Motors Chat - Round 8

YbFocus · 06-05-2015 09:24AM

Bpmull wrote: »

Well apparently there was 137,500 km on it after 2 years which to me just seems wrong and that it's more like 85k km but according to the sheet it is. It was the only reading for the car so nothing to prove it wrong or right. I'm going to get them to send me the history and see can I check for 85k km around and that time. Tbh I find it hard to believe there is upwards of 200k km on it.

That's it, I'd be done with this car.

Your trying to find reasons to buy it bp, grand if it wasn't clocked but it makes that car impossible to sell on in the future.
When you're selling it and someone does a history check and that flags, nobody will go near you.

Do the smart thing and cut the losses now.

job seeker · 06-05-2015 09:41AM

Old diesel wrote: »

It looks like a nice car for sure

Elephant 26000 put it up on the bangernomics thread - I said id fire it up for BP - gives him another option on a temporary basis.

Cut the ties with the other garage - and find something from somewhere else - but still have wheels.

Probably worth seeing whats out there in the Renault dealer network too

Sure that's just it. I'd say there is still plenty of life left in it too... Great car them.

Old diesel · 06-05-2015 09:58AM

Quick look on Carzone - selecting Renault and Megane - and 2010/2011 as the start and finish year - brings up

this http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/renault/megane/used-2011-renault-megane-1-5-dci-clare-fpa-162014308480098270?SOURCE_ID=SOURCE_ID_FPA_FROM_TARGETED_FEAT_DEAL

and 169 other Meganes.

No shortage of them

MuppetCheck · 06-05-2015 10:12AM

BP it might be a mile to km conversion which makes sense to you but it won't to the person you will need to sell it to unless you can get that record changed.

A Clifford alarm could mean it was used by someone who needed cargo or supplies secured like a medical rep or vet. Its an expensive enough system to be putting into a megane. Could also back up the higher mileage.

There are plenty of permutations you could get from the info you supplied, most say run away.

YbFocus · 06-05-2015 10:20AM

MuppetCheck wrote: »

BP it might be a mile to km conversion which makes sense to you but it won't to the person you will need to sell it to unless you can get that record changed.

A Clifford alarm could mean it was used by someone who needed cargo or supplies secured like a medical rep or vet. Its an expensive enough system to be putting into a megane. Could also back up the higher mileage.

There are plenty of permutations you could get from the info you supplied, most say run away.

Good thinking on the mileage and the alarm connection mc!
Bp honestly i reckon it will make it impossible to sell in the future having that mileage correction.

This and the crap service you've been given would have me long gone.

dgt · 06-05-2015 10:27AM

Holy f*ckballs... Lost keys, damaged after purchase, piss poor service getting it sorted and now clocked???

Youre being taken for a terrible ride and refuse to see it?

People have tried to f*ck me over and they almost always end up regretting it. Why keep defending them?

Theyre clearly trying to use their history to fob you off with this terrible package

And what else could go wrong? Why risk having it leaving you stranded, crying in the corner wondering why it went so wrong???

Do the right thing. Tell them you want your money back and shove the car up their arse. That is quite dreadful carry on in this day and age.

This sort of sh*te makes my blood boil

Bpmull · 06-05-2015 10:29AM

MuppetCheck wrote: »

BP it might be a mile to km conversion which makes sense to you but it won't to the person you will need to sell it to unless you can get that record changed.

A Clifford alarm could mean it was used by someone who needed cargo or supplies secured like a medical rep or vet. Its an expensive enough system to be putting into a megane. Could also back up the higher mileage.

There are plenty of permutations you could get from the info you supplied, most say run away.

Look I'm going to the garage today to talk it out and see what the story is. They either have the history or they don't. The point about it is always been that the body work has a few marks on it and the fact they know me they were selling it on to me right.

The next issue is that I like the meganes now like them to drive. The new engine came out in 2011 and it is more powerful and nicer to drive. So that means that basically if I don't buy this one I'll be back looking at 2008 petrol golfs etc because there is simply nothing much newer than that within budget and tbh I think this car will get a good bit of going over the next year so petrol could be a bad move. I mean sure I could put another 3 grand on to the budget and buy one like that was linked above but you have to draw a line somewhere the budgey can't just keep growing forever.

Bpmull · 06-05-2015 10:50AM

Is a fluence definitely a no go. Not sure if I could deal with the slagging and let's face it the megane is a bit softer on the eye.

Anyway I'm heading over at 2 o clock and they need to have some answers as this sticking their heads in the sand and hopeing everything will work out is not working.

