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How will you vote in the Marriage Equality referendum? Mod Note Post 1

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  • #6152
    Blahblah2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 397 ✭✭Blahblah2012


    smash wrote: »
    No.... but it's still a car. In the same way 2 gay men can still be married.

    Referring to them both as cars is the same as comparing gays and straights as being human..so you're missing the point


  • #6153
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Blahblah2012 wrote: »
    Referring to them both as cars is the same as comparing gays and straights as being human..so you're missing the point

    No, you're missing the point. Voting no to this referendum will in no way help your cause.


  • #6154
    Blahblah2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 397 ✭✭Blahblah2012


    eviltwin wrote: »
    A car is a car to me but we're not talking about cars.

    You started your posts saying fathers rights were being ignored so you were voting no almost like you felt it was unfair this issue was taking precedence and I can understand that to a point.

    It is of course taking precedence...and without doubt it's about buying votes

    eviltwin wrote: »
    Now your just making the gay marriage is different argument, of course it's different, it's two people of the same sex. Does that make it any less valid or important? No.

    No..but it needs to be defined as what it is..different


  • #6155
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Blahblah2012 wrote: »
    It is of course taking precedence...and without doubt it's about buying votes

    The law reform commission have already put forward suggested adjustments for laws to improve father's rights. This referendum is nothing to do with it so don't muddy the waters and deny someone a right just because of your circumstances.
    Blahblah2012 wrote: »
    No..but it needs to be defined as what it is..different
    No it doesn't though. Because it in no way effects anyone in a negative way. Or in a way that requires a need for it to be classified as different, or taboo.


  • #6156
    Blahblah2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 397 ✭✭Blahblah2012


    smash wrote: »
    The law reform commission have already put forward suggested adjustments for laws to improve father's rights. This referendum is nothing to do with it so don't muddy the waters and deny someone a right just because of your circumstances.

    Adjustments...Unfortunately these adjustments are a load of balls..the laws treatment of fathers is an abuse in itself and will be exposed in due course.

    smash wrote: »
    No it doesn't though. Because it in no way effects anyone in a negative way. Or in a way that requires a need for it to be different, or taboo.

    What is the issue with being defined? Are you not proud to be gay?


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  • #6157
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Blahblah2012 wrote: »
    Adjustments...Unfortunately these adjustments are a load of balls..the laws treatment of fathers is an abuse in itself and will be exposed in due course.




    What is the issue with being defined? Are you not proud to be gay?

    I'm a separated father and the child of a lesbian couple. Please stop trolling or trying to mix these two very different topics, they have nothing to do with each other and are both extremely important.

    A referendum is not needed to improve fathers rights, that can be done through legislation.


  • #6158
    Blahblah2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 397 ✭✭Blahblah2012


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    I'm a separated father and the child of a lesbian couple. Please stop trolling or trying to mix these two very different topics, they have nothing to do with each other and are both extremely important.

    A referendum is not needed to improve fathers rights, that can be done through legislation.

    As I said before...deal with equality for one father...before you look at two


  • #6159
    Ave Sodalis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    Blahblah2012 wrote: »
    As I said before...deal with equality for one father...before you look at two

    That isn't what's on the table though. What's on the table is SSM referendum, not father's rights. That is what is being voted on. Now I fully support father's rights but that's not what I'm voting on.


  • #6160
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Blahblah2012 wrote: »
    Adjustments...Unfortunately these adjustments are a load of balls..the laws treatment of fathers is an abuse in itself and will be exposed in due course.
    They're not a load of balls at all. How can it be balls to push for the law to recognise an unmarried father as a legal guardian? For someone that's pushing an agenda, you might want to read up a bit. You're diluting the thread completely.
    Blahblah2012 wrote: »
    What is the issue with being defined? Are you not proud to be gay?
    I'm not gay. You don't have to be gay to vote yes!


  • #6161
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Blahblah2012 wrote: »
    As I said before...deal with equality for one father...before you look at two

    I read what you said before, and I 100% agree that Fathers Rights in Ireland need to be changed massively, but the issues are completely unrelated. You know this.


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  • #6162
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Blahblah2012 wrote: »
    As I said before...deal with equality for one father...before you look at two

    We're not voting for fathers, or mother or parents. We're voting on marriage. Parental rights have nothing to do with this referendum.


  • #6163
    Blahblah2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 397 ✭✭Blahblah2012


    sup_dude wrote: »
    That isn't what's on the table though. What's on the table is SSM referendum, not father's rights. That is what is being voted on. Now I fully support father's rights but that's not what I'm voting on.

    So a gay couple will have less rights than a lesbian couple...If the existing laws and regime continues


  • #6164
    Ave Sodalis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    Blahblah2012 wrote: »
    So a gay couple will have less rights than a lesbian couple...If the existing laws and regime continues

    If they do, then they can fight that battle afterwards.


  • #6165
    bodice ripper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    Blahblah2012 wrote: »
    As I said before...deal with equality for one father...before you look at two

    You can keep saying it, it still won't be related to the referendum at hand.


  • #6166
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Blahblah2012 wrote: »
    So a gay couple will have less rights than a lesbian couple...If the existing laws and regime continues

    What?

