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Death is forever

  • 24-04-2015 1:47pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1


    Ok, what is the point being here? Do you ever ask your self that, late at night when you finally have to think? We're here to give life, to what, is only going to eventually die too? I am going to die. WE ARE GOING TO DIE. Someday. Could be tomorrow, maybe in 60 years time. We don't know. But we do know that this IS going to happen to us. YES IT WILL. You will be gone like all the people you know. Sorry if this upsets anyone... We will be in the rotten grave, rotting away ...WE WILL.

    Why is 'committing' suicide so judged upon We're only gonna die anyways

    We're alive for 80-100 years. I've often asked myself, would I like to like forever? No i'd say. Thats a long time. But then isn't it better than not living? At least your doing things. Well 80-100 years is a REALLY short time if you think about it, in the grand scheme of things. We will be dead forever. Nothing. Nothing. Nobody will remember us. Everyone we know now, they will be forgotten too and these will be this completely new people. We will be dead forever and forever doing nothing. Seeing nothing. Feeling nothing. This is so scary

    Why do people worry so much about exams and ****e. I dont want children only for them to realise their own dreaded mortality. Ofc I am happy to live SOMETHING than nothing but i'm not sure we can call life a 'grateful' thing at all. Maybe only if u have a life already


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭KungPao


    Well, you would say that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Well aren't you a ray of sunshine?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭Your Superior


    Someone needs hug and to stop listening to My Chemical Romance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭nelly17


    That would be ann Ecumenical matter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭KungPao


    Someone needs hug and to stop listening to My Chemical Romance.
    But they really speak to him, man. You wouldn't understand.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,477 ✭✭✭✭Knex*


    News just in: We're all going to die.

    Death is what makes life beautiful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,434 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Will you have a customised user name for any topic you bring up? :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    KungPao wrote: »
    But they really speak to him, man. You wouldn't understand.

    Stop being so commercial.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭valoren


    You realise that you're going to struggle in your exams.

    Don't worry. The repeats will be in August.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭Macavity.


    How many of you can even remember your great-grandparents first name's? That's how quickly you are forgotten.


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  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Knex. wrote: »

    Death is what makes life beautiful.

    I like it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭MonkeyTennis


    and all because the sun went in today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭traprunner




    'Cause we're all gonna die
    I can't wait 'till you die
    All protestants, catholics and orthadox jews
    You dumb scientologists
    And guys who bend spoons
    And buddhists, sort of
    And athiests too
    All you wackjob believers
    Nobody's immune
    You will die


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,981 ✭✭✭KomradeBishop


    I never understood people having an 'existential crisis' like this - philosophizing over death or the purpose of life, really makes some people land with their head up their arse somehow.

    It seems blindingly obvious that there is no ultimate point/purpose to life, and that you just make up your own purpose based on your personal values/principles, and try to live your life as enjoyably as you can, while sticking to those values/principles.

    There you go, simples - can stop wasting time pondering an unanswerable question now, and just get on with living.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭Macavity.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,094 ✭✭✭wretcheddomain


    Why do people worry so much about exams and ****e.

    Why are you worrying about this? :rolleyes:

    Second, if it wasn't for death within the circle of life, you would not be here writing a worrisome message about other people being worried about things you don't deem to be worrisome.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Ok, what is the point being here?

    To get money and fúck bitches :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,196 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Were it not for the dark, you wouldn't appreciate the light, Grasshopper. Now get out there and have some fun. :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6 Chipolor


    The purpose of life is to enjoy it as much as you can, eat nice food, ride beautiful women, go on adventures etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,037 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Open the bedroom curtains and let some light in


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    It's Friday, the sun is shining, there is a cold beer on my table, 1 hour until I go home. Say what you want about death, but I'll be too busy living to think about it until Monday morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,196 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    jester77 wrote: »
    It's Friday, the sun is shining, there is a cold beer on my table, 1 hour until I go home. Say what you want about death, but I'll be too busy living to think about it until Monday morning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭fizzypish


