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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 425 ✭✭shroom007


    anncoates wrote: »
    Still not quite getting you there. boss.

    Is it that the lower classes don't produce footballers these days because of X Factor and heroin?

    Did you ever think of lecturing in sociology?

    really :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    anncoates wrote: »
    What I want to know is why are all these street urchins not translating into good international football teams like Brazil and Argentina.
    A lifetime to look forward to of social welfare payments, free accommodation and free health care like their fathers kinda kills off any ambition to "make it". The genuinely impoverished kids of the favelas have nothing, no safety net so maybe they want it more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭bjork


    A lifetime to look forward to of social welfare payments, free accommodation and free health care like their fathers kinda kills off any ambition to "make it". The genuinely impoverished kids of the favelas have nothing, no safety net so maybe they want it more.

    Should be banish them to a favela in the Wickow mountains? Here's how the dutch dealt with some of theirs.


    Almere is making plans to banish persistent troublemakers to special housing areas on the edge of the city,

    Read more at DutchNews.nl: Almere to banish troublemakers to city fringes as well http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2013/10/almere_to_banish_trouble_maker/


    A problem family from Amsterdam Noord has been evicted from its home and moved to a new dwelling, constructed out of containers on a piece of wasteland to the east of the city. More removals will take place in the coming years,

    Read more at DutchNews.nl: Amsterdam moves ‘neighbours from hell’ to container dwelling http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2013/09/amsterdam_moves_neighbours_fro/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 803 ✭✭✭jungleman


    It's embarrassing. We are marketed abroad as "the friendliest and most welcoming people in the world" which is a load of arse. Stories like these just make me embarrassed and angry that nothing is being done about anti-social behaviour in Dublin.

    O'Connell St - I don't think I have to say much about it. It's actually sad that Daniel O'Connell's name is attached to such a steaming kip of junkies.

    Westmoreland St - you actually wouldn't think that one of Dublin CC's largest Garda stations is a two minute walk away. It's just open drug dealing, drunkeness and begging every single day. As the street which connects south side and north side, it's just an embarrassment.

    Dame St - over the last few months "gay bashing" has made a comeback. Groups of young scumbags hanging around Dublin Castle and Crane Lane waiting for the clubs to finish so they can punch a few gays and feel good about themselves.

    It's the same story over and over again, every single year. There is a total lack of visible Garda presence in Dublin, day and night. The judicial system is a joke. Heaven forbid you label an import as being garlic, then the law suddenly applies to you above other people. A new prison facility is needed. I'd rather pay my taxes to make sure criminals actually get sentences and are off the streets than to be taxed three times over for water.

    We'll be on these threads saying the exact same thing in 10 years time because nothing will be done about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    A lifetime to look forward to of social welfare payments, free accommodation and free health care

    Now that you mention it, how could a life as a professional football live up to that life of opulence.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭LDN_Irish


    It's so bad that rumour has it Bear Grylls is coming over to do one of his survivor series in Dublin for the discovery channel.

    That one got leaked early. He got accosted by a gang who told him if he didn't drink his own piss they'd kick the **** out of him. Joke was on them though because he was thirsty anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    anncoates wrote: »
    Now that you mention it, how could a life as a professional football live up to that life of opulence.

    Ah well at least I'm offering suggestions rather than just taking the piss out of other posters


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 425 ✭✭shroom007


    anncoates wrote: »
    Now that you mention it, how could a life as a professional football live up to that life of opulence.

    are you missing your own point or that you asked a question offered no answer and now getting all blousy even though you offered nothing to disagree with :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Ah well at least I'm offering suggestions rather than just taking the piss out of other posters

    Not at all. The FAI should explore the angle that social welfare prevents us producing top class footballers. It could be a goer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    A lifetime to look forward to of social welfare payments, free accommodation and free health care like their fathers kinda kills off any ambition to "make it". The genuinely impoverished kids of the favelas have nothing, no safety net so maybe they want it more.

    How do you explain the rationale for robbing people then?

    If it was so rosy they wouldn't need to behave like this.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    catallus wrote: »
    How do you explain the rationale for robbing people then?

    If it was so rosy they wouldn't need to behave like this.

    Because they're lowlife bastards?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    ColeTrain wrote: »
    Because they're lowlife bastards?

    Well!

    That's not very enlightened :(

    I thought we were all equal?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 425 ✭✭shroom007


    this is turning into a yawn fest with the trolls bludgeoning the topic to death.
    you say something I say the opposite I ask a question you answer with a question
    Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 425 ✭✭shroom007


    anncoates wrote: »
    Not at all. The FAI should explore the angle that social welfare prevents us producing top class footballers. It could be a goer.


    and as it seems to irk you Im going to quote you
    but really I don't think the farmers association of ireland will ever produce any good footballers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    conorhal wrote: »
    I've begun to tell those friends from abroad to give Dublin a skip and head West or North when they visit. Stay a day or two in the capital if you must when flying in or flying out, wander around Trinity and knock up to Kildare street and have an amble around Grafton St and then leave.
    Dublin has become an embarrasment of a city, it's just another homogenized UK Highstreet with no Irish character to it anyway but with an increecing degree of menace, drunkenness and casual violence.

    sorry to burst your whole dublin is **** bubble

    the people of swords were horrified about this attack - the business community have looked after this couple - hotel refused to charge them , other place offered them them free meal etc...and the aerlingus golden lounge

    http://www.thejournal.ie/swords-attack-tourists-2092400-May2015/

    a gang of arseholes doesn't make dublin ****.

