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  • #8372
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Used 20 last yr on everything v little mould. Dad wants to stick to 16 this yr but think it's harder for crows to puncture them at 20.

    Going to see how much of a discount we can get if we buy a pallet of wrap this yr.

    What is plastic costing you?
    80e we were quoted
    :eek:

    Heard a contractor saying he is being charged E92 a roll this year and even with that there may not be enough wrap around this year with some manufacturers closing lines.


  • #8373
    keep going
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    RightTurnClyde wrote: »
    Keep thinking 2014 not 2012. That said, could really do with some heat now. 11 acres of silage ground gone into a the bulk tank. Those 11 acres would have left me very comfortable with silage, now I'll be a bit tighter, but it's early days yet. They've bought me a bit of time. Ground is still holding up, cows still bulling strong and still knocking out the litres but things would want to improve soon. At least now we can feed on for this weather and not be worrying about SL at the end of the year. Keep thinking positive.

    Your not alone found out today alot of guys are doing it around here including myself


  • #8374
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Anyone buy eprinex ir eprizero yet?
    Got milk disease test back few weeks ago and low positive came back for worms.
    Have taken dung samples of first calvers and few older cows this morning.
    anyone do whole herd or just first and second calvers?


  • #8375
    Blackgrass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Blackgrass


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Yes. I was doing a bit of digging and was surprised at the amount of nitrogen globules after the clover. Forty tons/ha of muck will be plenty to get a good crop of maize.
    Weather has been shyte here since the end of April. We got no rain whatsoever from March until two weeks ago. Then we got nearly 200mm. Silage has suffered but cereals look like a barnbuster.

    Keep septoria out decent flowering will be big yeild year


  • #8376
    oxjkqg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭oxjkqg


    Buford T. Justice V wrote: »
    :eek:

    Heard a contractor saying he is being charged E92 a roll this year and even with that there may not be enough wrap around this year with some manufacturers closing lines.

    The earlier plastic will be 75 to 80 but as the summer moves on it will rise a tener ish i would say. Plastic is a kartel anyway, a bit like fert.

    The only way it makes sense to do all bales is to do them yourself and if u are staggering silage cutting, if its all coming in together just pit it.


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  • #8377
    hurling_lad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭hurling_lad


    Anyone else waiting on Glanbia quality results? Haven't got constituents figures since 28/04 collection here.


  • #8378
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,792 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    hurling_lad wrote: »
    Anyone else waiting on Glanbia quality results? Haven't got constituents figures since 28/04 collection here.
    got them nearly every day last week, we where being collected everyday, there was a thermo for one day also. No harm to give them a ring


  • #8379
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Another batch weaned. Won't be out till next week I'd say weather to ****


  • #8380
    Timmaay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Did someone here makeup their own teat dip spraying system? On a gravity feed maybe? Any photos of it? What sort of hight did you need to get enough pressure?


  • #8381
    freedominacup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Blackgrass wrote: »
    Keep septoria out decent flowering will be big yeild year

    Must be a completely different set of challenges for dawg this year with the wet and relatively cold weather he's had for the past few weeks. I'd imagine disease pressure much higher than normal.


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  • #8382
    Blackgrass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Blackgrass


    freedominacup wrote: »
    Must be a completely different set of challenges for dawg this year with the wet and relatively cold weather he's had for the past few weeks. I'd imagine disease pressure much higher than normal.
    Week of drying hot weather will kick it's arse, problem guys have around here is backward lower/shorter crops with leaves rubbing in wind spreading leasions to new leaves as they emerge nothing you can do there


  • #8383
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Blackgrass wrote: »
    Week of drying hot weather will kick it's arse, problem guys have around here is backward lower/shorter crops with leaves rubbing in wind spreading leasions to new leaves as they emerge nothing you can do there

    Bang on Blackgrass! Crops are very clean because there was no disease pressure whatsoever until the last fortnight. Wheat is almost finished earing out and I will use a half rate methconazole to finish.
    28degrees today and to be 30 until Friday when we might get 10mm rain. Rain always welcome here between April and September.


  • #8384
    keep going
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Did someone here makeup their own teat dip spraying system? On a gravity feed maybe? Any photos of it? What sort of hight did you need to get enough pressure?

    Yeah I have the barrel roughly10 to 12 feet above cow standings and I have an ambic sprayer on the end.i drilled a hole in the white cap and pushed probaly a 5 ml clear line through it with about 2 feet in the barrel, screw it back on and put the barrel on its side with the pipe cork at the top so it cant leak.a small suck to get it going and away you go.wouldnt have a big spray but its effective enough and definitely beats filling those cans


  • #8385
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Nice day for it.
    26 degrees and dry for a change.

    No conditioner?


  • #8386
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Knocked and tedded 20 acres of paddocks today. Said phuck it need to get grass off and growing again or we'll get too tight in 2 weeks.

    Bone dry will tedd in am, really only trying to beat the N out of it before baling. Baling tomorrow pm will go to dry cow stack if shyte


  • #8387
    orm0nd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,325 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Knocked and tedded 20 acres of paddocks today. Said phuck it need to get grass off and growing again or we'll get too tight in 2 weeks.

