Does anyone like the Iona Institute?

0byme75341jo28 · 05-05-2015 10:30PM #1

I know no one who supports them. I also find them far too conservative and, frankly, Catholic, to see why anyone would (except devout Catholics of course)

I'm not a fan, are you?

kneemos · 05-05-2015 10:33PM

The early stuff wasn't bad.

Manach · 05-05-2015 10:35PM

No

So as the OP has asked a question. Might the counter-question be what is their own explicit source of opinion on social matters and what qualifies as too anything is this rather relativistic post-modern society?

In original answer, yes.

Slicemeister · 05-05-2015 10:35PM

No

Wasn't she a sister ship to the Jeanie Johnston?

Roger Hassenforder · 05-05-2015 10:35PM

kneemos wrote: »

The early stuff wasn't bad.

then they sold out

Huntergonzo · 05-05-2015 10:36PM

I would have said they're good for comic relief only they probably do influence a certain amount of people, particularly older people (who tend to vote more) and that makes them quite a dangerous organisation.

Cold War Kid · 05-05-2015 10:38PM

Manach wrote: »

what qualifies as too anything is this rather relativistic post-modern society?

I've asked you before and I'll ask it again: wha?!

strobe · 05-05-2015 10:39PM

I kinda do. I'm a sucker for underdogs. I kinda just a little bit hope they win one time (although, just like a school raffle or something, obviously not something that could effect anyone). I feel bad for them. Kinda like I felt bad for Hitler at the end of 'Downfall', I kinda wanted him to win, he looked so sad and defeated. I'd have liked him to just kinda win a quick game of connect four against one of the other lads in the bunker or something to take the edge off things.

So, kinda, is what I'm trying to say.

stimpson · 05-05-2015 10:44PM

I think they provide analysis on social issues that is badly needed in the current climate. I know their hard work in the media has made it much easier for me to decide which way to vote in the upcoming referendum without having to delve into the issues too deeply myself.

I'll be voting yes obviously.

K4t · 05-05-2015 10:48PM

I liked them on facebook. But only so I don't forget about them.

When the Sun Hits · 05-05-2015 10:48PM

That would be an ecuminical matter.

Cold War Kid · 05-05-2015 10:50PM

Don't they get a bunch of funding from pretty fundamentalist quarters? I've no problem with moderate conservatives, no problem with catholics/christians, but big problem with fundamentalists.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 05-05-2015 10:50PM

I'm sure the kids love them.

One eyed Jack · 05-05-2015 10:50PM

I think their detractors give them far more attention than they're worth. Who needs to spend money on PR and marketing when your detractors do all your advertising for free?

the_syco · 05-05-2015 10:52PM

strobe wrote: »

Kinda like I felt bad for Hitler at the end of 'Downfall', I kinda wanted him to win, he looked so sad and defeated.

Hrm.... even those that agree with their policies liken them to Hitler... :pac:

The Backwards Man · 05-05-2015 10:53PM

I've never encountered them outside of the internet, and I know a few staunch Catholics. Maybe they just don't have a presence in Donegal, but they seem pretty irrelevant in reality.

tritriagain · 05-05-2015 10:57PM

I think a good rule of thumb is take on board what David Quinn and or John waters has to say on a topic , analyse it , consider it with a great depth of thought and then vote the opposite way to them. You'll definitely make the right choice 99.99% of the time. The other .01% will probably be the right choice. You've gotta love them.

K4t · 05-05-2015 11:07PM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I think their detractors give them far more attention than they're worth. Who needs to spend money on PR and marketing when your detractors do all your advertising for free?

They're represented in practically every national and private broadcaster debate on social issues, radio and television. The founder David Quinn propagandises in his Irish Independent column, while protuberant member Breda O'Brien does likewise in the Irish Times. So yeah, hard to avoid them really. Oh and don't forget they are being silenced and suppressed in Irish society....

FactCheck · 05-05-2015 11:09PM

kneemos wrote: »

The early stuff wasn't bad.

I dunno, their early stuff were Magdalene Laundries, outlawing divorce and contraception, and the X Case, I'd be more of a fan of their present incarnation, if I was forced to choose.

But fortunately it's unlikely the Iona Institute would want me exercising a choice anyway.

catallus · 05-05-2015 11:13PM

K4t wrote: »

David Quinn propagandises his protuberant member

You see, it's lies like this from the anti-Iona crowd that force neutral reasonable -minded persons to consider what they say in a balanced manner.

