Yet another death happens in police custody: Freddy Gray

Nodin · 27-04-2015 10:50PM

Hans Bricks wrote: »

Yeah ... good luck with the sympathy drive lads :rolleyes: .....

Why, is that yer man doing the bonnet dance (a well known death penalty crime in Baltimore)?

Peter Anthony · 27-04-2015 10:51PM

crockholm wrote: »

Yet Another "black man din do nuffin" thread from our resident angry black woman.Posts a couple of links without giving her veiw and just sits back.Other mods have been known to call this sort of behaviour "agenda pushing".

Bear in mind the same OP backed De'Marquise Elkins,who shot and killed a White toddler in his stroller as part of a robbery,to the hilt,claiming that White women often invent these stories and blame black men for it- as soon as Elkins was found guilty,we didn't hear from her on the thread again.

Just another circlejerk for the OP, Nodin and others to play the victim and praise the "oppressed" minority, praising those who engage in criminal activity.

The usual agenda driven stuff, helpfully enabled by the Boards.ie mods. Given the make up of this website these days thats no surprise.

Hans Bricks · 27-04-2015 10:56PM

Nodin wrote: »

Why, is that yer man doing the bonnet dance (a well known death penalty crime in Baltimore)?

huh ?

bb1234567 · 27-04-2015 10:57PM

Killer Wench wrote: »

He had an arrest record? So does Charlie Sheen, Robert Downey, Jr, and Sean Penn but I don't see them lying dead in a casket for their past crimes.

Regardless of the crimes he committed, it does not warrant his death in the hands of police custody.

Obviously, its just much easier to sympathise with an innocent victim.

galljga1 · 27-04-2015 10:58PM

Nodin wrote: »

You seem to be endeavouring to say something in as oblique a manner as possible. Why is this? Why can't you just come out with it?

O.K. Let me try and be as direct as possible:
I have absolutely no sympathy for this guy or any other person of his 'ilk'.

The same applies to the assholes who are rioting.

My name is URL · 27-04-2015 10:58PM

Peter Anthony wrote: »

The likes of you, always looking for something to be offended by and play the victim, to excuse criminality.

hahaha

Says the guy that launches himself head long into threads like this with a pre-scripted rant about the loony left and how they persecute / silence you

You might want to take a look at yourself before talking about others 'playing the victim'

There are few on here that sound as affected as yourself and a few others who have posted similar views.

whupdedo · 27-04-2015 10:59PM

Fcuk him , looking at his past record , he won't be any great loss in the land of the free , murica

Nodin · 27-04-2015 11:00PM

galljga1 wrote: »

O.K. Let me try and be as direct as possible:
I have absolutely no sympathy for this guy or any other person of his 'ilk'.

The same applies to the assholes who are rioting.

So you prefer the death sentence for most offences, without the hassle of a trial. So noted, ty.

Killer Wench · 27-04-2015 11:00PM

What's particularly complex about this situation is that Baltimore is led by a black female mayor and a black male police commissioner. There are more blacks within the ranks of the police force compared to the other stories.

For those of you who may remember from watching The Wire, many young black men have criminal records which exclude them from gaining respectable employment. If they are young and with a family, they will do what they feel is necessary to earn money for their family. That means an on-going cycle of criminality.

When you look at the livestreams, you don't see grocery stores. You see corner stores. You don't see banks. You see payday loan franchises. These are neighborhoods where there aren't many opportunities for the come up.

Killer Wench · 27-04-2015 11:02PM

The_Valeyard wrote: »

'RT Livestream'

RT is just as bad as FoxNews. I'd be very careful or trusting them as a reliable news source. They are extremely biased.

They are truly just livestreaming. A helicopter from above and a cameraman on the ground. Contrast that with KTVU livestream which has a reporter reporting on the events. I've heard this reporter say, "Look at them, you know they are going straight for the drugs" when commenting on the destruction and looting of a CVS drug store.

