Yet another death happens in police custody: Freddy Gray

DocQismyJesus · 28-04-2015 03:16PM

Amazingfun wrote: »

77 so far this year! Not insignificant at all. More like alarming.
And what is funny is your quick assumption these murders had nothing to do with race- that is what people tried to claim about the Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom rape/torture and murder. As if- it most certainly was.

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/local-news/horror-of-christiannewsom-killings-in-focus

Btw: And I am very well schooled in the "racial dynamics" of the USA. Very.

Quick read through of your recent post exposes a complete racist advocating for mercy to drug trafficking white Australians on one hand while quoting neo nazi militia movement websites on the other to expose the "black threat"

I think I'll take my 25 yrs of born and raised living in an American city as well as 5 yrs working in a marginalised inner city high school w/ an almost exclusively black/ Latino population over your internet understanding of USA racial dynamics.

Move out to Idaho and build an arsenal if you are really so terrified

MathDebater · 28-04-2015 03:18PM

drug trafficking white Australians

They are both Australians of Asian descent. So there goes that theory.

DocQismyJesus · 28-04-2015 03:22PM

MathDebater wrote: »

They are both Australians of Asian descent. So there goes that theory.

Yup. Asians have pretty much been allowed in the White "club" for years by race baiters- as long as they behave

Amazingfun · 28-04-2015 03:30PM

DocQismyJesus wrote: »

Quick read through of your recent post exposes a complete racist advocating for mercy to drug trafficking white Australians on one hand while quoting neo nazi militia movement websites on the other to expose the "black threat"

I think I'll take my 25 yrs of born and raised living in an American city as well as 5 yrs working in a marginalised inner city high school w/ an almost exclusively black/ Latino population over your internet understanding of USA racial dynamics.

Move out to Idaho and build an arsenal if you are really so terrified

Haha...of course you go immediately to reading my posting history in the hopes of finding a means of attacking me and deflecting away from the posting of black on white crime stats. I mean, it's only to be expected.

1. Neither of the two Aussies to be executed today are white. Silly comment.

2. The CCOC is not a "neo nazi" anything. Silly comment.

I hope your students are the beneficiaries of a more informed "teacher" when you're taking your misinformed self classbound

Amazingfun · 28-04-2015 03:33PM

DocQismyJesus wrote: »

Yup. Asians have pretty much been allowed in the White "club" for years by race baiters- as long as they behave

:pac: Oh really? Dark skinned Asians are now in a "white club"? What a joke. Also...I guess the only "race baiters" in the USA are white's?
This is what you post instead of admitting you knew next to nothing about the case at hand. Par for the course...carry on!

MathDebater · 28-04-2015 03:36PM

DocQismyJesus wrote: »

Yup. Asians have pretty much been allowed in the White "club" for years by race baiters- as long as they behave

Do you live in Ireland or Europe? I've never heard of Asians being described as white here. Anyway, the lads on Death Row definitely did not 'behave'.

Hans Bricks · 28-04-2015 03:40PM

DocQismyJesus wrote: »

Quick read through of your recent post exposes a complete racist advocating for mercy to drug trafficking white Australians on one hand while quoting neo nazi militia movement websites on the other to expose the "black threat"

I think I'll take my 25 yrs of born and raised living in an American city as well as 5 yrs working in a marginalised inner city high school w/ an almost exclusively black/ Latino population over your internet understanding of USA racial dynamics.

Move out to Idaho and build an arsenal if you are really so terrified

You seem to have a problem with people pointing toward simple stats regarding murder rates in the USA.

DocQismyJesus wrote: »

Yup. Asians have pretty much been allowed in the White "club" for years by race baiters- as long as they behave

Were you omitted or refused access to this "white club" whatever the fuck that is ? Perhaps the down trodden inner city minorities who have to listen to middle class bleating all day could learn a thing or two from their asian counterparts.

Amazingfun · 28-04-2015 03:41PM

MathDebater wrote: »

Do you live in Ireland or Europe? I've never heard of Asians being described as white here.

He said he is in America. I, having lived in both places..as well as living for a year IN Asia, I've never, ever, heard or seen Asians described as white. Funny thing is, however, that in many Asian countries, those with the lightest skin are considered most beautiful. I remember how shocked I was in China when I saw the HUGE amount of space in the pharmacy devoted to "whitening skin" products. Big business there. But I guess they are racists:P

Smiles35 · 28-04-2015 03:49PM

Hans Bricks wrote: »

Perhaps the down trodden inner city minorities who have to listen to middle class bleating all day could learn a thing or two from their asian counterparts.