    Also, you know a lesbian couple ARE a gay couple, right?


  • #6167
    Blahblah2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 397 ✭✭Blahblah2012


    smash wrote: »
    They're not a load of balls at all. How can it be balls to push for the law to recognise an unmarried father as a legal guardian? For someone that's pushing an agenda, you might want to read up a bit. You're diluting the thread completely.

    I went to court and got my guardianship...which is pretty much not worth the paper it's written on.


    smash wrote: »
    I'm not gay. You don't have to be gay to vote yes!

    My mistake. Apologies.


  • #6168
    Blahblah2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 397 ✭✭Blahblah2012


    smash wrote: »
    What?

    Also, you know a lesbian couple ARE a gay couple, right?

    Trying to distinguish between a male and female gay couple...clever clogs


  • #6169
    Blahblah2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 397 ✭✭Blahblah2012


    smash wrote: »
    We're not voting for fathers, or mother or parents. We're voting on marriage. Parental rights have nothing to do with this referendum.

    It's all linked...If you choose to ignore it...that's your issue


  • #6170
    bodice ripper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    Blahblah2012 wrote: »
    It's all linked...If you choose to ignore it...that's your issue

    It's not linked, you are just looking to take a hostage.


  • #6171
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Blahblah2012 wrote: »
    Trying to distinguish between a male and female gay couple...clever clogs

    But there is no reason to distinguish. The same way there's no reason to distinguish between gay and straight couple. A gay female couple won't have more legal rights than a gay male couple when it comes to children either. I don't know where you're getting your information from, but it's misguided. If anything, the law will change to recognise parental rights instead of mothers/fathers rights. Which will benefit you!


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  • #6172
    Ave Sodalis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    Blahblah2012 wrote: »
    It's all linked...If you choose to ignore it...that's your issue

    Whether or not it's linked, it's irrelevant to this referendum. The referendum is asking whether or not a same sex couple should be allowed to marry. It's not asking about father's rights because that's assuming every couple want children. If there's an issue, then it can be dealt with seperately.


  • #6173
    Blahblah2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 397 ✭✭Blahblah2012


    bodice ripper wrote: »
    It's not linked, you are just looking to take a hostage.

    That wouldn't be a past time of mine.. BODICE RIPPER 😆


  • #6174
    humanji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    MOD: Folks, I've said it before and I'll most likely be saying it again and again - This thread is about the SSM Referendum. If you want to campaign for father's rights, off you go and do it. Don't drag this thread off topic by rambling about it, or by arguing about it.


  • #6175
    Blahblah2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 397 ✭✭Blahblah2012


    smash wrote: »
    But there is no reason to distinguish. The same way there's no reason to distinguish between gay and straight couple. A gay female couple won't have more legal rights than a gay male couple when it comes to children either. I don't know where you're getting your information from, but it's misguided. If anything, the law will change to recognise parental rights instead of mothers/fathers rights. Which will benefit you!

    When was the last time you were up in the courts? That ain't changing any time soon.

    And considering fathers are second class citizens up there...Unless there's a new rule for gay men that excludes them from the treatment that single fathers receive. ..


  • #6176
    marienbad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭marienbad


    Blahblah2012 wrote: »
    When was the last time you were up in the courts? That ain't changing any time soon.

    And considering fathers are second class citizens up there...Unless there's a new rule for gay men that excludes them from the treatment that single fathers receive. ..

    All the more reason to vote yes , the more people potentially in the same boat as you the better for your cause.


  • #6177
    Sofiztikated
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    Blahblah2012 wrote: »
    So a gay couple will have less rights than a lesbian couple...If the existing laws and regime continues

    If the status quo continues, then fathers will still have less rights than mothers, and gay couples will still have less rights than straight couples.

    Sort out the issue that is RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU. Yes, your issue is important to you, but that is currently not what is up for grabs.


  • #6178
    Blahblah2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 397 ✭✭Blahblah2012


    marienbad wrote: »
    All the more reason to vote yes , the more people potentially in the same boat as you the better for your cause.

    Yes.. but call it gay marriage. ..A union of people that love each other


  • #6179
    Blahblah2012
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 397 ✭✭Blahblah2012


    Sofiztikated wrote: »
    If the status quo continues, then fathers will still have less rights than mothers, and gay couples will still have less rights than straight couples.

    Sort out the issue that is RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU. Yes, your issue is important to you, but that is currently not what is up for grabs.

    No..lesbian couples will have greater rights


  • #6180
    Sofiztikated
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    Blahblah2012 wrote: »
    Yes.. but call it gay marriage. ..A union of people that love each other

    Oh cool, I can't wait to tell my wife that we're gay married.

    :pac: I might get to do her up the pooper later!


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  • #6181
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Blahblah2012 wrote: »
    When was the last time you were up in the courts? That ain't changing any time soon.

    And considering fathers are second class citizens up there...Unless there's a new rule for gay men that excludes them from the treatment that single fathers receive. ..

    I'm not interested in going into my own circumstances, but if you want to discuss the issues that you face I'd suggest opening your own thread maybe in the gentlemen's club and stop derailing this thread.


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