[Superthread] Mayweather vs Pacman NO STREAMING REQUESTS

efb · 05-05-2015 05:26PM

I was sober, judged the fight, round by round, sober, gave my judgement at the end of each round, and like in real life - got dogs abuse when people who wanted their guy to win, lost.

Halloween Jack · 05-05-2015 05:30PM

Apparently floyd is saying he'd be up for a rematch once manny's shoulder heals, next year, would take him to that 50th fight anyway...

Panic E · 05-05-2015 05:34PM

Halloween Jack wrote: »

Apparently floyd is saying he'd be up for a rematch once manny's shoulder heals, next year, would take him to that 50th fight anyway...

I'd actually respect him for that. It's a no brainer sure? I'm not disputing that he said it...

… But I think it's unlikely he will do it. How many times did he say 'Pacquaio is next' over the years

cowzerp · 05-05-2015 05:34PM

walshb wrote: »

I don't think many shots thrown by either man were obvious or clear landed and scoring shots. Compu box (people) tallied them up nonetheless.

it's no coincidence that the rounds scored and computbox were pretty similar, I scored it not knowing the figures but based on what i seen and score it 118-110

cowzerp · 05-05-2015 05:38PM

walshb wrote: »

Jeez, you have me thinking now.

But, you are generally anti Pacman and Pro Mayweather through the past 5-6 years. I was buckled, but you were too, on bias!

We need to be objective.

certainly not anti pacman, I simply felt Manny had no hope but a punchers chance v Floyd, I think he agreed with me tbh, My whole "Anti Pacman" thing was just saying Floyd was superior, and if Manny was busier he would have just got beat more, to me it was proven who is better in the fight, Justifying my belief

MisterAnarchy · 05-05-2015 05:40PM

efb wrote: »

I was sober, judged the fight, round by round, sober, gave my judgement at the end of each round, and like in real life - got dogs abuse when people who wanted their guy to win, lost.

I didnt care who won ,I wanted a good fight .
What I saw was one guy on the defensive for most of the fight throwing a few pot shots here and there but largely trying to keep away from a smaller man who was more aggressive .

What Mayweather showed was not great defensive work ,great defensive boxers are hard to hit but they also throw aggressive punches .
They lure their opponent in them hit them hard .
How many big punches did Mayweather throw all night ,2 or 3 ?
Most of his punches were weak as water.

Any time Mayweather looked in a bit of bother he kept grabbing on or lowering his head below his waist ,ridiculous stuff that should have been penalised .

I agree with Holyfield ,I thought Pacquiao won the fight .

efb · 05-05-2015 05:58PM

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

I didnt care who won ,I wanted a good fight .
What I saw was one guy on the defensive for most of the fight throwing a few pot shots here and there but largely trying to keep away from a smaller man who was more aggressive .

What Mayweather showed was not great defensive work ,great defensive boxers are hard to hit but they also throw aggressive punches .
They lure their opponent in them hit them hard .
How many big punches did Mayweather throw all night ,2 or 3 ?
Most of his punches were weak as water.

Any time Mayweather looked in a bit of bother he kept grabbing on or lowering his head below his waist ,ridiculous stuff that should have been penalised .

I agree with Holyfield ,I thought Pacquiao won the fight .

Weak as water? Try being g on the receiving end of one!

efb · 05-05-2015 05:59PM

Pacquiao came forward very little that I can remember. What were your round scores?

Talib Fiasco · 05-05-2015 06:05PM

F you Fraud Duckweather f you :pac:

darced · 05-05-2015 06:16PM

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walshb · 05-05-2015 06:38PM

efb wrote: »

Weak as water? Try being g on the receiving end of one!

My arse. His offensive shots were weak as water. Not once did I even see Manny wobbled or rocked or have his head snapped back. Not a mark on him. Be bloody honest when assessing Floyd's landed shots. He never really tried to get much into them. They were swipes and glances as opposed to deliberate and forceful.

05-05-2015 06:42PM

darced wrote: »

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walshb · 05-05-2015 07:09PM

Levra wrote: »

Floyd was throwing punches ( more than Manny) so he wasn't just "surviving and disengaging".

I was speaking about that clip specifically. From what I know the thrown shots for both men was very close in numbers.

leonil7 · 05-05-2015 07:13PM

bayles said 'i want you to keep this fight clean at all times'.. he must have missed fm's moves.

Chrissybhoy · 05-05-2015 07:31PM

I looked at the fight again. Mayweather held the centre of the ring for large portions of the fight. The only time he got on the move is when he felt his back on the ropes. Why would he stay on the ropes ? Dead right to get out of there sharp. All this running and ducking is cheap to say it was always going to be said if manny lost the the the excuse was ready made.

magma69 · 05-05-2015 07:51PM

The amount of whinging from Pac fans has been pathetic.

