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Solpadeine addiction
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Yeah, my dad is totally addicted. Takes about 6 Maxilief (generic paracetamol & codeine) every single day. The paracetamol is actually the bigger worry for me as he's a heavy drinker too.
My brother also once knew a woman who was so addicted to Solpadeine she came home from a two-week holiday early because she'd gone through her supply by the fourth day and opiate painkillers weren't available OTC in the country she was in.
Thats the danger with long term abuse of otc codeine products. It's the other ingredients which cause the damage. Mixing that much paracetamol with alcohol can't be good
Over here, products containing it have a warning on them saying not to take them at all if you drink more than 4 drinks a day. 0 -
Its strange, I'm a casually dressed (some would say scruffy looking
) mid twenties looking 41 year old with a blade one haircut who never gets interrogated anymore in several pharmacies and yet my 67 year old father (albeit looks about 50) gets interrogated every time. I don't even get the short lecture about the 3 days thing. Just get asked "12 or 24?".
Long before the new regulations came in I had recognised myself that they were a mood enhancer. ie. not alone would my headache disappear but I'd be in a better happier mood than could be explained by the headache being gone.
So while I recognised that there was a valid reason for the new regulations because of abuse potential it still rubbed me the wrong way that the majority of sensible users might be inconvenienced by the need to protect the minority of gobsh!tes who abuse them.
Just before the regulations I had a wisdom tooth out and suffered a dry socket. Extremely painful. I quickly ran out of the prescription for 30mg codeine containing Difene. I went to the chemist and got both Solpedene and Nurofen+ and took the allowed daily intake of both (4x 2 Caps) offset from each other by 2 hours. ie. Paracetamol separated from next dose by 4 hours and same for Ibuprofen. But getting 25mg of codeine every 2 hours if you get me. In other words, double dosing on Codeine. This went on for 10 days. I knew to expect a rebound withdrawl headache from the Codeine and just took regular Nurofen and took to my bed on day 11. That was it. One withdrawl headache. Right as rain the next day. The gobsh!te addicts just refuse to suffer that one day withdrawl headache. It made sense to me that one all day withdrawl headache but almost painless 10 days with dry socket was better than a very painful 10 days with dry socket but no withdrawl headache at the end.
Running into the same kind of issue of the gobsh!tes ruining it for the majority with Xanax prescriptions for anxiety. Its the most abused benzo because its the most widely prescribed benzo. Its also abused by illicit stimulant users to help them come down. Its also more likely to be abused by alcoholics. However, the vast majority of users not only use it responsibly but without prompting by their doctor, down regulate their own usage to an 'Only as needed' level. The risk of addiction and major withdrawl kicks in for the majority when taking 1mg 3 or 4 times a day every day for about 4 weeks. A bad week for me is needing to take a single 0.25mg 2 days in a row or taking 3 in the space of a week. Never needed to take more than one in a day. My prescription for 14x 0.25mg lasts me on average 2 months. I still get a fcuking lecture every time I need a new script.
It's also the most abused because it has a short half life with a quicker onset and more off a high than diazepam(valium) which is more gradual onset but it has a longer half life. That's the reason they prescribe it because it's short acting so out of your system quickly. The anxiety rebound effect is worse from xanax because of this also if used regularly. Of course you get a lecture benzos are one of the most addictive things on the planet. Benzo withdrawals are described as worse than heroin withdrawals by people who come off both and they are potentially fatal if not done in a tapered way(when used everyday for a long period withdrawals). I think it's important to put the correct information out there for people reading this thread.0 -
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It's also the most abused because it has a short half life with a quicker onset and more off a high than diazepam(valium) which is more gradual onset but it has a longer half life. That's the reason they prescribe it because it's short acting so out of your system quickly. The anxiety rebound effect is worse from xanax because of this also if used regularly. Of course you get a lecture benzos are one of the most addictive things on the planet. Benzo withdrawals are described as worse than heroin withdrawals by people who come off both and they are potentially fatal if not done in a tapered way(when used everyday for a long period withdrawals). I think it's important to put the correct information out there for people reading this thread.
You and me both. You simply went into greater detail on what I termed 'Major Withdrawl' in my post. ie. clarified that it was almost Heroin withdrawl like. However, the way you phrased the part I've bolded could be read that you were correcting misinformation in my post where there is in fact none.
'Of course you get a lecture'
My point is that while I can understand those being prescribed a high enough dose for a long enough duration which puts them at much greater risk off addiction being given the lecture, I simply can't understand why I, who have been getting 14x 0.25mg every 2-2.5 months for the last year am still getting the lecture when it is patently obvious I couldn't reach the danger dose and duration even if I tried. The danger dosage is 3mg a day (1mg 3 times a day) for 3 weeks and I only get prescribed enough 0.25mg to last 1 and a bit days at 3mg a day (3mg/0.25mg=12 of my tablets). Why then do I need the lecture every time I get a new 14x 0.25 tablet script?? I am so far from addiction risk potential on the Xanax I'm prescribed its not funny!! 0 -
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