    Worrying about death is pointless. When you die, you cease to exist and there's no point in worrying about that because when it actually happens you'll be incapable of worrying/suffering it. Or you can believe some fatherly figure will judge you and put you on a fluffy cloud of pleasure if your worthy. Or that if your a dick, you'll be reborn as a banana slug and if your good, maybe a person (Or dung beetle, who said being human was the pinnacle ?!?). I'm rooting for the Buddhists theory but I'm realistically inclined to believe my first point. As for whats the point? There isn't one. We're insignificant, hence all the freedom to do what you want.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,660 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Most people believe death is the beginning of something much better than life.
    You have to accentuate the positive and consider what a glorious experience life is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    I've always quite liked the idea that there is no great meaning or purpose to life, although personally I don't believe that. But if it was true, it would mean failure is irrelevant and who you end up becoming is irrelevant, so you may as well do what you really want to do without worrying about what will happen if you don't manage it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,196 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    kneemos wrote: »
    Most people believe death is the beginning of something much better than life...

    This theory was originally largely spread about by members of an organization who wanted the bulk of the population to shut up and keep whacking the ground with a stick sixteen hours a day in almost impossible poverty while they went about gathering up enormous quantities of wealth. You can certainly see their point, but I'd like to think most of us are little wiser nowadays. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,196 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    "The last thing on my list of things to do is try dying
    If you wanna live forever then you will die trying
    Inevitable like the weather, there's no use in lying,
    Death makes life worth living, so stop crying"

    - Scroobius Pip


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 643 ✭✭✭Geniass


    I dont want children only for them to realise their own dreaded mortality.

    That is thought provoking alright and it is a huge privilege to create life.

    However, you don't need to worry about death when you're dead. It wont bother you.

    In the mean time get the most out of life. For that to happen you need to think strategically. Get your exams and earn a good living (talking like the man, I know!) and enjoy the finer things in life... and travel.

    You can panic about it if you like, but that would be a complete waste of time... Unless you like to panic. If that's the case - go freak yourself out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    We're alive for 80-100 years.

    Lol in your dreams, try 60 - 80 at best for most people and then take into consideration the current generations diet of processed food and indoor lifestyle. Be looking at 50-70 at best.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭fergus1001


    There is no meaning of life. Enjoy it while you have it. Stop listening to depression music


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,656 ✭✭✭✭The Princess Bride


    "No one wants to die.
    Even people who want to go to heaven don't want to die to get there.And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it.
    And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life.
    It is Life's change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new."

    Steve Jobs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Ok here it is OP

    There's two ends of a spectrum

    Things The Universe Wants You To Do (incentives)

    and

    Things The Universe Doesn't Want You To Do (disincentives)

    The Universe sends you a transmission when you do something it wants that translates to a very nice feeling for you. It does the opposite when you go against its will.

    Over time we've realised it sends the best, most stable and long lasting transmissions when thinking in terms of the group and not the individual.


    Good luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,708 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Ok here it is OP

    There's two ends of a spectrum

    Things The Universe Wants You To Do (incentives)

    and

    Things The Universe Doesn't Want You To Do (disincentives)

    The Universe sends you a transmission when you do something it wants that translates to a very nice feeling for you. It does the opposite when you go against its will.

    Over time we've realised it sends the best, most stable and long lasting transmissions when thinking in terms of the group and not the individual.


    Good luck

    What is this?

    Spirituality/Life Coaching bunkum?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    I was being facetious, but where did you get spiritual?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,438 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    I never understood people having an 'existential crisis' like this - philosophizing over death or the purpose of life, really makes some people land with their head up their arse somehow.

    It seems blindingly obvious that there is no ultimate point/purpose to life, and that you just make up your own purpose based on your personal values/principles, and try to live your life as enjoyably as you can, while sticking to those values/principles.

    There you go, simples - can stop wasting time pondering an unanswerable question now, and just get on with living.

    I was right with you till you said 'simples'. That's one of the words that negates any point made, however valid.

    :mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,438 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Ok, what is the point being here? Do you ever ask your self that, late at night when you finally have to think? We're here to give life, to what, is only going to eventually die too? I am going to die. WE ARE GOING TO DIE. Someday. Could be tomorrow, maybe in 60 years time. We don't know. But we do know that this IS going to happen to us. YES IT WILL. You will be gone like all the people you know. Sorry if this upsets anyone... We will be in the rotten grave, rotting away ...WE WILL.

