Sisters beaten up, held hostage by two men they "met" on Facebook

Kermit.de.frog

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/sisters-tell-of-savage-attack-by-men-they-met-on-facebook-31230342.html

This looks to have been a particularly brutal and planned attack. Fair play to them for telling the story hopefully to avoid it happening to others.

I have a problem with the headline. You don't "meet" anyone on facebook. It's not like you are getting to know someone personally. It's dangerous to have that attitude. Maybe the language used around social media needs to start changing to get in to people's heads the risk of doing something like above.

DareGod

Does that photo look staged and story sound fake to anybody else?

It sounds bizarre. How does someone actually meet anyone on Facebook for the first time? There is a whole requirement that someone asks to be friends and that request is accepted or refused, you don't just fall into a conversation by chance and accept an invite to pop around no more than you would with any stranger. Certainly Facebook is not the issue here.

Plazaman

Should be an open and shut case if Facebook was used to initiate the meeting. Unless these guys had fake profiles but between that, the apartment details and phone traces, these guys should be easily caught. Lesson learned for these girls, who goes to meet a stranger in a private residence?

Jen Pigs Fly

I saw those two on the luas last Thursday! They got off at the red cow around 5.30.


Madness

haveringchick

DareGod wrote: »

Does that photo look staged and story sound fake to anybody else?

I don't believe a word of it.

mikom

DareGod wrote: »

Does that photo look staged and story sound fake to anybody else?

From the short video clip I am seeing rubbing of the ear lobe quickly followed by looking to the side.
I also hear the exact same words out of both mouths, like a worked out beforehand story.

I smell bullshit.

Mint Aero

Nah, something fishy.

SEPT 23 1989

Very strange story

Nice line about digging holes in the Wicklow mountains.

nelly17

Never ceases to amaze me the amount of public profiles on facebook.

Atlantic Dawn

I think there's a tad more to that story than meets the eye or in this case eyes

silverfeather

It just goes to show you.

xxxJennyxxx

xxxJennyxxx wrote: »

I saw those two on the luas last Thursday! They got off at the red cow around 5.30.


Madness

Find out which cop station is dealing with the case, ask the for the relevant gardai that is dealing with it, and tell them. It might be able to provide some insight.

Generic Dreadhead

They met the two men, aged 25 and 30, at a bus stop and arrived at the apartment in Newbridge town centre shortly after 7.30pm. Soon after, Amy said, one of the men, started "acting weird"...
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Amy said the last thing she remembered was her sister's lifeless body lying at the bottom of the stairs before she blacked out.
"I was so scared," said Amy, "I thought we were going to die, I was full sure they were going to kill us."
"They eventually let us go at about 3pm and said if we went to the guards they would kill us and our family."

So they passed out for the entire night?

If they went to an apartment I'm sure the guards can just call round there.

Sounds like a drug deal gone badly

frostyjacks

They've more black eyes than brain cells by the sound of things.

mikom

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Maybe the language used around social media needs to start changing to get in to people's heads the risk of doing something like above.

I'd start by not having picture the like of this public..........
[SNIP]

Unless of course you would like the attention of every weirdo with a hard on.

And the comments left up..........


