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LadyAthame · 04-05-2015 12:07AM

Terry wrote: »

Death threats, I've had a few. But then again, too few to mention.

Earlier today, someone went to the bother of creating an account to troll me over something that happened in late 2007.

He even went to the bother of sending me a PM. See attached picture.
Some people really know how to hold a grudge.

We're still allowed to take the piss out of banned members, right?
That **** was a really sad bastard. Seriously, it was something that happened 7 and a half years ago. I had to google it to get the date. Get a ****ing life.

That is awful by the way.

04-05-2015 12:10AM

Tarzana2 wrote: »

The mindfulness techniques appear not to be working for you, judging by your own accounts of your treatment of IT support employees in your workplace. Not the best advertisement for the practice, are you?

Mod

I'm sure you'll understand the irony of your post, considering both the poster you're quoting; whom you seem to have taken a particular dislike to, the thread in which you are posting, and the fact you are bringing old posts into the argument.

I strongly suggest you put this poster on ignore as you seem to continually get angered by their presence in this forum.

Terry · 04-05-2015 12:12AM

LadyAthame wrote: »

That is awful by the way.

Ahh, that's nothing. I got a laugh out of it.
When someone goes really, really far out of their way to meet you in person, then it's time to worry. No names mentioned on that one.

ETA: Mostly because I've forgotten the names.

LadyAthame · 04-05-2015 12:14AM

Terry wrote: »

Ahh, that's nothing. I got a laugh out of it.
When someone goes really, really far out of their way to meet you in person, then it's time to worry.

Yeah .. i don't know the names ...but yeah..

Tarzana2 · 04-05-2015 12:22AM

I don't put any poster on ignore. I'd rather experience every board to its full extent. If people discuss a subject a lot, they should be prepared for the fact that they won't always get positive responses.

People also really need to learn the meaning of the word 'irony'. I'm not advocating mindfulness myself.

04-05-2015 12:27AM

Tarzana2 wrote: »

I don't put any poster on ignore. I'd rather experience every board to its full extent.

Mod

That's your choice. You will however be subject to mod action if you continue to interact with the poster in the manner which you have done on this thread and in the past. If you are unable to refrain, using boards to its full extent won't be an option.

Please bear in mind that discussing mod actions or warnings on thread is against site rules. Read the charter for further info.

Terry · 04-05-2015 07:43AM

MacbethForever wrote: »

You banned someone for saying "Macbeth" in a thread for a week and you're calling be the f****** loser? HA.

I think you need a hug.

RonanP77 · 04-05-2015 07:55AM

How Soon Is Now wrote:

God no I love you all!!

Yolu probably smell funny and I don't share your views on various subjects. Now, that'll learn ya to love everyone.

Matt_Trakker · 04-05-2015 08:06AM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

= as I always explain to foreigners, arguing is a hobby for many Irish people and an addiction to some of us.

No, it's not.
That's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen on this forum.

Boom_Bap · 04-05-2015 09:30AM

I don't recall being in any particular beefs with anyone. There was one guy that I took some time out to coach on how to post without insulting everyone.
For some reason I was able to understand the message he wanted to convey, but to others it read as awful stuff. It resulted in everyone reporting his posts and spitting horrible responses back at him. It was a shame really, because he had really great arguments to make.
He eventually got p*ssed off and called me lots of names but has since apologised.

The one thing that annoys me these days is watching 2 or 3 people go at it, and then the last resort of 'back up your claims with a link' is thrown. When no link provided, 'na-na-na-na-na-naaa's and other such insults fly and chests puffed all because someone just didn't want to lower themselves to that level.

The whole 'link backup' line is the playground equivalent of 'I know what I am, but what are you?'

hatrickpatrick · 04-05-2015 11:41AM

Matt_Trakker wrote: »

No, it's not.
That's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen on this forum.

Ah feck off, it clearly is. This post is just moronic. Are you going to back that comment up with anything?!

osarusan · 04-05-2015 11:46AM

Boom_Bap wrote: »

The one thing that annoys me these days is watching 2 or 3 people go at it, and then the last resort of 'back up your claims with a link' is thrown. When no link provided, 'na-na-na-na-na-naaa's and other such insults fly and chests puffed all because someone just didn't want to lower themselves to that level.

The whole 'link backup' line is the playground equivalent of 'I know what I am, but what are you?'

I don't understand this attitude at all.

In a thread like the marriage referendum thread, with people posting about how it is 'proven' that two gay parents can't do as good a job as straight parents, or in a thread where people are claiming that Irish teachers are paid XX percent more than the EU average, you think is is childish/stupid to ask for a link to this evidence/'proof'?