ETA the KTVU livestream: http://www.ktvu.com/category/299377/ktvu-livestream-no2

Peter Anthony · 27-04-2015 11:02PM

My name is URL wrote: »

hahaha

Says the guy that launches himself head long into threads like this with a pre-scripted rant about the loony left and how they persecute / silence you

You might want to take a look at yourself before talking about others 'playing the victim'

There are few on here that sound as affected as yourself and a few others who have posted similar views.

Oh look, another moral guardian of the "oppressed". With 60k posts between you and Nodin, maybe its time yous started a blog.

fedor.2. · 27-04-2015 11:04PM

Killer Wench wrote: »

What's particularly complex about this situation is that Baltimore is led by a black female mayor and a black male police commissioner. There are more blacks within the ranks of the police force compared to the other stories.

For those of you who may remember from watching The Wire, many young black men have criminal records which exclude them from gaining respectable employment. If they are young and with a family, they will do what they feel is necessary to earn money for their family. That means an on-going cycle of criminality.

When you look at the livestreams, you don't see grocery stores. You see corner stores. You don't see banks. You see payday loan franchises. These are neighborhoods where there aren't many opportunities for the come up.

Hang on, I'll tune up the violin

Killer Wench · 27-04-2015 11:04PM

fedor.2. wrote: »

Hang on, I'll tune up the violin

Play it long and play it right. It's gonna be a long year.

galljga1 · 27-04-2015 11:05PM

Nodin wrote: »

So you prefer the death sentence for most offences, without the hassle of a trial. So noted, ty.

Three strikes and you're out.
Saves a lot of money and hassle.

Smiles35 · 27-04-2015 11:05PM

Killer Wench wrote: »

For those of you who may remember from watching The Wire, many young black men have criminal records which exclude them from gaining respectable employment. If they are young and with a family, they will do what they feel is necessary to earn money for their family. That means an on-going cycle of criminality.

Social welfare not enough?

MathDebater · 27-04-2015 11:06PM

Killer Wench wrote: »

What's particularly complex about this situation is that Baltimore is led by a black female mayor and a black male police commissioner. There are more blacks within the ranks of the police force compared to the other stories.

The mayor decided to give the rioters a 'space to destroy'.

What no one expected is what Baltimore Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake admitted in a press conference on Sunday: that she asked the Baltimore Police Department to “give those who wished to destroy space to do that.”

We work very hard to keep that balance [between free speech and destructive elements], and to put ourselves in the best position to de-escalate,” she said.

Overall, Baltimore police said 34 arrests were made during Saturday’s main demonstration, and six officers were allegedly injured.

Several downtown storefronts were smashed, and some police cars were damaged.

But overall, the most of the damage was cosmetic, and it might not cost the city or property owners a fortune to fix. Either that, or it might have been worth the calculation from city officials to sacrifice a little public property for the sake of allowing protesters to vent their anger, hopefully quelling unrest in the long run.

http://fusion.net/story/126587/the-odd-tactic-of-giving-baltimore-protesters-space-to-destroy-property/

Genius! What could go wrong?

My name is URL · 27-04-2015 11:07PM

Peter Anthony wrote: »

Oh look, another moral guardian of the "oppressed". With 60k posts between you and Nodin, maybe its time yous started a blog.

I have no interest in blogging but thanks for the suggestion

If you have an issue with how often someone takes part in a discussion on a discussion forum, perhaps it's you that should look into alternatives to discussion forums.

You still sound like a persecuted delicate little flower btw. Those evil feminist communists and Guardian readers oppressing you at every turn. Poor mite =(

Peter Anthony · 27-04-2015 11:07PM

Killer Wench wrote: »

What's particularly complex about this situation is that Baltimore is led by a black female mayor and a black male police commissioner. There are more blacks within the ranks of the police force compared to the other stories.

Interesting, it will be harder for you and co the blame to police this time so. But I'm sure you'll manage to.

Surely this must be the fault of "the white man". I mean isn't he to blame for all your problems in life? Hmmm will be hard since he isnt involved here, I'm sure he will be squeezed in somewhere.

Chijj · 27-04-2015 11:09PM

Is there any facts as to how his death came to be ?

