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jaymla627 · 10-05-2015 09:21AM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Yep sure do and quality stuff at that but neither as good as grass at this stage.will hit solids and production as well as having an effect on breeding season

Went in with 4kg of silage Fri and Sat and upped nuts by 2 kg cows went up two litres and protein stayed at 3.5 with bf staying the same, switched over to a high maize 18 % nut from 14% and the cows are really kicking on even in this weather.....
solids and yield shouldn't really take to much of a hit once you can keep 8-9 kg of nice leafy grass in their diet

Timmaay · 10-05-2015 10:02AM

Yeilds holding at 26l but solids back up, p 3.50 bf 4.2. Cows on a 12%nut, 2kg dry days 3 to 4kg wet days. Clean-outs not great at all, will have to either cut for silage or pre mow next rotation, but will worry about that then, just avoiding too much damage the aim for now. Bulling heifers destroying any paddocks they go into tho

trixi2011 · 10-05-2015 11:47AM

Same across the water heavy rain for the last week now , grass utilisation is really **** but cows holding well at 24l at 4.35 fat and 3.87 protein and cows are still bulling strong. Only problem now is we are running out of dry ground . Heifers were causing problems during the week along wires so haven't been break fencing them for the last few days clean out isn't the best but not damaging

stanflt · 10-05-2015 11:55AM

Timmaay wrote: »

Yeilds holding at 26l but solids back up, p 3.50 bf 4.2. Cows on a 12%nut, 2kg dry days 3 to 4kg wet days. Clean-outs not great at all, will have to either cut for silage or pre mow next rotation, but will worry about that then, just avoiding too much damage the aim for now. Bulling heifers destroying any paddocks they go into tho

I've my bulling heifers housed- never let them out as I wanted to serve indoors as out farm 15 k away- glad now- they'll be going out later this week with bull

Cows holding up really well still at 34.5 litres but paddocks not so good- luckily I've them in wet paddocks the last couple of days that I have earmarked for reseeding- the insurance I have is that I've 40 acres coming into milking block on 1 July

Lads don't panic we can't control the weather but just do the best we can- chin up and sail on

Be positive

mahoney_j · 10-05-2015 12:12PM

stanflt wrote: »

I've my bulling heifers housed- never let them out as I wanted to serve indoors as out farm 15 k away- glad now- they'll be going out later this week with bull

Cows holding up really well still at 34.5 litres but paddocks not so good- luckily I've them in wet paddocks the last couple of days that I have earmarked for reseeding- the insurance I have is that I've 40 acres coming into milking block on 1 July

Lads don't panic we can't control the weather but just do the best we can- chin up and sail on

Be positive

Yep well said,weather is frustrating though.arecu putting in much of a buffer??,started putting 3 kg wholecrop back in on Friday and will continue for another few days weather permitting .meal innparlour averaging 5.8!kg,12 hour blocks with back fence in wet spells .sr 4.4,cover per cow 152 growth since last monday 42.ok for now just about.clean out of paddocks ok but not satisfactory .hooefully weather picks up and can bale some of the worst of them next time round.first cow of year with mastitis this am too which I'm attributing to cows back through the sheds for last few days

stanflt · 10-05-2015 12:27PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Yep well said,weather is frustrating though.arecu putting in much of a buffer??,started putting 3 kg wholecrop back in on Friday and will continue for another few days weather permitting .meal innparlour averaging 5.8!kg,12 hour blocks with back fence in wet spells .sr 4.4,cover per cow 152 growth since last monday 42.ok for now just about.clean out of paddocks ok but not satisfactory .hooefully weather picks up and can bale some of the worst of them next time round.first cow of year with mastitis this am too which I'm attributing to cows back through the sheds for last few days

Buffering 4kg of dm of maize:/ straw

Clean outs are crap as cows are dirtying grass

6 cases of mastitis last Monday morning after the really bad Saturday- cleared in 1 day- probably stress induced

stanflt · 10-05-2015 12:29PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Yep well said,weather is frustrating though.arecu putting in much of a buffer??,started putting 3 kg wholecrop back in on Friday and will continue for another few days weather permitting .meal innparlour averaging 5.8!kg,12 hour blocks with back fence in wet spells .sr 4.4,cover per cow 152 growth since last monday 42.ok for now just about.clean out of paddocks ok but not satisfactory .hooefully weather picks up and can bale some of the worst of them next time round.first cow of year with mastitis this am too which I'm attributing to cows back through the sheds for last few days

Cows are full which is the main thing-

Dawggone · 10-05-2015 12:34PM

Back to work today.
We've had 187mm of rain in the last two weeks. Mowing 68ha of first and second cut today and it's pure shyte. Grass is on the verge of heading out and the clover is flowering. Some small ponds of water in the fields...

Greengrass1 · 10-05-2015 01:24PM

Only had one poor clean out so fat this last week. rest of the paddocks they've been on are very dry so can push them a but harder
yeild holding well 27.7l
Pr 3.7
bf 4.10
Scc 95
may try get out for a measure today

Dawggone · 10-05-2015 05:12PM

Nice day for it.
26 degrees and dry for a change.

Count Mondego · 10-05-2015 06:02PM

Dawggone wrote: »

Nice day for it.
26 degrees and dry for a change.

Was that before or after mass?

Dawggone · 10-05-2015 06:13PM

Count Mondego wrote: »

Was that before or after mass?

Agnostic here.

trixi2011 · 10-05-2015 06:16PM

Dawggone wrote: »

Nice day for it.
26 degrees and dry for a change.