Amy Rice massive sis xxx
28 February at 22:50 · 3
Charlene Hickey Massive babes model material xoxo
28 February at 22:52 · 4
Zed Ilsley Awesome, cute but sexy with it
2 March at 14:25 · 1
Zed Ilsley Do you model
2 March at 14:28 · 2
Nicole Rice awh no but thanks smile emoticon
2 March at 14:33
Zed Ilsley You should try for it,got the looks the body stance and decent posture
2 March at 14:47 · 2
Amy Rice wink emoticon xxx
2 March at 18:21 · 2
Gary Arnold Swiss swooo
5 March at 00:13 · 2
Michael Geoghegan Very nice
8 March at 16:12 · 2
Ramon Enrique Herran Arredondo MmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmSee Translation
10 March at 23:32 · 2
Dan Man mmmmmmmmmmmmmm hot
11 March at 00:49 · 1
Mark Dunne Nice tits
19 March at 00:54
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19 March at 22:08
Anthony Kulik Very kinky lol
21 March at 11:41 · 1
Anto Kinsella Very nice x
22 March at 01:02 · 1
James Odriscoll very nic
26 March at 01:35 · 1
John Cork Your bringing sexy back.
26 March at 02:46 · 1
Anthony Kulik She looks like she is on her honeymoon and is getting ready to get her cherry popped
26 March at 02:53 · 1
Anthony Kulik Aww thanks Alan I didn't know u cared lol
26 March at 03:05 · 1
Anthony Kulik Just ****in with ya
26 March at 03:05 · 1
Phillip Mcclendon Dame how sexy
26 March at 03:25 · 1
Aamirbutt Butt sexy pussy
26 March at 04:29
Raymond Cervantez
26 March at 04:31
Greg Craig
26 March at 05:37 · 1
Paudy Byrne Switt Swoo
26 March at 08:10 · 1
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26 March at 09:55 · 1
Sheamus O Neill Wow looking unreal
26 March at 10:54 · 1
Dotty Butcher Boy Brady ****ing gang of creeps
26 March at 12:34
Phillip Mcclendon How beautiful and sexy
26 March at 13:52 · 1
Patrick Byrne Gorgeous pretty and lucky bod too
26 March at 18:33 · 1
Anthony Kulik Yes it is because she's half naked and all u guys wanna bang her lol
26 March at 18:43 · 1
Ryan Lynn id like too pull those thong off you
27 March at 18:52 · 1
Jimmy Byrne Get up terr u little rocket
31 March at 21:09 · 1
Paul Yates Alan Yates U look naughty
6 April at 20:29 · 1
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24 April at 06:53 · 1
Michael Pidgeon WOW ONLY ONE WORD NICKI STUNNING WOW TAT SLIP UR WEARING HAS ME HOT GORGEOUS REPLY? .MICHAEL
6 May at 00:07
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7 May at 10:47
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8 May at 03:44
Jay Lee Shes just rite up my street xxx

Gatling

mikom wrote: »

I'd start by not having picture the like of this public..........
[SNIP]

Unless of course you would like the attention of every weirdo with a hard on.

Ahhh good old victim blaming

yes there

Who on earth meets on facebook anymore. Think they were drugged, bruises in just one area, plain stupidity, wicklow mountains. Like an even worse version of hollyoaks.

Jude13

Nope Gatling, just not falling for what is spoon feed. ironically the independent slogan was 'before you make up your mind, open it'.

mikom

Gatling wrote: »

Ahhh good old victim blaming

Not that at all.
Common sense.

walkingshadow

If you go out dressed as Halloween, ghouls will try to get in your underpants.

yes there

Gatling wrote: »

Ahhh good old victim blaming

Well the victim did put herself in that situation so yeah the victim must take some responsibilty. Idiotic to say otherwise

mikom

mikom wrote: »

Not that at all.
Common sense.

Commenting on someone not looking both ways before getting run over is victim-blaming now.

Jude13

Deleted User wrote: »

Commenting on someone not looking both ways before getting run over is victim-blaming now.

Congrats, you've managed to move the goalposts on page two with your whataboutery.

Smidge

A lot of those guys who posted on that picture of her are here in Ireland and their faces and locations can be seen!
Some amount of desperado's out there.

That Facebook linked posted is all kinds of messed up.

She's dressed like an eejit and all the guys are basically just walking cocks.

kingtut

I feel genuinely bad for them however why on earth would you meet someone through facebook and then go to their apartment?? That is just crazy!

Whatever happened to meeting in a public place first ?!

Hope the men involved are caught! If they met them through facebook surely they can pass on their names and a copy of all of the facebook messages?

kingtut

kingtut wrote: »

If they met them through facebook surely they can pass on their names and a copy of all of the facebook messages?

If they went to an apartment surely they can tell the Gardai where?

bjork

facebook, not even once

kingtut

Deleted User wrote: »

If they went to an apartment surely they can tell the Gardai where?

Good point, definitely more to the story than meets the eye!

silverfeather

kingtut wrote: »

Good point, definitely more to the story than meets the eye!

Hey ...how did you get so funky???

humanji

MOD: Folks, the girls didn't agree to meet some people to get the sh*te kicked out of them and their lives threatened, so there's little reason to point the finger at them. By blaming the victims you're making excuses for the culprits.