    Dublin is a great spot - i've lived here 25 years and decided not to move home when my parents did years ago , cos i liked it so much


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    I think these scumbags exist in Dublin as a sort of balancing act. You have the scumbags in suits that rob the state and then you have the scumbags in tracksuits that rob the scumbags in suits. I think it's heroin that robs the tracksuit wearing scumbags.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88 ✭✭No_Comply


    noway12345 wrote: »
    I think it's heroin that robs the tracksuit wearing scumbags.

    Hopefully of their worthless, pitiful lives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    bjork wrote: »
    Almere is making plans to banish persistent troublemakers to special housing areas on the edge of the city,
    So ghettos and shanty towns, why hasn't any thought of that before?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    bjork wrote: »
    Would you recommend more ineffective police, neighborhood vigilantist groups or something else?


    Scum! Scum! Scum!
    Out! Out! Out!

    Like they did with the pushers in the 80's?

    Why not, Ireland has been completely drug free since the 80's.:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭bjork


    ScumLord wrote: »
    So ghettos and shanty towns, why hasn't any thought of that before?

    They have, it's based on a Danish practice. Worked for the Dutch in the 19th century and the Danish....

    Skaeve Huse - Can't find an article in English about it

    Here's a video>>


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭LDN_Irish


    It doesn't seem to work that well in France. Here's a 6 minute documentary on it:



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭bjork


    LDN_Irish wrote: »
    It doesn't seem to work that we'll in France. Here's a 6 minute documentary on it:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QWaWsgBbFsA

    Well that doesn't look much different to what we have. What are the French doing differently to the Dutch and the Danish?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    jungleman wrote: »
    It's embarrassing. We are marketed abroad as "the friendliest and most welcoming people in the world" which is a load of arse. Stories like these just make me embarrassed and angry that nothing is being done about anti-social behaviour in Dublin.

    O'Connell St - I don't think I have to say much about it. It's actually sad that Daniel O'Connell's name is attached to such a steaming kip of junkies.

    Westmoreland St - you actually wouldn't think that one of Dublin CC's largest Garda stations is a two minute walk away. It's just open drug dealing, drunkeness and begging every single day. As the street which connects south side and north side, it's just an embarrassment.

    Dame St - over the last few months "gay bashing" has made a comeback. Groups of young scumbags hanging around Dublin Castle and Crane Lane waiting for the clubs to finish so they can punch a few gays and feel good about themselves.

    It's the same story over and over again, every single year. There is a total lack of visible Garda presence in Dublin, day and night. The judicial system is a joke. Heaven forbid you label an import as being garlic, then the law suddenly applies to you above other people. A new prison facility is needed. I'd rather pay my taxes to make sure criminals actually get sentences and are off the streets than to be taxed three times over for water.

    We'll be on these threads saying the exact same thing in 10 years time because nothing will be done about it.

    The solution is a directly elected mayor with some control over Dublins cops.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    They killed her and stole her pen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Hans Bricks


    jungleman wrote: »
    It's embarrassing. We are marketed abroad as "the friendliest and most welcoming people in the world" which is a load of arse. Stories like these just make me embarrassed and angry that nothing is being done about anti-social behaviour in Dublin.

    O'Connell St - I don't think I have to say much about it. It's actually sad that Daniel O'Connell's name is attached to such a steaming kip of junkies.

    Westmoreland St - you actually wouldn't think that one of Dublin CC's largest Garda stations is a two minute walk away. It's just open drug dealing, drunkeness and begging every single day. As the street which connects south side and north side, it's just an embarrassment.

    Dame St - over the last few months "gay bashing" has made a comeback. Groups of young scumbags hanging around Dublin Castle and Crane Lane waiting for the clubs to finish so they can punch a few gays and feel good about themselves.

    It's the same story over and over again, every single year. There is a total lack of visible Garda presence in Dublin, day and night. The judicial system is a joke. Heaven forbid you label an import as being garlic, then the law suddenly applies to you above other people. A new prison facility is needed. I'd rather pay my taxes to make sure criminals actually get sentences and are off the streets than to be taxed three times over for water.

    We'll be on these threads saying the exact same thing in 10 years time because nothing will be done about it.

    ... And the same indifferent saps will be here rolling their eyes at how "hysterical" everyone is getting over the low lives who continually add to the embarrassing state of the capital city's center.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    noway12345 wrote: »
    I think these scumbags exist in Dublin as a sort of balancing act. You have the scumbags in suits that rob the state and then you have the scumbags in tracksuits that rob the scumbags in suits. I think it's heroin that robs the tracksuit wearing scumbags.

    There's a few of us in the middle not really robbing anybody.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    ... And the same indifferent saps will be here rolling their eyes at how "hysterical" everyone is getting over the low lives who continually add to the embarrassing state of the capital city's center.

    I think the reaction here is because of the somewhat unfair criticism of Dublin as a kip. It's not. It does need better policing of course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    bjork wrote: »
    They have, it's based on a Danish practice. Worked for the Dutch in the 19th century and the Danish....
    Worked in what regard?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    A knife is pulled on a tourist after he is beaten up and robbed.
    Meanwhile Lorraine Higgins shites on about name calling on facebook.

    The best little country in the world to run feral in.........


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Hans Bricks


    There's a few of us in the middle not really robbing anybody.

    Don't mention "middle". You'll set it off on another rant about his hatred for the middle class of Ireland. Whatever that's supposed to be.
    I think the reaction here is because of the somewhat unfair criticism of Dublin as a kip. It's not. It does need better policing of course.

    There are a lot of kips in Dublin though and It's the likes of the monkeys in this story who make them so too.


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