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How will you vote in the Marriage Equality referendum? Mod Note Post 1

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  • #7382
    GCU Flexible Demeanour
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,257 ✭✭✭GCU Flexible Demeanour


    Louise Gentle Gem wrote: »
    Can someone close this thread?

    The same pattern has been repeating itself over 630 pages and will doubtless continue for the next 3 weeks.

    The (mostly) dumb minority have had their posts ravaged by the (mostly) smug majority who then proceed to give each other metaphorical 'high fives'.

    The referendum will be passed.In 2 years time nobody will remember what all the fuss was about.
    I mostly agree, although the thread showed some signs of improvement after post 6310.


  • #7383
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    Supergurrier wrote: »
    ^^ Case in point

    I said im voting yes because equality is important.

    It's the state that has us where we are not joe public.

    Sorry massa how you want me to speak?


  • #7384
    Links234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Woodville56 wrote: »
    So playing the "everyone who doesn't support the SSM referendum is homophobic "

    Hang on, has anyone come up with a reason why denying LGBT people their rights is not homophobic yet?


  • #7385
    frostyjacks
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    I'll repeat the question again in the hopes this time you'll answer it. What do you think homosexuality is, if not natural?

    Is it being attracted to someone of same sex? I've told you my opinions. I don't know what answer you want to hear.


  • #7386
    Supergurrier
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,302 ✭✭✭Supergurrier


    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    Sorry massa how you want me to speak?

    After thinking and not out of your hole perhaps ?

    :pac:


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  • #7387
    MrWalsh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭MrWalsh


    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    I'm so sorry Massa. Next time Imma gonna be a good little queer and ask for equality all nice and fancy like not to offend your dignity. So sorry massa.

    Racist and homophobic. Nice.


  • #7388
    ebbsy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,227 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    I like chicken.


  • #7389
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    MrWalsh wrote: »
    Racist and homophobic. Nice.

    Sarcasm M'thinks.


  • #7390
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,709 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    GCU Flexible Demeanour wrote: »
    Oh, dear. How these people react when things aren't going their way.

    I'd point out that I didn't say you were particularly hubristic, but that would be pedantic.

    What I certainly can see is all the agitated posts sparked by a banal comment.


    You think far too highly of yourself if you assume that you have in any way agitated me. Look indeed at how you react when nobody is interested in discussing something which has no relevance to this referendum. You've been pushing it across a couple of threads now and you're getting nowhere with it, yet you still persist, despite knowing by now after being informed numerous times already that your issue has nothing to do with the referendum.

    Your comment isn't banal. It's simply irrelevant to any discussion on the proposal being put forward in this upcoming referendum. How many more times are you going to try wedging it into this discussion?

    It's a red herring. You know it, I know it. We all know it, so at this point perhaps you should drop the pedantry and try and engage productively in the discussion rather than referring to anyone who doesn't feel a need to entertain you as 'children'.


  • #7391
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    Sorry massa how you want me to speak?

    He has a point. Sometimes the over the top sarcasm is a bit unneeded, and really open to mis-interpretation.
    Links234 wrote: »
    Hang on, has anyone come up with a reason why denying LGBT people their rights is not homophobic yet?

    Oh I don't know Links, I've been out canvassing a fair bit around Cork, and while I have come across quite a few outright No people, I've met a few in the middle who just aren't too sure. Some of them have misinterpretations about the issues, and some have been blatantly lied to and fed a lot of propeganda, or they were raised in a certain way.

    In some cases, I'd say some of the possible No voters are not directly homophobic, but are misguided.


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  • #7392
    frostyjacks
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    Links234 wrote: »
    Hang on, has anyone come up with a reason why denying LGBT people their rights is not homophobic yet?

    Because there is no right to SSM


  • #7393
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    Supergurrier wrote: »
    After thinking and not out of your hole perhaps ?

    :pac:

    Right so.

    Do you realise how ignorant and dis-empowering it is to tell a minority group how they ought to articulate their experience of discrimination and then to try and patrol how they ought to seek equality?

    Do you understand that having people smile in your face and talk politely all the while arguing for the state to continue to legally enforce your status as a second class citizen is deeply, profoundly hurtful? Do you understand why on occasion some of us might lose our patience and lash out? After all in spite of our homosexuality we are just human at the end of the day?


  • #7394
    GCU Flexible Demeanour
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,257 ✭✭✭GCU Flexible Demeanour


    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    You think far too highly of yourself if you assume that you have in any way agitated me.
    But, sure, it's evident. You, and the rest of the gaggle, wouldn't be investing so much effort in pursuing my posts if ye weren't agitated.

    Over a perfectly banal statement. Exactly what I expected.


  • #7395
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    MrWalsh wrote: »
    Racist and homophobic. Nice.

    FFS. How on Earth is satire referencing similar attitudes to race relations racism? Once more (black) Jesus weeps.


