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The process to follow when buying at a mart?

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  • #32
    Kovu
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    Nettleman wrote: »
    Get the impression that mart practices need an overhaul-too loose and needs to be dragged into the 21st century - also, are you entitled to ask to see card of an animal your interested in before they go in the ring?display boards are still a waste of space in some marts with scant details displayed

    Yes & yes. Recommend looking at the card in particular as the infoscience system can have a few glitches that can cause errors in the movement area of the display board.

    Why do you think I got out of them? Some marts are terrified of change :p


  • #33
    I said
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    Nettleman wrote: »
    Get the impression that mart practices need an overhaul-too loose and needs to be dragged into the 21st century - also, are you entitled to ask to see card of an animal your interested in before they go in the ring?display boards are still a waste of space in some marts with scant details displayed

    My local mart gives has a print out on view lot no,age and breed all those details are available to view before sale.
    Not certain about cows and calfs though


  • #34
    Limestone Cowboy
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    Mad4simmental wrote: »
    Probably but it was a "special" sale a long way from my usuall mart so I didn't really give a fcuk.

    I'm guessing/hoping you say Gort :D


  • #35
    Muckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,173 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    ALWAYS keep note YOURSELF and write down the price of the animal whether you are buying or selling. Also lot numbers.

    NEVER trust a mart to keep track of this data 100%. Raise any discrepancies at the earliest opportunity with the office clerk and/or manager and ask to hear the tape if necessary.

    ignore this small piece of advice at your peril.

    The way beef farming margins are gone, buying and selling days are every bit as important as the days you spend pulling your legs out of the muck. Keep the head sharp. Don't be a fool.


  • #36
    Mad4simmental
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    Limestone Cowboy wrote: »
    I'm guessing/hoping you say Gort :D

    No not Gort, do u have a hate for that place? Ha, your on the right lines but in the midlands.


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  • #37
    Limestone Cowboy
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    Mad4simmental wrote: »
    No not Gort, do u have a hate for that place? Ha, your on the right lines but in the midlands.

    I was being taken for an innocent young fella selling a heifer there one time, auctioneer told me not to be a thick cnut that I was getting the price of her, got €230 more for here a few weeks after in Ennis and that wouldn't have been a big price for her either but somewhere close to market value, used to go there with a lot of cattle but that finished that!


  • #38
    Nettleman
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    Limestone Cowboy wrote: »
    I was being taken for an innocent young fella selling a heifer there one time, auctioneer told me not to be a thick cnut that I was getting the price of her, got €230 more for here a few weeks after in Ennis and that wouldn't have been a big price for her either but somewhere close to market value, used to go there with a lot of cattle but that finished that!

    but how many lads are afraid to question auctioneers...I was left standing in the middle of the office floor while my query was been dealt with, in an attempt to shame me in front of other famers coming in and out-but I wasn't going away


  • #39
    farawaygrass
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    Had a run in with auctioneer in Gort myself last November 12 months. Was selling 5 weanlings together and was getting on only alright, when bidding stopped I told him I'd want a bit more, and he said he wouldn't ask for any more as the fella with the highest bid buys a lot of cattle there and had only sold a lot not long before. I still said no and he just moved on, didn't as much look at me again. Thought it was very bad form, I mean what difference did it make that the other lad was a "good cudtomer". I was entitled to the best I could get too. Surprised he even talked to me like that, maybe a slip of the tongue. Sold them about ten days for 20e more. Haven't been to Gort since, wouldn't mind but it has a great set up.


  • #40
    Limestone Cowboy
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    farawaygrass wrote: »
    Had a run in with auctioneer in Gort myself last November 12 months. Was selling 5 weanlings together and was getting on only alright, when bidding stopped I told him I'd want a bit more, and he said he wouldn't ask for any more as the fella with the highest bid buys a lot of cattle there and had only sold a lot not long before. I still said no and he just moved on, didn't as much look at me again. Thought it was very bad form, I mean what difference did it make that the other lad was a "good cudtomer". I was entitled to the best I could get too. Surprised he even talked to me like that, maybe a slip of the tongue. Sold them about ten days for 20e more. Haven't been to Gort since, wouldn't mind but it has a great set up.

    Tis handy to run over in the evening and there's no bother entering cattle like in Ennis. I was fair annoyed the same night after it though, won't be rushing back there again. Takes the guts of a fortnight for the cheque to come too which is a dose.