    Why is 'committing' suicide so judged upon We're only gonna die anyways

    We're alive for 80-100 years. I've often asked myself, would I like to like forever? No i'd say. Thats a long time. But then isn't it better than not living? At least your doing things. Well 80-100 years is a REALLY short time if you think about it, in the grand scheme of things. We will be dead forever. Nothing. Nothing. Nobody will remember us. Everyone we know now, they will be forgotten too and these will be this completely new people. We will be dead forever and forever doing nothing. Seeing nothing. Feeling nothing. This is so scary

    Why do people worry so much about exams and ****e. I dont want children only for them to realise their own dreaded mortality. Ofc I am happy to live SOMETHING than nothing but i'm not sure we can call life a 'grateful' thing at all. Maybe only if u have a life already



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,184 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Just browsing this thread makes me remember the atheist in another forum here whose major concern after his life was not getting a Catholic funeral.

    If you are a true atheist and believe there is nothing once you die, why would you spend valuable time in your only life worrying about your image or street cred once you're gone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,438 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Just browsing this thread makes me remember the atheist in another forum here whose major concern after his life was not getting a Catholic funeral.

    If you are a true atheist and believe there is nothing once you die, why would you spend valuable time in your only life worrying about your image or street cred once you're gone?

    A question of respect, I'd imagine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,119 ✭✭✭job seeker


    I didn't read much of the OP.



    But I believe we all are put on this earth, by a superior (be it god or what ever you want) to carry out certain "tasks". Once you have these tasks complete you die. Be it a car accident. or whatever..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,438 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    job seeker wrote: »
    I didn't read much of the OP.



    But I believe we all are put on this earth, by a superior (be it god or what ever you want) to carry out certain "tasks". Once you have these tasks complete you die. Be it a car accident. or whatever..

    Hmmmm.....

    Sudden infant death.....?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 386 ✭✭scouttio


    Death makes life worth living


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,438 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    scouttio wrote: »
    Death makes life worth living
    Nah. Life makes life worth living. Death only lends a sense of perspective.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭Waitsian


    Macavity. wrote:
    How many of you can even remember your great-grandparents first name's? That's how quickly you are forgotten.

    Samuel, Isabella, Thomas, Mary, James, Mary, John, Sarah Anne. :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭Johngoose


    Not everybody is totally forgotten after they die.A lot of great people are remembered for a long time after they die. I suppose it's up to each individual to make their mark on the world and make their lives as pleasant as possible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭Macavity.


    mod9maple wrote: »
    Samuel, Isabella, Thomas, Mary, James, Mary, John, Sarah Anne. :-)

    Did you have to check though? I honestly don't know any of mine's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,119 ✭✭✭job seeker


    endacl wrote: »
    Hmmmm.....

    Sudden infant death.....?

    Id call that tragedy, which does happen..

    You have me stumped on this one...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,184 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Of course we will be remembered for a certain length of time, be it by siblings, children, grandchildren, but there does come a time when there will be no-one living who remembers you living, in which case you are only a name on records or a face in a photo.

    Only positive is that although I have no video evidence of who my great grandparents were, what they sounded like etc, with current technology there might be video of me around for many hundreds of years. Scary thought that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,559 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    You were 'dead' for billions of years before you were alive and it didn't bother you. There is no point worrying about something that is inevitable for every single being on this planet, you are no different from the billions before you, just try to enjoy your time here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 450 ✭✭IamNotNumber


    Im gonna live forever like these lads



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,549 ✭✭✭Seanachai


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Of course we will be remembered for a certain length of time, be it by siblings, children, grandchildren, but there does come a time when there will be no-one living who remembers you living, in which case you are only a name on records or a face in a photo.

    Only positive is that although I have no video evidence of who my great grandparents were, what they sounded like etc, with current technology there might be video of me around for many hundreds of years. Scary thought that!

    We lost a lot when we were Christianised in the sense of the connection to the ancestors that a lot of native cultures still have. To them ( and me ) it's a living connection but if you're not that way inclined I can understand how that would mean nothing to you, before you ask I don't have any scientific evidence for this. It's still evident in the Irish church as it was hard to stamp some things out ( they had to leave us with little concessions ), in parts of rural Ireland especially your lineage still matters a lot.

    I also believe in genetic memory and some form of transference, culture and ideas are transferred through the environment and create a continuity but people can walk and speak just like their grandparent without even having met them.


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