  • #7396
    keeponhurling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,556 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    I also consider people who disagree with me to be misguided


  • #7397
    Supergurrier
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,302 ✭✭✭Supergurrier


    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    Right so.

    Do you realise how ignorant and dis-empowering it is to tell a minority group how they ought to articulate their experience of discrimination and then to try and patrol how they ought to seek equality?

    Do you understand that having people smile in your face and talk politely all the while arguing for the state to continue to legally enforce your status as a second class citizen is deeply, profoundly hurtful? Do you understand why on occasion some of us might lose our patience and lash out? After all in spite of our homosexuality we are just human at the end of the day?

    Well articulate yourself then and don't post bollox

    It's not very hard.

    It's 2015 equality is and has for a long time been a right.

    Neither sides are covering themselves in glory.

    Don't try and beat a moron (no side) at their own game they have more experience at it.


  • #7398
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,709 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    GCU Flexible Demeanour wrote: »
    But, sure, it's evident. You, and the rest of the gaggle, wouldn't be investing so much effort in pursuing my posts if ye weren't agitated.

    Over a perfectly banal statement. Exactly what I expected.


    You expected people to engage in a discussion with you, on a discussion forum...

    How long did it take you to figure that out if you don't mind my asking?


  • #7399
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    Supergurrier wrote: »
    Well articulate yourself then and don't post bollox

    It's not very hard.

    It's 2015 equality is and has for a long time been a right.

    Neither sides are covering themselves in glory.

    Don't try and beat a moron (no side) at their own game they have more experience at it.

    So you actually don't get it at all do you?


  • #7400
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    keeponhurling wrote: »
    I also consider people who disagree with me to be misguided

    Oh you durrty durrty Isis-gay-terrorist facist.

    :pac: in case anyone doesn't get it.


  • #7401
    Supergurrier
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,302 ✭✭✭Supergurrier


    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    So you actually don't get it at all do you?

    Obviously not, where can i buy a bag of this "IT"


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  • #7402
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,249 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    GCU Flexible Demeanour wrote: »
    I mostly agree, although the thread showed some signs of improvement after post 6310.

    Ah, when you joined the thread.

    We are graced by your presence.


  • #7403
    GCU Flexible Demeanour
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,257 ✭✭✭GCU Flexible Demeanour


    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    You expected people to engage in a discussion with you, on a discussion forum...

    How long did it take you to figure that out if you don't mind my asking?
    Oh, not long at all. It just occured, looking at the way the debate was going, "you know, these people are in a state of mind were they'll try to refute a perfectly banal statement".

    And so it was.

    Incidently, this part of our dialogue isn't boring for anyone else. And you don't seem a bit agitated.

    But I think I might just go and clip my toenails. Maybe check in tomorrow, unless there's a rerun of "Criminal Minds" on somewhere.


  • #7404
    Wilberto
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 8,582 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wilberto


    Supergurrier wrote: »
    Don't try and beat a moron (no side) at their own game they have more experience at it.


    That reminded me of a quote I saw in somebody's signature:

    "Never argue with an idiot. They will only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

    :pac:



    That's not aimed at anyone here - I just like that quote! :D


  • #7405
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    Supergurrier wrote: »
    Obviously not, where can i buy a bag of this "IT"

    One can't purchase understanding. You can engage in a non-confrontational way with those who are trying to have discussion with you as equals. Can you do that or not?


  • #7406
    Whosthis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Whosthis


    Gays, fear not, Gandalf has your back.


    https://twitter.com/IanMcKellen/status/594155197959524352


  • #7407
    Supergurrier
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,302 ✭✭✭Supergurrier


    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    One can't purchase understanding. You can engage in a non-confrontational way with those who are trying to have discussion with you as equals. Can you do that or not?

    Read your 1st 2 posts and come back to me :)

    Then read my 1st post

    *Contemplate*


  • #7408
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    Supergurrier wrote: »
    Read your 1st 2 posts and come back to me :)

    Then read my 1st post

    *Contemplate*

    I read them and I stand by them. You have articulated your disagreement but have yet to justify it, care to do so now?


  • #7409
    deseil
    Closed Accounts Posts: 333 ✭✭deseil


    I'm a yes voter! But this crap in all elections of canvassers standing on the street/train station etc handing out vote yes slivers of paper is just annoying me I've told 3 of them "ye I'm voting Yes"and they still handed me the paper, what is the point Such a waste of money!


  • #7410
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    deseil wrote: »
    I'm a yes voter! But this crap in all elections of canvassers standing on the street/train station etc handing out vote yes slivers of paper is just annoying me I've told 3 of them "ye I'm voting Yes"and they still handed me the paper, what is the point Such a waste of money!

    Thats called campaigning.


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  • #7411
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    deseil wrote: »
    I'm a yes voter! But this crap in all elections of canvassers standing on the street/train station etc handing out vote yes slivers of paper is just annoying me I've told 3 of them "ye I'm voting Yes"and they still handed me the paper, what is the point Such a waste of money!

    God help ye next election....


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