  • #41
    Muckit
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    Limestone Cowboy wrote: »
    I was being taken for an innocent young fella selling a heifer there one time, auctioneer told me not to be a thick cnut that I was getting the price of her, got €230 more for here a few weeks after in Ennis and that wouldn't have been a big price for her either but somewhere close to market value, used to go there with a lot of cattle but that finished that!

    Might be the place to buy though!!


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  • #42
    farawaygrass
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    Limestone Cowboy wrote: »
    Tis handy to run over in the evening and there's no bother entering cattle like in Ennis. I was fair annoyed the same night after it though, won't be rushing back there again. Takes the guts of a fortnight for the cheque to come too which is a dose.

    Tbh I never sold before that time, only bought. But was well posed off to say I wouldn't return anytime sooner. 2 weeks sounds a bit much, a week should be well sufficient. Out if interest who was your auctuoneer-glasses with strong Clare accent or government salary managerial type man?


  • #43
    Limestone Cowboy
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    farawaygrass wrote: »
    Tbh I never sold before that time, only bought. But was well posed off to say I wouldn't return anytime sooner. 2 weeks sounds a bit much, a week should be well sufficient. Out if interest who was your auctuoneer-glasses with strong Clare accent or government salary managerial type man?
    The latter, also a publican. Dunno how anyone would vote for him!


  • #44
    farawaygrass
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    Limestone Cowboy wrote: »
    The latter, also a publican. Dunno how anyone would vote for him!

    Same as myself! Hears him a lot before and thought he was fair but wouldn't bother with him anymore. As you said though, the time is a real draw with the working men and all. Always a good crowd. Only one other negative thing about the place though-drover in heifer ring, the stick should be taken of him. He's brutal with it


  • #45
    Toplink
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    farawaygrass wrote: »
    Only one other negative thing about the place though-drover in heifer ring, the stick should be taken of him. He's brutal with it

    Same fella used to allegedly drink a pint of blood above in Duffys factory every Monday morning for the cure, back in the day :D


  • #46
    Limestone Cowboy
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    farawaygrass wrote: »
    Same as myself! Hears him a lot before and thought he was fair but wouldn't bother with him anymore. As you said though, the time is a real draw with the working men and all. Always a good crowd. Only one other negative thing about the place though-drover in heifer ring, the stick should be taken of him. He's brutal with it
    Ya he's fair bad for beating cattle and roaring all right. Your not the first lad to say the stick should be taken from him either.


  • #47
    farawaygrass
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    Limestone Cowboy wrote: »
    Ya he's fair bad for beating cattle and roaring all right. Your not the first lad to say the stick should be taken from him either.

    A heard other people say it too. No need with the set up they have.
    God a pint of blood, if he was a Guinness man he would have more iron in him than a scrap yard! 😱


  • #48
    Count Mondego
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    Toplink wrote: »
    Same fella used to allegedly drink a pint of blood above in Duffys factory every Monday morning for the cure, back in the day :D

    I heard that story too. I'd well believe it. Does his name sound like moron? Pun intended.


  • #49
    visatorro
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    used to bring all the calves and whatever weanlings, mostly fr down to local mart. I think the dealers have the place ruined. bringing in lots whenever they like. telling buyers not to buy stock as they have cattle coming in. my calves were moved to a pen outside before, had to bring one of them home. your day is wasted aswell. just advertised on donedeal. now I have two regular buyers. who both got sickened in the mart before aswell and prefer buying straight off farm. if I have to go with stock again I will but il try avoid it if I can.


  • #50
    Toplink
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    Count Mondego wrote: »
    I heard that story too. I'd well believe it. Does his name sound like moron? Pun intended.

    Thats him. :D

    Who is that heavy set bearded dealer there at the Thursday night weanling sales. He'll get an awful flaking some night, some of his behavior is despicable at times.

    Regarding dealers though... if you know your business and stick to your plan I don't see how you can let the dealers 'break you'. Every man should enter bidding with a max price in his head. Once you hit that price walk away. Better go home with an empty trailer than being a busy fool.


  • #51
    Limestone Cowboy
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    Toplink wrote: »
    Thats him. :D

    Who is that heavy set bearded dealer there at the Thursday night weanling sales. He'll get an awful flaking some night, some of his behavior is despicable at times.

    Regarding dealers though... if you know your business and stick to your plan I don't see how you can let the dealers 'break you'. Every man should enter bidding with a max price in his head. Once you hit that price walk away. Better go home with an empty trailer than being a busy fool.
    Coleman.


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