Kev M · 05-05-2015 08:03PM

I've watched it again too, and for all the criticism it wasn't even a bad fight. The problem is the fight was 'bigger than boxing', with flomos and pactards battling delusions of right and wrong, good and evil. The fight was never going to live up to the hype - you can count the amount of times floyd's been hurt in his career on one hand... you think he'll suddenly throw out the playbook with a puncher like Pac? His mentality is to 'shut guys out'. and that's what was always going to happen.

walshb · 05-05-2015 08:28PM

Kev M wrote: »

I've watched it again too, and for all the criticism it wasn't even a bad fight. The problem is the fight was 'bigger than boxing', with flomos and pactards battling delusions of right and wrong, good and evil. The fight was never going to live up to the hype - you can count the amount of times floyd's been hurt in his career on one hand... you think he'll suddenly throw out the playbook with a puncher like Pac? His mentality is to 'shut guys out'. and that's what was always going to happen.

Do you really believe he shut Pacman out? I could make the argument that Manny shut Floyd out by not allowing Floyd hit him with any clean and decent shots.

HigginsJ · 05-05-2015 08:29PM

Think I'm missing the "dirty tricks" part of this video. A couple of holds, one low blow, and a few other clips that I am not sure what I am meant to be looking at.

T-K-O · 05-05-2015 08:39PM

Halloween Jack wrote: »

I don't understand how the accusation of 'running away' is anyway valid whatsoever. Surely if your opponent is doing that and you are good enough you can cut off the ring/trap him on tbe ropes etc.

If you can't you're effectively criticising your opponent for being clever enough not to fight exactly the type of fight you wanted to fight.

It's like arsene wenger or somebody criticising Stoke for playing defensively, to their strengths rather than try and play open free flowing football which wouldn't suit them at all.

I do agree in a sense with the idea that if mayweather really cared about his legacy or the fans he should be more aggressive, but he probably and legitimately sees his only job as winning fights, which he does in a way that is very effective

That's all well and good but pbf doesn't market himself as Stoke, he's barca in their prime or at least that is what was shoved down our neck

T-K-O · 05-05-2015 08:46PM

Levra wrote: »

Floyd landed more significant punches so don't expect people to take you seriously if you make that point.

Having watched it twice I'd have to disagree, while he did land more he pot shot his way to victory.

Basically , most rounds consisted on Floyd landing 3 jabs to mannys 2

efb · 05-05-2015 09:30PM

T-K-O wrote: »

Having watched it twice I'd have to disagree, while he did land more he pot shot his way to victory.

Basically , most rounds consisted on Floyd landing 3 jabs to mannys 2

Well me, the judges and most rational people agree even compu box.

Floyd landed more - that's a Fact

RoryMac · 05-05-2015 09:31PM

T-K-O wrote: »

Having watched it twice I'd have to disagree, while he did land more he pot shot his way to victory.

Basically , most rounds consisted on Floyd landing 3 jabs to mannys 2

I watched most of it again and after the first watching I felt Mayweather had dominated but on second viewing it was closer. Mayweather shaded most rounds without putting Manny under pressure.

Manny just wasn't busy enough to get the nod in most rounds, he seemed as happy as Mayweather with the lack of action

T-K-O · 05-05-2015 09:36PM

efb wrote: »

Well me, the judges and most rational people agree even compu box.

Floyd landed more - that's a Fact

Even compu box eh. Re read my post I never said he didn't statistically land more shots.

T-K-O · 05-05-2015 09:37PM

RoryMac wrote: »

I watched most of it again and after the first watching I felt Mayweather had dominated but on second viewing it was closer. Mayweather shaded most rounds without putting Manny under pressure.

Manny just wasn't busy enough to get the nod in most rounds, he seemed as happy as Mayweather with the lack of action

Agreed, 3 jabs to 2, a masterclass ....

Tiriel · 05-05-2015 09:44PM

MythicalMadMan wrote: »

Imagine others posting in ur thread when a massive fight is on I spent 5 mins scanning this and u come across a right idiot, ur pure butthurt over poeple posting in here its quite sad,

There's a report a post function here. Also, there's an ignore button. Please use one or both in future rather than resorting to personal abuse within the thread.

efb · 05-05-2015 09:51PM

T-K-O wrote: »

Even compu box eh. Re read my post I never said he didn't statistically land more shots.

You Said 3 Jabs to Manny's 2... Clearly that's not correct

05-05-2015 09:53PM

Mayweather Pacquiao II

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/floyd-mayweather-will-fight-manny-pacquiao-again-in-a-year-1.2201009

Probably deserves a new thread, but... They're going again??? Seriously???

Guess the lure of another $100 mil too much to say no to, but give it a week at least boys.

Kev M · 05-05-2015 09:56PM

walshb wrote: »

Do you really believe he shut Pacman out? I could make the argument that Manny shut Floyd out by not allowing Floyd hit him with any clean and decent shots.

Shut out to the extent of some of his past opponents? No.
But shut out to the point where his strengths were nullified? For the most part, yes.

RoryMac · 05-05-2015 10:00PM

Cali_girl wrote: »

Mayweather Pacquiao II

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/floyd-mayweather-will-fight-manny-pacquiao-again-in-a-year-1.2201009

Probably deserves a new thread, but... They're going again??? Seriously???

Guess the lure of another $100 mil too much to say no to, but give it a week at least boys.

Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me

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