Foxhole Norman · 06-05-2015 11:02AM

Bpmull wrote: »

Is a fluence definitely a no go. Not sure if I could deal with the slagging and let's face it the megane is a bit softer on the eye.

Anyway I'm heading over at 2 o clock and they need to have some answers as this sticking their heads in the sand and hopeing everything will work out is not working.

Fluence is pretty much the exact same car. You'd want to go for a higher spec for better sound deadening though.

Bpmull · 06-05-2015 11:03AM

Foxhole Norman wrote: »

Fluence is pretty much the exact same car. You'd want to go for a higher spec for better sound deadening though.

Is dynamique high enough spec for the extra sound deadening.

Foxhole Norman · 06-05-2015 11:07AM

Bpmull wrote: »

Is dynamique high enough spec for the extra sound deadening.

Yeah it might be the same as the TomTom version, not 100% though, you'd need to test it.

166man · 06-05-2015 11:08AM

A fluence...?

Jesus I'd have kept the Golf...:(

Old diesel · 06-05-2015 11:10AM

A 2008 petrol 1.4 tsi Golf sounds like it might be better then this messing around.

Whats the budget?????

Bpmull · 06-05-2015 11:19AM

166man wrote: »

A fluence...?

Jesus I'd have kept the Golf...:(

Because infairness and the day I sold the golf I predicted all this happening. As far as I was concerned you go to a garage look at a car pay them and they give you said car. It's amazing how complicated it's gotten from that scenario.

Old diesel wrote: »

A 2008 petrol 1.4 tsi Golf sounds like it might be better then this messing around.

Whats the budget?????

Tbh between superchargers and timming chains giving trouble they might not be the best buy. Plus I can only get insured on the 122 bhp version which were almost non existent.

Ah if this car falls through I think I'll drop the budget way back because I'm just sick of all this sh!t and can't take a while lot more of it at this stage.

I'm worried about completely loosing it with them in this garage and just going ape sh!t over the whole thing.

Foxhole Norman · 06-05-2015 11:23AM

This is why I prefer private sales to be honest. Go to buyer, give cash, get car, profit.

Old diesel · 06-05-2015 11:32AM

Foxhole Norman wrote: »

This is why I prefer private sales to be honest. Go to buyer, give cash, get car, profit.

It can work out with dealers too

Fathers Tiida

He wanted a Tiida - has a chat with his preferred garage on a Monday morning- garage owner is literally on his way to look at two Tiidas to potentially buy in for stock. Dealer buys them - drives back in one of them - calls to my Dad in it - my Dad buys it there and then - my Dad had the car in his hands on Thursday.

(I hate the thing - but that's hardly the garages fault - its - its a Tiida thing)

The thing is - the nonsense BP is having to deal with shouldn't be the norm at a GOOD dealer.

He is/was - buying a car that's at an age where a high proportion of them are at garages.

GvidoR · 06-05-2015 11:40AM

Foxhole Norman wrote: »

This is why I prefer private sales to be honest. Go to buyer, give cash, get car, profit.

Why would you give cash to a buyer? :eek: :pac:

Stheno · 06-05-2015 11:44AM

Bpmull wrote: »

Is a fluence definitely a no go. Not sure if I could deal with the slagging and let's face it the megane is a bit softer on the eye.

.

Nooo Not a flatulence!

Stheno · 06-05-2015 11:49AM

How'd you find out the new car us clocked?

Bpmull · 06-05-2015 11:54AM

Stheno wrote: »

How'd you find out the new car us clocked?

It's not definitely clocked but I done a check and it was showing 137500 km at 2 years old there is 117k km on it now. However if it was 85,000k km entered as miles that would add up too as let's just say the garage didn't take it in on a trade in today or yesterday they have a lot of cars and never got a chance to prep it or advertise it till recently so it's been there a few months mainly because it was never cleaned or anything to attract people to it anyway that part doesn't bother me.

I think at this stage the only logical thing to do is buy a sandero or duster and that way I can go on all the dacia threads and b!tch about how bad it is :pac:

Old diesel · 06-05-2015 12:08PM

Bpmull wrote: »

It's not definitely clocked but I done a check and it was showing 137500 km at 2 years old there is 117k km on it now. However if it was 85,000k km entered as miles that would add up too as let's just say the garage didn't take it in on a trade in today or yesterday they have a lot of cars and never got a chance to prep it or advertise it till recently so it's been there a few months mainly because it was never cleaned or anything to attract people to it anyway that part doesn't bother me.

I think at this stage the only logical thing to do is buy a sandero or duster and that way I can go on all the dacia threads and b!tch about how bad it is :pac:

Being realistic - the way to approach this - is simple - the check is showing 137,000 kms at two years old.