Joe prim · 05-05-2015 11:22PM

I don't like the Iona Institute, but that Quinn fella is a total ride, in a kind of repressed, spoiled priest kind of way, and I totally would, if i was a ghey, which, like, I so totally am not dude.....

Also, there should be an Atari Jaguar Institute option in the poll above, in keeping with our ancient and sacred traditions.

One eyed Jack · 05-05-2015 11:24PM

K4t wrote: »

They're represented in practically every national and private broadcaster debate on social issues, radio and television. The founder David Quinn propagandises in his Irish Independent column, while protuberant member Breda O'Brien does likewise in the Irish Times. So yeah, hard to avoid them really. Oh and don't forget they are being silenced and suppressed in Irish society....

Truthfully then, I admit I must be well out of the loop because the only time I ever encounter them is on here when they're being held up for (albeit justifiable) criticism?

I haven't read the paper version of the Independent since it went from broadsheet format to tabloid format (and the content went with it!), and as for the national broadaster, well, satellite television has done away with being limited to the same turgid crap from Donnybrook masquerading as a legitimate source of information and entertainment.

TL:DR - It's much easier to be completely unaware of their existence than it is to choose to torment yourself sitting through a 35 minute youtube video of their latest brain farts.

K4t · 05-05-2015 11:25PM

blue_belt wrote: »

one would think it was ISIS who were being discussed , such is the vitriol directed towards ( this relatively moderate social conservative lobby group ) them from so called tollerant liberals

I have more vitriol for Iona than I do for ISIS. As is my right. Also, truly tolerant liberals don't stand for intolerance, which Iona embody.

FloatingVoter · 05-05-2015 11:28PM

K4t wrote: »

I have more vitriol for Iona than I do for ISIS. As is my right. Also, truly tolerant liberals don't stand for intolerance, which Iona embody.

I'll defend the rights of the daft little freaks to make noise any old time. And I'm not paying any fees to the liberal party for my self-given right to do so.

FactCheck · 05-05-2015 11:28PM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

TL:DR - It's much easier to be completely unaware of their existence than it is to choose to torment yourself sitting through a 35 minute youtube video of their latest brain farts.

It's fairly hard to be completely unaware of their existence when they (or rather, their anonymous US donors) have paid for campaigning signs to be affixed to every streetlight in the country.

And suggesting that we just ignore the national broadcaster, radio, newspapers, and political debates on the eve of two referenda isn't very sensible.

K4t · 05-05-2015 11:30PM

FloatingVoter wrote: »

I'll defend the rights of the daft little freaks to make noise any old time. And I'm not paying any fees to the liberal party for my self-given right to do so.

Nobody is suggesting supressing them and their right to say stupid s**t. Except themselves of course.

Cold War Kid · 05-05-2015 11:30PM

K4t wrote: »

I have more vitriol for Iona than I do for ISIS.

Not at all a fan of then, but Iona hasn't gone on rampages of murder, torture and rape to be fair. Perspective.

RayM · 05-05-2015 11:34PM

Breda O'Brien seems like a nice person. Ludicrously misguided, but pleasant enough. David Quinn, on the other hand, seems deeply unpleasant, sour, mean-spirited and unchristian. If God existed, he'd hate him.

K4t · 05-05-2015 11:35PM

Cold War Kid wrote: »

Iona hasn't gone on rampages of murder, torture and rape to be fair. Perspective

I still find them more reprehensible on a personal level. Isis are evil and hopefully will be ended. But Iona are currently more of a danger to the society I live in. Perspective.

One eyed Jack · 05-05-2015 11:38PM

FactCheck wrote: »

It's fairly hard to be completely unaware of their existence when they (or rather, their anonymous US donors) have paid for campaigning signs to be affixed to every streetlight in the country.

Took a look at those posters actually, no mention of Iona on 'em, at least not on any I saw? Mentions a publishers alright (couldn't make out the phone number, one eye can be a real bummer at times :pac:), and a printers, but no Iona anywhere?

And suggesting that we just ignore the national broadcaster, radio, newspapers, and political debates on the eve of two referenda isn't very sensible.

Ohh it's very sensible, believe me, I find I don't get worked up at all about an issue I've already made up my mind on, so I have no interest in the political peacocking and posturing of the various politically motivated types on either side of what IMO shouldn't even be up for 'debate'.

Ignorance as they say, is indeed bliss

FouxDaFaFa · 05-05-2015 11:38PM

I resent the fact that they refer to themselves as an "Institute", as if they are a centre of great research and learning.

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