Hitchens · 04-05-2015 01:29PM

Boom_Bap wrote: »

The one thing that annoys me these days is watching 2 or 3 people go at it, and then the last resort of 'back up your claims with a link' is thrown. When no link provided, 'na-na-na-na-na-naaa's and other such insults fly and chests puffed all because someone just didn't want to lower themselves to that level.

The whole 'link backup' line is the playground equivalent of 'I know what I am, but what are you?'

Well said. There are a few posters on AH who are notorious for that type of behaviour. Weed 'em out I say!

Cold War Kid · 04-05-2015 01:40PM

It's so terrible to ask someone to back up what they're putting across as facts when it's just spurious opinion?

Well I suppose it is "terrible" to those who know what they're saying is nonsense and they haven't got a leg to stand on.

The Backwards Man · 04-05-2015 01:47PM

Cold War Kid wrote: »

It's so terrible to ask someone to back up what they're putting across as facts when it's just spurious opinion?

Well I suppose it is "terrible" to those who know what they're saying is nonsense and they haven't got a leg to stand on.

I think (maybe) Boom Bap means when you are asked to back up your own opinion with links, when all you're professing it to be is your own opinion. I see that every so often and it is really annoying.

_Whimsical_ · 04-05-2015 01:59PM

The "back it up with links" thing can get a little ridiculous too as there are links to back up pretty much everything these days. Providing reliable sources or credible research is helpful, some article from some unheard of rag spouting the same niche opinion is not. In some cases you'd need to do a small thesis and draw for several different sources to back up something that is very basic common sense to most people. It's very hard to be arsed when it's a situation where that's what someone's looking for from you, and very often the just want it because they're too belligerent to concede they're wrong, they're just hoping you won't bother jumping through hoops to prove it.

Buona Fortuna · 04-05-2015 02:27PM

I think we could have a feckin great feud over whether its reasonable or legitimate to ask for sources.

Mark Tapley · 04-05-2015 02:29PM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

I've had a few posters take cheap potshots at me on this particular forum. I'm well able to ignore them though. The issue is with them and not me.

I'd suggest they learn some basic mindfulness techniques, but even that suggestion seems to anger some people.

I think Aongus is an interesting case as he appears to be a constructed persona. It would be like having a feud with an idea. He plays it well but frequently repeats anecdotes ad nauseum , IT guy being the worst offender. The addition of Mindfulness to the schtick is misjudged I feel. I fear for Aongus's future as he becomes the caricature in actuality.
I dont think I feud with Aongus but I certainly enjoy sending a cheap shot across his bows on occasion.

Matt_Trakker · 04-05-2015 02:31PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Are you going to back that comment up with anything?!

hahaha, jaysus, bit touchy eh?
I don't really need to back anything up, you're the one that made the dumb statement, how about you go and back that up?
Come on, give me a shred of evidence that Irish people love to argue.

Irish people are no more argumentative than any other nation on this planet. What a ridiculous thing to think.
Maybe you're just one of those awkward gobdaws who would fight over what shade of brown dogsh!t is but that's just your personality. No need to drag the rest of us down to your level bro.

pablo128 · 04-05-2015 02:32PM

The next person to ask me for a link is getting one of these. https://www.google.ie/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbulldozer.china-direct-buy.com%2Fv%2F4%2Fproduct_detail%2F10165909%2Ftrack_link.html&ei=xXRHVfD9M-KU7Qajr4HAAg&bvm=bv.92291466,d.ZGU&psig=AFQjCNEZlgf1VO0_KwMAUBhEfY2WZaWFrg&ust=1430832676250029

Dwarf.Shortage · 04-05-2015 02:38PM

I haven't been posting that long but have had a few vast differences of opinions with people that managed to stay within the relevant thread. A guy did get red carded and banned for a while because I was pointing out his repeated victim blaming of Elaine O'Hara and he got very heated, told me I was "too thick to understand" what he was saying. Wouldn't be surprised if he comes looking for me once the ban is over :rolleyes::D:rolleyes:

MadDog76 · 04-05-2015 02:38PM

Buona Fortuna wrote: »

I think we could have a feckin great feud over whether its reasonable or legitimate to ask for sources.

I think it depends on the situation/topic ........... if it's on a point which is common sense/knowledge then it's ridiculous to expect a poster to go off looking for links, equally so if a poster is simply posting his/her opinion and presenting it as such ............ as another poster said, it's easy enough to find a source which will back-up almost any point of view or opinion anyway so often times it's a redundant request and/or task to ask for or present "valid relevant" links.

I often think to myself "I've won this argument" when presented with a "links please" reply from a poster.

Cold War Kid · 04-05-2015 02:46PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I think (maybe) Boom Bap means when you are asked to back up your own opinion with links, when all you're professing it to be is your own opinion. I see that every so often and it is really annoying.

Opinion doesn't require links because it's just opinion, neither right nor wrong.