Look like a savage day for it ,will you leave it down for long

Dawggone · 10-05-2015 06:25PM

trixi2011 wrote: »

Look like a savage day for it ,will you leave it down for long

Will leave it be until Tuesday afternoon.
Then rake into 20 or 30foot swarths. Chop it on Wednesday.
Can't ted as would lose the leaves from the clover. No matter, the forecast is for 28 degrees for next few days.
Quality is gone from it now as clover is flowering and ryegrass about to head.
Be lucky to hit 12/13% protein.

trixi2011 · 10-05-2015 06:35PM

Dawggone wrote: »

Will leave it be until Tuesday afternoon.
Then rake into 20 or 30foot swarths. Chop it on Wednesday.
Can't ted as would lose the leaves from the clover. No matter, the forecast is for 28 degrees for next few days.
Quality is gone from it now as clover is flowering and ryegrass about to head.
Be lucky to hit 12/13% protein.

At least it's going to be dry , will you get another cut off this before it gets to dry

Dawggone · 10-05-2015 06:37PM

trixi2011 wrote: »

At least it's going to be dry , will you get another cut off this before it gets to dry

No, quick turnaround into maize and 120 days later it will be pitted.

trixi2011 · 10-05-2015 07:10PM

Dawggone wrote: »

No, quick turnaround into maize and 120 days later it will be pitted.

Does the clover fix Niro gen for the maize crop ? Your making me very jelous with your 28 degrees

Greengrass1 · 10-05-2015 07:20PM

Dawggone wrote: »

Nice day for it.
26 degrees and dry for a change.

I think mam and dad should have moved to France instead of wexford.
Jealous

Dawggone · 10-05-2015 07:24PM

trixi2011 wrote: »

Does the clover fix Niro gen for the maize crop ? Your making me very jelous with your 28 degrees

Yes. I was doing a bit of digging and was surprised at the amount of nitrogen globules after the clover. Forty tons/ha of muck will be plenty to get a good crop of maize.
Weather has been shyte here since the end of April. We got no rain whatsoever from March until two weeks ago. Then we got nearly 200mm. Silage has suffered but cereals look like a barnbuster.

Dawggone · 10-05-2015 07:30PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

I think mam and dad should have moved to France instead of wexford.
Jealous

You would be sorted if you could graze maize...then again so would I.

Nothing wrong with the sunny south east!

Greengrass1 · 10-05-2015 07:35PM

Dawggone wrote: »

You would be sorted if you could graze maize...then again so would I.
Nothing wrong with the sunny south east!

Be a learning curve. Very adaptable though.

Yeah when it stops raining. Have had paddocks to mow for last 2 weeks and can't get a chance to take them. Will take them when I mow hybrid in 10 days

Dawggone · 10-05-2015 07:42PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Be a learning curve. Very adaptable though.

Yeah when it stops raining. Have had paddocks to mow for last 2 weeks and can't get a chance to take them. Will take them when I mow hybrid in 10 days

Same as. I've taken out quite a few paddocks also. More being baled on Tuesday. Best advice I've gained on here is to take it out early rather than late. Mowed 11ha of paddocks Saturday and tedded today. Will be wrapped on Tuesday. This is the second round.
Cows back over 34litres.

Greengrass1 · 10-05-2015 07:56PM

Dawggone wrote: »

Same as. I've taken out quite a few paddocks also. More being baled on Tuesday. Best advice I've gained on here is to take it out early rather than late. Mowed 11ha of paddocks Saturday and tedded today. Will be wrapped on Tuesday. This is the second round.
Cows back over 34litres.

are you going to try this new pink silage wrap?

Dawggone · 10-05-2015 07:59PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

are you going to try this new pink silage wrap?

Lol.

Out of interest how many wraps of plastic do you use?
I'm on 24 for grass/clover mix.
32 for Lucerne and clover.

Greengrass1 · 10-05-2015 08:04PM

Dawggone wrote: »

Lol.
Out of interest how many wraps of plastic do you use?
I'm on 24 for grass/clover mix.
32 for Lucerne and clover.

Used 20 last yr on everything v little mould. Dad wants to stick to 16 this yr but think it's harder for crows to puncture them at 20.

Going to see how much of a discount we can get if we buy a pallet of wrap this yr.

What is plastic costing you?
80e we were quoted

Dawggone · 10-05-2015 08:06PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Used 20 last yr on everything v little mould. Dad wants to stick to 16 this yr but think it's harder for crows to puncture them at 20.

Going to see how much of a discount we can get if we buy a pallet of wrap this yr.

What is plastic costing you?
80e we were quoted

I don't pay for plastic.
€10/bale chopped with whatever amount of plastic I want.

Bullocks · 10-05-2015 08:12PM

Dawggone wrote: »

I don't pay for plastic.
€10/bale chopped with whatever amount of plastic I want.

How the feck is that ? Do they not charge for extra wraps or what ?

Greengrass1 · 10-05-2015 08:12PM

Dawggone wrote: »

I don't pay for plastic.
€10/bale chopped with whatever amount of plastic I want.

Will trudge on with bales here for all silage fir this and next yr any way. Hope to have ciws grazing all land around parlour in 2 yrs doubt we'll keep at it after that with it having to be drawn and the amount of it that we'll need to be making in baled will just be pure stupid

Dawggone · 10-05-2015 08:17PM

Bullocks wrote: »

How the feck is that ? Do they not charge for extra wraps or what ?

No. Flat rate.

Dawggone · 10-05-2015 08:19PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Will trudge on with bales here for all silage fir this and next yr any way. Hope to have ciws grazing all land around parlour in 2 yrs doubt we'll keep at it after that with it having to be drawn and the amount of it that we'll need to be making in baled will just be pure stupid

Unless, like you, you are doing bales yourself it's a very expensive was to conserve a bit of grass.

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