I must admit a strong gravitation to the asian classics.

DocQismyJesus · 28-04-2015 03:51PM

I live in Ireland now. Tbh most of you on this thread are beyond help- I suggest you read about the status of Asians in the South Africa apartheid structure it may help you understand what I'm getting at.

I'm far from a bleeding heart but you do really need to look at the cause of anger/ violence in America before you go on about it. Anyone can quote statistics from biased websites. Asking "why" things happen is much harder

Trust me race in America is far more nuanced and complicated than you guys will ever grasp.

Oh and talking about u whitening products in China actually proves my point about acceptance into dominant cultute

ohnonotgmail · 28-04-2015 03:53PM

DocQismyJesus wrote: »

I live in Ireland now. Tbh most of you on this thread are beyond help- I suggest you read about the status of Asians in the South Africa apartheid structure it may help you understand what I'm getting at.

I'm far from a bleeding heart but you do really need to look at the cause of anger/ violence in America before you go on about it. Anyone can quote statistics from biased websites. Asking "why" things happen is much harder

Trust me race in America is far more nuanced and complicated than you guys will ever grasp.

Oh and talking about u whitening products in China actually proves my point about acceptance into dominant cultute

were the FBI stats i posted from a biased source?

MathDebater · 28-04-2015 03:57PM

DocQismyJesus wrote: »

I live in Ireland now.

Ok. A minute ago you said:

Terrified whitey would be funny if he weren't so dangerous

And:

I think I'll take my 25 yrs of born and raised living in an American city

So you think 'whitey' is dangerous. Yet you moved to one of the most 'whitey' country's in the world. That's hilarious.

DocQismyJesus · 28-04-2015 03:57PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

were the FBI stats i posted from a biased source?

What were you trying to prove with them? That black on black crime is a huge issue ?that young black men are at a far greater risk of dying a violent death than young white ones?

At least that's how I read them and yup that would all be correct- the problem is you probably aren't willing/ able to answer why as that would require a far greater understanding of American history than any of the closet racist IKIP types posting on this thread would have

hatrickpatrick · 28-04-2015 03:58PM

Personally I feel the race issue, while important, is obscuring a deeper issue in America which is total police unaccountability. They have no independent complaints mechanism, the number of times you hear "we've held an internal investigation and there's nothing to see here" is just ridiculous. They need an independent oversight mechanism.

ohnonotgmail · 28-04-2015 03:59PM

DocQismyJesus wrote: »

What were you trying to prove with them? That black on black crime is a huge issue ?that young black men are at a far greater risk of dying a violent death than young white ones?

At least that's how I read them and yup that would all be correct- the problem is you probably aren't willing/ able to answer why as that would require a far greater understanding of American history than any of the closet racist IKIP types posting on this thread would have

well actually more that young black men are more likely to die violent death at the hands of other black people. overwhelmingly.

Amazingfun · 28-04-2015 03:59PM

DocQismyJesus wrote: »

I live in Ireland now. Tbh most of you on this thread are beyond help- I suggest you read about the status of Asians in the South Africa apartheid structure it may help you understand what I'm getting at.

I'm far from a bleeding heart but you do really need to look at the cause of anger/ violence in America before you go on about it. Anyone can quote statistics from biased websites. Asking "why" things happen is much harder

Trust me race in America is far more nuanced and complicated than you guys will ever grasp.

Oh and talking about u whitening products in China actually proves my point about acceptance into dominant cultute

Riiiight. Only you know the truth about race and the rest of us are just ignorant haters and "beyond help". :rolleyes:

And "anyone" doesn't quote the race stats because most are quite shocked when they are made aware of them.....on the rare occasion that happens.

I don't "trust you" on much judging from your postings, frankly. I will stick to reality and factual data rather than your take on why things are playing out the way they are there.

And your mentioning South Africa is almost amusing....were the living horror whites there are currently living not be so awful. You do know South Africa is currently the "rape capital" of the world? An increasingly dangerous and violent pace for anyone to live in, but for the remaining white people it's hell.

osarusan · 28-04-2015 04:00PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

well actually more that young black men are more likely to die violent death at the hands of other black people. overwhelmingly.

