Death is forever

The Princess Bride · 24-04-2015 03:48PM

"No one wants to die.
Even people who want to go to heaven don't want to die to get there.And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it.
And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life.
It is Life's change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new."

Steve Jobs.

Call Me Jimmy · 24-04-2015 03:50PM

Ok here it is OP

There's two ends of a spectrum

Things The Universe Wants You To Do (incentives)

and

Things The Universe Doesn't Want You To Do (disincentives)

The Universe sends you a transmission when you do something it wants that translates to a very nice feeling for you. It does the opposite when you go against its will.

Over time we've realised it sends the best, most stable and long lasting transmissions when thinking in terms of the group and not the individual.

Good luck

murpho999 · 24-04-2015 03:54PM

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

Ok here it is OP

There's two ends of a spectrum

Things The Universe Wants You To Do (incentives)

and

Things The Universe Doesn't Want You To Do (disincentives)

The Universe sends you a transmission when you do something it wants that translates to a very nice feeling for you. It does the opposite when you go against its will.

Over time we've realised it sends the best, most stable and long lasting transmissions when thinking in terms of the group and not the individual.

Good luck

What is this?

Spirituality/Life Coaching bunkum?

Call Me Jimmy · 24-04-2015 03:56PM

I was being facetious, but where did you get spiritual?

endacl · 24-04-2015 04:00PM

KomradeBishop wrote: »

I never understood people having an 'existential crisis' like this - philosophizing over death or the purpose of life, really makes some people land with their head up their arse somehow.

It seems blindingly obvious that there is no ultimate point/purpose to life, and that you just make up your own purpose based on your personal values/principles, and try to live your life as enjoyably as you can, while sticking to those values/principles.

There you go, simples - can stop wasting time pondering an unanswerable question now, and just get on with living.

I was right with you till you said 'simples'. That's one of the words that negates any point made, however valid.

:mad:

endacl · 24-04-2015 04:02PM

deathisforever wrote: »

Ok, what is the point being here? Do you ever ask your self that, late at night when you finally have to think? We're here to give life, to what, is only going to eventually die too? I am going to die. WE ARE GOING TO DIE. Someday. Could be tomorrow, maybe in 60 years time. We don't know. But we do know that this IS going to happen to us. YES IT WILL. You will be gone like all the people you know. Sorry if this upsets anyone... We will be in the rotten grave, rotting away ...WE WILL.

Why is 'committing' suicide so judged upon We're only gonna die anyways

We're alive for 80-100 years. I've often asked myself, would I like to like forever? No i'd say. Thats a long time. But then isn't it better than not living? At least your doing things. Well 80-100 years is a REALLY short time if you think about it, in the grand scheme of things. We will be dead forever. Nothing. Nothing. Nobody will remember us. Everyone we know now, they will be forgotten too and these will be this completely new people. We will be dead forever and forever doing nothing. Seeing nothing. Feeling nothing. This is so scary

Why do people worry so much about exams and ****e. I dont want children only for them to realise their own dreaded mortality. Ofc I am happy to live SOMETHING than nothing but i'm not sure we can call life a 'grateful' thing at all. Maybe only if u have a life already

NIMAN · 24-04-2015 04:03PM

Just browsing this thread makes me remember the atheist in another forum here whose major concern after his life was not getting a Catholic funeral.

If you are a true atheist and believe there is nothing once you die, why would you spend valuable time in your only life worrying about your image or street cred once you're gone?

endacl · 24-04-2015 04:04PM

NIMAN wrote: »

Just browsing this thread makes me remember the atheist in another forum here whose major concern after his life was not getting a Catholic funeral.

If you are a true atheist and believe there is nothing once you die, why would you spend valuable time in your only life worrying about your image or street cred once you're gone?

A question of respect, I'd imagine.

job seeker · 24-04-2015 04:04PM

I didn't read much of the OP.

But I believe we all are put on this earth, by a superior (be it god or what ever you want) to carry out certain "tasks". Once you have these tasks complete you die. Be it a car accident. or whatever..

endacl · 24-04-2015 04:05PM

job seeker wrote: »

I didn't read much of the OP.

But I believe we all are put on this earth, by a superior (be it god or what ever you want) to carry out certain "tasks". Once you have these tasks complete you die. Be it a car accident. or whatever..

Hmmmm.....

Sudden infant death.....?

scouttio · 24-04-2015 04:06PM

Death makes life worth living

endacl · 24-04-2015 04:08PM

scouttio wrote: »

Death makes life worth living

Nah. Life makes life worth living. Death only lends a sense of perspective.

Waitsian · 24-04-2015 04:09PM

Macavity. wrote:

How many of you can even remember your great-grandparents first name's? That's how quickly you are forgotten.

