret to share with Her to make her and Nicole famous.
Maybe I'm wrong but their hungry for fame and if it was my daughter is kick her ass for the carry on of her on facebook.disgusting provocative pictures! And it says on facebook Amy is engaged.whats she doing meeting men off a website ..doesn't add up ,and they can't find the men??? Surely they remember the apartment! Very odd

Stalky stalky

Lando Griffin · 18-05-2015 03:39PM

How many more girls will these men meet on Facebook, invite to their apartment and viciously assault before they slip up and get caught?

Mal-Adjusted · 18-05-2015 04:02PM

I imagine none, seeing as if what these girls are saying is true, it wouldn't be difficult to find them.

18-05-2015 04:02PM

Buona Fortuna wrote: »

The story does read a little strange. Like why no descriptions of the men?

Also they claim they were being held but where does the hostage bit come in - hostage against what?

Usual Indo

"The sisters said the men asked them to ring "someone with money to pay a ransom" which would set them free.
But when the sisters said they didn't have any money in their family, they were beaten further."

Kimbot · 18-05-2015 04:03PM

Look im sure more details will come out of the garda investigation and the girls if lying will be caught out. Regardless of their want for fame (Which most people their age crave now) they didnt deserve the injuries they have received.

Electric Sheep · 18-05-2015 04:16PM

The story in the Herald is more detailed:

http://www.herald.ie/news/sisters-beaten-in-20-hour-hostage-hell-31230525.html

I still think there is more to the story.

BigBrownBear · 18-05-2015 04:31PM

Sorry to see or hear anyone assaulted but it just doesn't add up for me. Just sounds to me sort of, well, concocted

Dionysius2 · 18-05-2015 04:42PM

As regards the why of the stupid actions engaged in by these two lassies, I'll say only this. There is not and never has been any rationale for the behaviour of teenagers when it comes to the pursuit of F R E E D O M !.
Monkeys swinging from branch to branch would make more intelligent decisions at times. But weren't we all young once ?

anvilfour · 18-05-2015 04:46PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

I'm wondering the same myself. We all did stupid things as teenagers so its not all that implausible.
The main concern here should be who beat the crap out of two young girls, not commentary on how they look or dress.

I for one don't care how the look or dress (though they seem very pretty), I just don't think they're telling the whole truth. Clearly they've been attacked, would be interested to find out more about this.

anvilfour · 18-05-2015 04:47PM

Mal-Adjusted wrote: »

I imagine none, seeing as if what these girls are saying is true, it wouldn't be difficult to find them.

Surprising no arrests have been made so far, as you say this would be fairly easy to track down!

walkingshadow · 18-05-2015 04:53PM

This whole thing sounds concocted.

Generic Dreadhead · 18-05-2015 05:22PM

They thought it was hilarious, they started ringing this woman and had her on loudspeaker and she kept saying ‘let me hear them scream’.
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“They thought she was dead and started ringing people on the phone and saying they needed to dig holes in the Wicklow mountains as they didn’t know what to do with these girls.”
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She said as she was not tied up she tried to untie her sister but the men, who were sleeping beside them, woke and the assaults started again.
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“They started lining us up against the wall and taking pictures and sending to friends what they had done to us. They were really proud of it.

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the evasion_kid · 18-05-2015 05:33PM

Cormac... wrote: »

WHAT

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That's what made me suspect of this story when I first read it.whatever about the two of the men being a pair of b!stards surely one of their friends would of had conscience enough to raise the alarm.

18-05-2015 05:35PM

Cormac... wrote: »

WHAT

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Didn't you hear? There's definitely more to this story than meets the eye.

Generic Dreadhead · 18-05-2015 05:37PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Didn't you hear? There's definitely more to this story than meets the eye.

If you're gonna lie, lie smaller and shorter I guess

cloud493 · 18-05-2015 05:42PM

Surely you don't meet anyone online like that. If you are gonna meet from online (no reason not to) public place, middle of the day, very visible. Common sense.

mikom · 18-05-2015 05:43PM

Cormac... wrote: »

If you're gonna lie, lie smaller and shorter I guess

Extended stories point to a lie.
I have noticed that a poor liar will adorn a lie with many others.

JONJO THE MISER · 18-05-2015 05:49PM

I swear young women today have not got a spark of sense.

silverfeather · 18-05-2015 05:52PM

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

I swear young women today have not got a spark of sense.

It's just me! :P :pac:

I don't know you very well Jonjo but I think you are as daft as a brush.:rolleyes:

Sisters beaten up, held hostage by two men they "met" on Facebook

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