I didn't see that disputed anywhere.

ohnonotgmail · 28-04-2015 04:02PM

osarusan wrote: »

I didn't see that disputed anywhere.

well that is a start then. perhaps then we could calm down on the hysteria every time a black person is killed by a white one.

Smiles35 · 28-04-2015 04:03PM

DocQismyJesus wrote: »

I live in Ireland now. Tbh most of you on this thread are beyond help- I suggest you read about the status of Asians in the South Africa apartheid structure it may help you understand what I'm getting at.

You may as well be asking to check the sometimes favorable status of Jews in various places in Europe at certain times in history.

Amazingfun · 28-04-2015 04:08PM

MathDebater wrote: »

So you think 'whitey' is dangerous. Yet you moved to one of the most 'whitey' country's in the world. That's hilarious.

This is so often the case with these types. Tim Wise is a perfect example. He makes a very profitable living trouping around attacking white people and yet where he lives is an affluent area of Nashville...97% white

ohnonotgmail · 28-04-2015 04:09PM

DocQismyJesus wrote: »

I live in Ireland now. Tbh most of you on this thread are beyond help- I suggest you read about the status of Asians in the South Africa apartheid structure it may help you understand what I'm getting at.

You will have to explain this. Asians (those not indian, japanese, taiwanese or korean that is) were classified as coloured under apartheid and were therefore lesser than whites.

MathDebater · 28-04-2015 04:29PM

Amazingfun wrote: »

This is so often the case with these types. Tim Wise is a perfect example. He makes a very profitable living trouping around attacking white people and yet where he lives is an affluent area of Nashville...97% white

It's as hilarious as it's hypocritical.

'Whitey is dangerous' - moves to Ireland. Poor chap must be posting from under his leaba.

DocQismyJesus · 28-04-2015 04:39PM

MathDebater wrote: »

It's as hilarious as it's hypocritical.

'Whitey is dangerous' - moves to Ireland. Poor chap must be posting from under his leaba.

If I hadn't fallen in love with an Irish girl and had kids I reckon I'd be living in a fortified compound near Woody Creek Colorado

DocQismyJesus · 28-04-2015 04:39PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

You will have to explain this. Asians (those not indian, japanese, taiwanese or korean that is) were classified as coloured under apartheid and were therefore lesser than whites.

That actually makes my point

DocQismyJesus · 28-04-2015 04:41PM

There's a couple of you here who would bemoan the loss of General Custer but not know or mention Wounded Knee as a reason why.

All I'm asking is you ask why things happen... If you brutalise people they will become brutal/ history has shown it time and again. V

ohnonotgmail · 28-04-2015 04:42PM

DocQismyJesus wrote: »

That actually makes my point

how so? you tried to say that asians were honorary whites. that shows the opposite.

MathDebater · 28-04-2015 04:43PM

DocQismyJesus wrote: »

If I hadn't fallen in love with an Irish girl and had kids I reckon I'd be living in a fortified compound near Woody Creek Colorado

Is your wife a 'dangerous whitey'?

DocQismyJesus · 28-04-2015 04:52PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

how so? you tried to say that asians were honorary whites. that shows the opposite.

Sorry? According to f'd up Apartheid logic at least a billion Asians were considered white. Ergo in our racists friend's equally f'd up logic it is entirely possible he/she considers the condemned Aussies "white"

Now if you will excuse me I'm off to silently weep for the white South Africans who played absolutely no part in creating that violent cauldron that exists today...

DocQismyJesus · 28-04-2015 04:53PM

MathDebater wrote: »

Is your wife a 'dangerous whitey'?

Depends what side of the bed she wakes up on

ohnonotgmail · 28-04-2015 04:56PM

DocQismyJesus wrote: »

Sorry? According to f'd up Apartheid logic at least a billion Asians were considered white. Ergo in our racists friend's equally f'd up logic it is entirely possible he/she considers the condemned Aussies "white"

Now if you will excuse me I'm off to silently weep for the white South Africans who played absolutely no part in creating that violent cauldron that exists today...

according to f'ed up apartheid logic most asians were considered colored or indian. the only ones considered white were japanese, taiwanese and koreans. and they made up a very small percentage of asians.

Yet another death happens in police custody: Freddy Gray

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