    Bone dry will tedd in am, really only trying to beat the N out of it before baling. Baling tomorrow pm will go to dry cow stack if shyte


    think wednesday is promised good too, most likely will be in as good a nick to morrow pm,


  • #8388
    Dawggone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    No conditioner?

    We don't use conditioner mowers on the Crimson clover or the Lucerne because it flails off all the leaves. The leaves are where the protein is at.
    Just finished raking 6ha of strong paddocks for wrapping tomorrow afternoon. Excellent quality.


  • #8389
    Timmaay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    BF back up to 4.24 last collection ha. Maybe my feed rep was right after all, not much point using any additives in the nuts if it stays that way. Protein 3.47 also. About 10% stale cows helping them solids BTW ha.


  • #8390
    RightTurnClyde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭RightTurnClyde


    Timmaay wrote: »
    BF back up to 4.24 last collection ha. Maybe my feed rep was right after all, not much point using any additives in the nuts if it stays that way. Protein 3.47 also. About 10% stale cows helping them solids BTW ha.

    Why, what did your feed rep say


  • #8391
    Timmaay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    RightTurnClyde wrote: »
    Why, what did your feed rep say

    Didnt have much faith in megafat or any of them BF boosters.


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  • #8392
    stanflt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,808 ✭✭✭stanflt


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Used 20 last yr on everything v little mould. Dad wants to stick to 16 this yr but think it's harder for crows to puncture them at 20.

    Going to see how much of a discount we can get if we buy a pallet of wrap this yr.

    What is plastic costing you?
    80e we were quoted



    Quoted 74 from Glanbia with even haggling

    Pink stuff is 81 from dairy gold


  • #8393
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Timmaay wrote: »
    BF back up to 4.24 last collection ha. Maybe my feed rep was right after all, not much point using any additives in the nuts if it stays that way. Protein 3.47 also. About 10% stale cows helping them solids BTW ha.

    Solids are good tbf Tim but as you've said stale cows as well as autumn calvers are helping.fat here has dropped to 3.75 and p up ton3.52 on yesterday's collection.yield dropped a bit over weekend due to weather to 30.5 Ltrs but back up to 31.4 today.considering I'm all spring milk I'm very happy with that and that megafat added to nut is having a positive effect .if it wasn't in I'd be my fat would be sub 3.5 and grass flowing through cows.


  • #8394
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Didnt have much faith in megafat or any of them BF boosters.

    Maby he was too lazy to do a bit of research....nutritionist in roches feeds very helpful and progressive without been a pushy sales man.


  • #8395
    frazzledhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Maby he was too lazy to do a bit of research....nutritionist in roches feeds very helpful and progressive without been a pushy sales man.

    Just uses a different approach. They are all the same, close sales


  • #8396
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    stanflt wrote: »
    Quoted 74 from Glanbia with even haggling

    Pink stuff is 81 from dairy gold

    Trying to buy a pallet of coop source wrap from my local Arrabawn branch and 82 a roll is best price,know a lad that was pricing 2 pallets and quoted same,I thought I might get it for 80 but no way,may give dairygold a ring,they love calls from Arrabawn suppliers!!!!


  • #8397
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Just uses a different approach. They are all the same, close sales

    Maby a different approach but different herds have different needs.rep from local mill here scouting for business here had nothing only add straw,add silage,leave your grass grow stronger.


  • #8398
    Brown Podzol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Brown Podzol


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Solids are good tbf Tim but as you've said stale cows as well as autumn calvers are helping.fat here has dropped to 3.75 and p up ton3.52 on yesterday's collection.yield dropped a bit over weekend due to weather to 30.5 Ltrs but back up to 31.4 today.considering I'm all spring milk I'm very happy with that and that megafat added to nut is having a positive effect .if it wasn't in I'd be my fat would be sub 3.5 and grass flowing through cows.

    Don't know about fat being sub 3.5 without the megafat. All spring here, fat 3.8, p 3.54, yield 33lts 4kg meal with acid buff.


  • #8399
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Brown Podzol wrote: »
    Don't know about fat being sub 3.5 without the megafat. All spring here, fat 3.8, p 3.54, yield 33lts 4kg meal with acid buff.

    Going on other years figures brown I have been as low as 3.38 fat.used acid buff last year but through April,may fat struggled to stay over 3.6


  • #8400
    cjpm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,615 ✭✭✭cjpm


    Help a brother out!! ;)

    Went grass measuring this evening, however not sure what % dry matter to assume.

    Grass was dry when weighing, and it hasn't rained in 24 hours.

    Thanks in advance!


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  • #8401
    orm0nd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,325 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Didnt have much faith in megafat or any of them BF boosters.


    got same response here, sales rep spent a good while adding up and phoned the nutritionist at the mill , with my yields and figures

    anyhow came back to me with the response , your'e getting 2.6kgs solids per day, spending €20 per ton extra on meal is most likely not going to put any extra money in your pocket

    it seems I agree with Teagasc for once :rolleyes:
    http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/my-milk-fat-has-dropped-in-the-last-two-weeks-should-i-be-worried/


    @ M_J , DG are €77 per roll for wrap don't know the brand , arrabawn rep was telling a neighbour he is inundated with inquiries since last Thur hasn't sold 1 roll though


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