Samuel, Isabella, Thomas, Mary, James, Mary, John, Sarah Anne. :-)

Johngoose · 24-04-2015 04:10PM

Not everybody is totally forgotten after they die.A lot of great people are remembered for a long time after they die. I suppose it's up to each individual to make their mark on the world and make their lives as pleasant as possible.

Macavity. · 24-04-2015 04:11PM

mod9maple wrote: »

Samuel, Isabella, Thomas, Mary, James, Mary, John, Sarah Anne. :-)

Did you have to check though? I honestly don't know any of mine's.

job seeker · 24-04-2015 04:11PM

endacl wrote: »

Hmmmm.....

Sudden infant death.....?

Id call that tragedy, which does happen..

You have me stumped on this one...

NIMAN · 24-04-2015 04:14PM

Of course we will be remembered for a certain length of time, be it by siblings, children, grandchildren, but there does come a time when there will be no-one living who remembers you living, in which case you are only a name on records or a face in a photo.

Only positive is that although I have no video evidence of who my great grandparents were, what they sounded like etc, with current technology there might be video of me around for many hundreds of years. Scary thought that!

ceadaoin. · 24-04-2015 04:16PM

You were 'dead' for billions of years before you were alive and it didn't bother you. There is no point worrying about something that is inevitable for every single being on this planet, you are no different from the billions before you, just try to enjoy your time here.

IamNotNumber · 24-04-2015 04:20PM

Im gonna live forever like these lads

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_2mWhfOhGU

Seanachai · 24-04-2015 04:21PM

NIMAN wrote: »

Of course we will be remembered for a certain length of time, be it by siblings, children, grandchildren, but there does come a time when there will be no-one living who remembers you living, in which case you are only a name on records or a face in a photo.

Only positive is that although I have no video evidence of who my great grandparents were, what they sounded like etc, with current technology there might be video of me around for many hundreds of years. Scary thought that!

We lost a lot when we were Christianised in the sense of the connection to the ancestors that a lot of native cultures still have. To them ( and me ) it's a living connection but if you're not that way inclined I can understand how that would mean nothing to you, before you ask I don't have any scientific evidence for this. It's still evident in the Irish church as it was hard to stamp some things out ( they had to leave us with little concessions ), in parts of rural Ireland especially your lineage still matters a lot.

I also believe in genetic memory and some form of transference, culture and ideas are transferred through the environment and create a continuity but people can walk and speak just like their grandparent without even having met them.

_Brian · 24-04-2015 04:21PM

Why does there have to be a point to life ??

Why cant we take it for what it is, a brief fleeting existence in this world..

We try to get out and about, experience as much of the natural world around us.. Education/work isn't pointless as it enables you to have the level of life you want..
Some are happy to sherk education and be on the scratcher all their lives, rarely having money to experience different places, **** that, I'm only on this soil for a short while, I want to get about a bit and see what I can, experience it with my kids.

murpho999 · 24-04-2015 04:24PM

kneemos wrote: »

Most people believe death is the beginning of something much better than life.
You have to accentuate the positive and consider what a glorious experience life is.

I really don't think most believe that.

For me death is the end, simple as that.

24-04-2015 04:25PM

KomradeBishop wrote: »

It seems blindingly obvious that there is no ultimate point/purpose to life, and that you just make up your own purpose based on your personal values/principles, and try to live your life as enjoyably as you can, while sticking to those values/principles.

Maybe thats the point/purpose of life :eek:

Geniass · 24-04-2015 04:27PM

Even the likes of Hitler, Jesus (no comparison just to emphasise the point), he who can't be drawn (what's his name :pac:), Julius Caesar and Bertie Ahern (maybe I should have put him after Hitler) will one day be forgotten.

But, that's missing the point of life. Enjoy it while you can.

cloud493 · 24-04-2015 04:41PM

I had a good innings sure.

You'll die if you worry, you'll die if you don't worry. So why worry?

NIMAN · 24-04-2015 04:47PM

Seanachai wrote: »

I also believe in genetic memory and some form of transference, culture and ideas are transferred through the environment and create a continuity but people can walk and speak just like their grandparent without even having met them.

You make this sound like a kinda spiritual or similar phenomenon when in fact it's just plain old genetics.

Of course dna is passed on between generations, and this is why you can end up looking like your grandparents, or talking like them or having some of their mannerisms. There is some of them in your dna. It's nothing magical.

Turtyturd · 24-04-2015 04:52PM

Death is our one true birthright OP, embrace it.

sbsquarepants · 24-04-2015 04:53PM

Deleted User wrote: »

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Waitsian · 24-04-2015 04:56PM

Macavity. wrote:

Did you have to check though? I honestly don't know any of mine's.

No they're imprinted on my brain. Although I do have to admit I'm a genealogist so I'm not typical of most people. Your point is a good one.

strobe · 24-04-2015 05:12PM

There is no justification for life, but also no reason not to live.

However only the living get to lick mint chocolate ice-cream off their lovers' erect nipples.

Death is forever

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