Unless the garage shows good evidence to the contrary - then you have to assume its clocked.

Its possible for the record to be wrong - as you say - 85,000 miles is equal to 137,000 kms.

However its also certainly very possible for a car to clock up 85,000 miles in 2 years.

Its for the dealer to show you proof/evidence the record is incorrect - and imo - if the record is wrong - its for the dealer to take that up with the company supplying the data checks.

What im saying - its not for you to prove the record was right - but its for the dealer to demonstrate the record was incorrect.

Noccy_Mondy · 06-05-2015 12:38PM

Foxhole Norman wrote:

This is why I prefer private sales to be honest. Go to buyer, give cash, get car, profit.

I honestly don't think I'd ever buy private tbh. Have had, and heard of things going bad with private sales, so just turned me off. Any of the dealers I've dealt with were spot on, genuine fellas. Ye probably think I was daft buying the focus off a dealer, but I got a 6 month warranty with it, and it didn't cost much (if anything) more than if I bought private.

Just a case of hard luck in bp's case, you wouldn't be surprised if you got that sort of treatment from a dodgy fella on the side of the street, but from a main dealer, it's quite shocking.

YbFocus · 06-05-2015 12:50PM

Noccy_Mondy wrote: »

I honestly don't think I'd ever buy private tbh. Have had, and heard of things going bad with private sales, so just turned me off. Any of the dealers I've dealt with were spot on, genuine fellas. Ye probably think I was daft buying the focus off a dealer, but I got a 6 month warranty with it, and it didn't cost much (if anything) more than if I bought private.

I am the total opposite noccy, i always bought private.
The money saved for example on that e60 3 years ago was about 4k.

That in turn becomes a warranty that doesn't run out. It also is a sum that should never be needed when you look at everyone of them for sale in the country and pick the best.

Any warranty that you can get will always be out within 6 months or so and then the dealer extras are gone after that extra money outlay.

Not worth it to me, i can do my own work up to a decent level so that helps too i suppose.

Bpmull · 06-05-2015 02:08PM

All sorted garage gave me service history and guess what on the same date it was serviced with them at 85k km not miles. I didn't tell him what was on the report or that I was coming so they had no way of knowing.

I looked at it again looked underneath I'm getting a great deal the car is 100 percent. It's been wheeled up on casters to the body shop today to get body work and sill repaired and the damage is not even as bad as I thought.

They are keys for it and I'll have it end of next week. They are taxing the loaner I have today too so I don't get stopped. So overall I'm happy out as they are making a lot more of an effort than I thought they were.

Big Nasty · 06-05-2015 02:19PM

So it was all in your head dude?

Interslice · 06-05-2015 02:26PM

Bpmull wrote: »

All sorted garage gave me service history and guess what on the same date it was serviced with them at 85k km not miles. I didn't tell him what was on the report or that I was coming so they had no way of knowing.

I looked at it again looked underneath I'm getting a great deal the car is 100 percent. It's been wheeled up on casters to the body shop today to get body work and sill repaired and the damage is not even as bad as I thought.

They are keys for it and I'll have it end of next week. They are taxing the loaner I have today too so I don't get stopped. So overall I'm happy out as they are making a lot more of an effort than I thought they were.

Hope it all works out for you BP. Just sit back, relax and drive the loaner for a couple of weeks. Be grand

. Been losely following this and I think your making the right call sitting it out. If you've driven the car and it felt really good stick with it. I reckon they just gave your car to the the one gob****e working there. Wouldn't be calling shenanigans or writing off the whole outfit on that, paticularly if you know them. Starting from scratch searching for a good car again will take time anyway. The devil you know and all that.

Stheno · 06-05-2015 02:27PM

Did you ask them to get the data on the report corrected?

Bpmull · 06-05-2015 02:35PM

Stheno wrote: »

Did you ask them to get the data on the report corrected?

Yep they are ringing motorcheck and getting them to change it to km not miles.

power pants · 06-05-2015 03:01PM

Stheno wrote: »

I'm obviously not as easy going as you that level of service when handing over what would be a fair whack of cash to me woould worry me
perhaps I'm too distrusting having spent the past couple of months looking at cars, I found an almost perfect car for me which the dealer claimed was owned by his uncle and told me to call him on a certain day after work on it was doene

Rang and he'd sold it and then tries to sell me a completely different car on the basis that it was an auto and his wife had driven it

whats that got to do with the poster's situation?

Foxhole Norman · 06-05-2015 03:03PM

OSI wrote: »

Spend 2 weeks with no car because fuse :pac:

At least BMW saw it coming and already had a spare in it :pac:

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