But when it's something that is presented as fact or likelihood, getting all arsey about the request for a link just looks like they know they're talking tripe. Saying "It's my opinion" is used as a get-out clause too, when opinion doesn't even come into it - it's either a fact or it isn't.

I think actually yeah, the difference between fact and opinion is what causes the issues people take with requests for links/not providing links.

whatismyname · 04-05-2015 02:56PM

Not sure if this will make sense, but what I don't get is when something which either is or isn't gonna be true is portrayed as opinions.

Some things are either going to be factually true or not.

Some things on the other hand are the type of thing that are open to opinion and interpretation.

For either, I usually try to start with 'I think', 'in my opinion' etc, if it's my opinion... I say 'I try', but I don't know if I do or not as I think / hope it's just within my natural speech.

But I don't really get when things that are either going to be factually true or not are stated, and not with an 'I think' beginning, but just a statement said, as if it is a fact, but when asked about it, the person says well, it's just my opinion.

For a thing that isn't about opinion, that is either going to be true or not... so if you're not sure if it's true or not, maybe just check it out before sharing your statement which you only think is true.

Make any sense?

And if it something's your opinion, I don't get why it's so often presented as factual statement as opposed to the apparent opinion it is.

Magico Gonzalez · 04-05-2015 02:59PM

whatismyname wrote: »

Not sure if this will make sense, but what I don't get is when something which either is or isn't gonna be true is portrayed as opinions.

Some things are either going to be factually true or not.

Some things on the other hand are the type of thing that are open to opinion and interpretation.

For either, I usually try to start with 'I think', 'in my opinion' etc, if it's my opinion... I say 'I try', but I don't know if I do or not as I think / hope it's just within my natural speech.

But I don't really get when things that are either going to be factually true or not are stated, and not with an 'I think' beginning, but just a statement said, as if it is a fact, but when asked about it, the person says well, it's just my opinion.

For a thing that isn't about opinion, that is either going to be true or not... so if you're not sure if it's true or not, maybe just check it out before sharing your statement which you only think is true.

Make any sense?

The thing with binary facts is that they often aren't binary facts.

hatrickpatrick · 04-05-2015 03:02PM

Matt_Trakker wrote: »

hahaha, jaysus, bit touchy eh?

FECK OFF! :mad:

I don't really need to back anything up, you're the one that made the dumb statement, how about you go and back that up?

How about you go and back up your face?!

Come on, give me a shred of evidence that Irish people love to argue.

This conversation surely counts as a shred of evidence

Irish people are no more argumentative than any other nation on this planet. What a ridiculous thing to think.

Know what's ridiculous? Your attitude.

Maybe you're just one of those awkward gobdaws who would fight over what shade of brown dogsh!t is but that's just your personality.

The shade of brown my dog's sh!t is, generally serves as a harbringer of what's in store later when she's taking her next crap. This stuff matters, dude. :pac:

No need to drag the rest of us down to your level bro.

Do you even lift, brah?

pmasterson95 · 04-05-2015 03:06PM

whatismyname wrote: »

Not sure if this will make sense, but what I don't get is when something which either is or isn't gonna be true is portrayed as opinions.

Some things are either going to be factually true or not.

Some things on the other hand are the type of thing that are open to opinion and interpretation.

For either, I usually try to start with 'I think', 'in my opinion' etc, if it's my opinion... I say 'I try', but I don't know if I do or not as I think / hope it's just within my natural speech.

But I don't really get when things that are either going to be factually true or not are stated, and not with an 'I think' beginning, but just a statement said, as if it is a fact, but when asked about it, the person says well, it's just my opinion.

For a thing that isn't about opinion, that is either going to be true or not... so if you're not sure if it's true or not, maybe just check it out before sharing your statement which you only think is true.

Make any sense?

And if it something's your opinion, I don't get why it's so often presented as factual statement as opposed to the apparent opinion it is.

Is there a link for this. Cheers

whatismyname · 04-05-2015 03:07PM

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Is there a link for this. Cheers

Jeez, it's just my opinion :rolleyes:

:P

Sand · 04-05-2015 03:13PM

The "IMO" does make a difference. The poster is acknowledging it isn't a fact, its just their opinion. The question to ask is not "Prove your opinion is actually a fact", its to ask "What makes that's your opinion? What evidence do you have for that view?"

Facts are not opinions, but opinions can either be based on some evidence or no evidence. If a poster is making stupid claims and claiming immunity on the basis that its their opinion, they ought to be able to explain their decision making in reaching that opinion that you don't have to agree with but at least is passably objective.

Cold War Kid · 04-05-2015 03:16PM

I thought an opinion was just a subjective view, neither right nor wrong, but if it can also include views that are wrong, then that makes more sense.

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