Could there be a credible reason as to how he died? Was he resisting arrest ?

A lot of people on both sides jump to conclusions of who's innocent way too quickly.

The guy in question did not seem to be a Saint by any stretch but most like didnt deserve to die in this way, if only it was in America as he would no doubt still be in prison for his litany of offences........oh wait.

Peter Anthony · 27-04-2015 11:11PM

fedor.2. wrote: »

Hang on, I'll tune up the violin

:pac:

We should all hold hands around the Spire tonight in a show of solidarity.

Hans Bricks · 27-04-2015 11:13PM

MathDebater wrote: »

The mayor decided to give the rioters a 'space to destroy'.

http://fusion.net/story/126587/the-odd-tactic-of-giving-baltimore-protesters-space-to-destroy-property/

Genius! What could go wrong?

What a fucking moron. Dead career criminal manages to whip up some knuckle dragging behaviour among his homies from beyond the grave and the mayor gives them downtown as a playground to do it in. :pac:

Do they have specific, seated spectator areas in Baltimore to witness such a comedy sketch ?

Killer Wench · 27-04-2015 11:13PM

Chijj wrote: »

Is there any facts as to how his death came to be ?

.

What's concerning is that he was put into the back of the police van but was not properly secured. It's been reported that this was quite commonly used as a way of "punishing" those in custody. If he had an original injury to his spine from his take-down (in the video, he is seen being dragged by the police) then the bouncing around in the back of the van would have made the injury worse.

Killer Wench · 27-04-2015 11:17PM

Noblong wrote: »

Social welfare not enough?

http://www.dol.gov/wb/info_about_wb/regions/tanfmd.htm

If you have been convicted of a crime, you must do everything the court orders or you cannot receive TCA.
You cannot get TCA if you:

1) run away from punishment or jail;

2) violate probation or parole;

3) have been convicted of welfare fraud in Maryland or any other state;

4) are convicted of a drug felony that occurred on or after August 22, 1996.

Your children may get welfare even if your check is stopped because of a crime.

fedor.2. · 27-04-2015 11:19PM

Oh man, that Mayor made me laugh. Baltimore, which is a right sh1thole anyway, is in safe hands.

Chijj · 27-04-2015 11:19PM

Killer Wench wrote: »

What's concerning is that he was put into the back of the police van but was not properly secured. It's been reported that this was quite commonly used as a way of "punishing" those in custody. If he had an original injury to his spine from his take-down (in the video, he is seen being dragged by the police) then the bouncing around in the back of the van would have made the injury worse.

I see, is there any questions over wrongful arrest?

If not it seems like a mistake, they didnt mean to kill the guy and realistically if the police have to forcibly take you down and drag you to a van you deserve to be roughed up a little bit in my opinion.

That obviously does not condone his death but it's certainly not as sinister as some might suggest.

The Burgerbar · 27-04-2015 11:21PM

Noblong wrote: »

Social welfare not enough?

It's not like here where they even pay the lawyer to defend the troublemakers.

Smiles35 · 27-04-2015 11:23PM

Killer Wench wrote: »

http://www.dol.gov/wb/info_about_wb/regions/tanfmd.htm

That's pretty harsh.

fedor.2. · 27-04-2015 11:25PM

Noblong wrote: »

That's pretty harsh.

But fair

Killer Wench · 27-04-2015 11:28PM

Chijj wrote: »

I see, is there any questions over wrongful arrest?

If not it seems like a mistake, they didnt mean to kill the guy and realistically if the police have to forcibly take you down and drag you to a van you deserve to be roughed up a little bit in my opinion.

That obviously does not condone his death but it's certainly not as sinister as some might suggest.

There are still many questions that are unanswered. From what I understand, he ran when he saw the police. The police weren't looking for him, but when someone runs, they are going to think they are running for a reason.

Here's the video of his arrest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlsvUAst2UQ

Another video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YV0EtkWyno

Whosthis · 27-04-2015 11:28PM

fedor.2. wrote: »

But fair

Like the Russian Police.

Yet another death happens in police custody: Freddy Gray

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