And for the love of god, don't post links to people's Facebook pages.

wakka12

What the hell? I don't believe it. Were the two sisters sharing a profile and the two lads also sharing one like? And do many sisters go on double dates together...? Why did they accept a random stranger, why would random lads add random strangers and start chatting them. Like I'm sure they'd plenty of other girls they know in their friends lists. Then they randomly beat them up for no apparent reason.

This whole story sounds like BS from start to finish

Specialun

Was it tinder maybe and not facebook??

Ive no used tinder but is that not through facebook

bucketybuck

When the real story about what happened comes out then maybe I'll give a toss.

Help!!!!

Call me cynical but wouldn't be surprised if they did this to themselves to get a bit of fame
With all the posing on their FB pages they seem to want to be models
If they were indeed beaten then hopefully the guards catch who did it
Hopefully it wont be 2 innocent lads getting their names dragged through the mud only for the girls to admit lying 6 months down the line

Dr. Mantis Toboggan

They look like two Guantanamo prisoners in their orange boiler suits.

The folly of youth.

wakka12

Specialun wrote: »

Was it tinder maybe and not facebook??

Ive no used tinder but is that not through facebook

Nah, tinder just pulls info from your fb profile such as name age photos and friends list, but its a complete y separate app to Facebook

anvilfour

Plazaman wrote: »

Should be an open and shut case if Facebook was used to initiate the meeting. Unless these guys had fake profiles but between that, the apartment details and phone traces, these guys should be easily caught. Lesson learned for these girls, who goes to meet a stranger in a private residence?

You're right, shouldn't be too difficult to trace the IP address of the account used, even if it's in fake name. I doubt very much these men were smart enough to use a VPN or similar!

Cee-Jay-Cee

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It sounds bizarre. How does someone actually meet anyone on Facebook for the first time? There is a whole requirement that someone asks to be friends and that request is accepted or refused, you don't just fall into a conversation by chance and accept an invite to pop around no more than you would with any stranger. Certainly Facebook is not the issue here.

Two strangers could be members of the same group and therefore able to message and contact each other without having ever heard of the other person.

burkey2k0

anvilfour wrote: »

You're right, shouldn't be too difficult to trace the IP address of the account used, even if it's in fake name. I doubt very much these men were smart enough to use a VPN or similar!

I doubt very much that these men exist at all.

Not a chance in hell the story they're telling is true.

nelly17

wakka12 wrote: »

What the hell? I don't believe it. Were the two sisters sharing a profile and the two lads also sharing one like? And do many sisters go on double dates together...? Why did they accept a random stranger, why would random lads add random strangers and start chatting them. Like I'm sure they'd plenty of other girls they know in their friends lists. Then they randomly beat them up for no apparent reason.

This whole story sounds like BS from start to finish

It does seem to all fit together a bit too easy and have made the perfect storm.
I'm sure they could quite easily point the apartment out to the Guards. Phonecalls were made if the cops know the apartment and the timeframe they would be able to get the masts in the imediate vacintiy of the apartemnt yada yada.

mikom

I expect a white van, Asian men, swan feathers and eastern European accents to be thrown into the mix shortly.

Why are people so certain they're lying?

Jen Pigs Fly

Deleted User wrote: »

Find out which cop station is dealing with the case, ask the for the relevant gardai that is dealing with it, and tell them. It might be able to provide some insight.

I will, I'll find out where is dealing with it

Dravokivich

It's a shame that this happened and I feel sorry for them. But it's a case of naive girls acting naively. Nothing to do with Facebook. It could have just as easily been two guys in a niteclub.

kingtut

This might be the person responsible?

http://facebook.com/profile.php?=73322363.

Kimbot

xxxJennyxxx wrote: »

I will, I'll find out where is dealing with it

Newbridge or Tallaght garda station. Ring newbridge and they might be able to point you in the direction easier.

Dravokivich

kingtut wrote: »

This might be the person responsible?

http://facebook.com/profile.php?=73322363.

Looks familiar.

wakka12

kingtut wrote: »

This might be the person responsible?

http://facebook.com/profile.php?=73322363.

gave me the fright of my life hahaha