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Tombo2001 · 20-04-2015 03:58PM

Really impressed with the victim impact statement and the way the family have tried so hard to do the right thing by their sister/ daughter.

I think a class act, a real class act in the victim impact statement is for them to acknowledge that other families have suffered here also. That shows real empathy.

FluffyAngel · 20-04-2015 03:58PM

while not agreeing with censorship,i think that boards should just abstain from this thread .. just on a moral point of not hurting people involded anymore ..

suicide_circus · 20-04-2015 03:59PM

RGDATA! wrote: »

why do you feel that he'll probably do less than the average life sentence?

Not a great comparison but Eamonn Lillis killed his wife stone dead, tried to frame another man and was out in 5 years.

Neyite · 20-04-2015 03:59PM

discodiva92 wrote: »

Why didn't the guards search her apartment and phone laptop when missing?

They did, but her iphone was not used for contact with him and he ordered her to leave it in her apartment, he bought 2 nokia ones for contact with her, and dumped them in the reservoir after he murdered her. They lay there submerged for over a year but restarted perfectly after a few days drying out in the garda station. Good old nokia, eh?

They did check her pc and apartment, but as an adult missing person who had a history of self harm, other conclusions were drawn perhaps.

El Weirdo · 20-04-2015 04:01PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Not a great comparison but Eamonn Lillis killed his wife stone dead, tried to frame another man and was out in 5 years.

But he was convicted of manslaughter.

Neyite · 20-04-2015 04:01PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Not a great comparison but Eamonn Lillis killed his wife stone dead, tried to frame another man and was out in 5 years.

That was a manslaughter conviction though, they tend to have lighter sentences don't they?

Heisenberg1 · 20-04-2015 04:02PM

Jimminy Mc Fukhead wrote: »

They must consider public safety also. Malcolm MacArthur was left in until he was very old

So because he is older he is less of a threat? I'm sorry but that is utter nonsense.

Tombo2001 · 20-04-2015 04:02PM

El Weirdo wrote: »

Quite.

Just look at all the posters in here and Feedback who were just champing at the bit to get down to discussing the juicy details of the case when he was found guilty last month.

All rather distasteful, to say the least.

I would dispute that.

I think the fascination the press has had with the lurid details of this case is not consistent with the attitudes of the general public.

Much more interesting than headlines about this website or that website is the struggle that this woman went through over the course of her life, and that her family went through with her.

mark_jmc · 20-04-2015 04:02PM

i genuinely hope his soap has no rope

anto9 · 20-04-2015 04:03PM

Magico Gonzalez wrote: »

I think I lived hear him once.

I used to live in Dublin also .

Tombo2001 · 20-04-2015 04:04PM

georgiecasey wrote: »

and well done to boards.ie for banning all discussion until the sentencing. even though the national broadcaster, all radio stations, both broadsheet and tabloid newspapers were doing stories on it after the conviction, boards.ie knew its powerful and influential position in Irish natioanl discourse meant it was held to higher standards

I know you are being ironic, but personally I think it was absolutely appropriate.

Heisenberg1 · 20-04-2015 04:04PM

El Weirdo wrote: »

He can get parole, but he will only be out on license for the rest of his life.

His case will be reviewed in 7years but knowing our wonderful justice system he could be out before this. I don't see why the judge could not set a minimum sentence as in 50 years before being considered for parole.

Flippyfloppy · 20-04-2015 04:05PM

For what it's worth I don't think her name was dragged through the mud. I think it's pretty obvious she was a lady. RIP Elaine.

Boom_Bap · 20-04-2015 04:06PM

As we are only 45 posts in and the rules in the opening post are being ignored, I'm going to post them again

Rules from the outset;
“Rumours” will not be tolerated. Hearsay, if posted, must come directly from another media source (not someone's blog). A link to that source should be provided. Any other hearsay of the “my brother’s friend said…” variety will be in breach of these rules and actioned accordingly.

Distasteful comments on the appearance of the victim or her killer, will not be allowed. This was a murder, not a beauty contest.

Speculation as to the identity of any boards members always has been, and always will be against site rules, that rule will be enforced.

Discussion of moderation is not allowed. If you have any questions or queries, please PM any of the mods (I recommend including at least two of us in the PM as we may not all be online).

Please do not feed trolls, report posts that you feel may be trolling and let the mods deal with them.

Please use common sense, remember that both the victim’s family, and Dwyer’s family, all of whom are entirely innocent, may be reading this. They have enough to deal with without the members of After Hours adding to that.

whatismyname · 20-04-2015 04:06PM

No longer living in Ireland, so a lot of this passed me by. Only know the basic jist of it.

Don't know what else to say but RIP Elaine.

padd b1975 · 20-04-2015 04:07PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Not a great comparison but Eamonn Lillis killed his wife stone dead, tried to frame another man and was out in 5 years.

Two totally different crimes there.

the_monkey · 20-04-2015 04:08PM

georgiecasey wrote: »

and well done to boards.ie for banning all discussion until the sentencing. even though the national broadcaster, all radio stations, both broadsheet and tabloid newspapers were doing stories on it after the conviction, boards.ie knew its powerful and influential position in Irish natioanl discourse meant it was held to higher standards

in fairness tho, there is a difference between pre checked media articles and a forum where any clown can come along and post something that the defence can use to defend the perp ..

El Weirdo · 20-04-2015 04:09PM

Heisenberg1 wrote: »

His case will be reviewed in 7years but knowing our wonderful justice system he could be out before this.

This is just nonsense.

suicide_circus · 20-04-2015 04:10PM

padd b1975 wrote: »

Two totally different crimes there.

True but in both cases a woman was killed for the killers own ends with aggravating circumstances. My point is that we shouldnt be overly surprised if he gets out in a shockingly short space of time.

RobertKK · 20-04-2015 04:11PM

He was fully aware of what he was doing, but at the same time, his brain must have been wired in a very strange way to find the violence he was into as being a sexual turn on.
Horrific case, not a jury panel I would want to be on.

Heisenberg1 · 20-04-2015 04:12PM

El Weirdo wrote: »

This is just nonsense.

Good argument. Are you saying that he won't be up for review after 7 years ?

Jimminy Mc Fukhead · 20-04-2015 04:13PM

Heisenberg1 wrote: »

So because he is older he is less of a threat? I'm sorry but that is utter nonsense.

While you were asleep we were discussing the length of a 'life' sentence in ireland. I pointed out macarthur as an example of a long life sentence. he was left in until he was old. on the scale of our life sentences that is long.

as to what level of threat he is? how would i know. never met the man and im not a mind reader.

learn to read before you try to progress to being a smartarse

ohnonotgmail · 20-04-2015 04:14PM

Heisenberg1 wrote: »

His case will be reviewed in 7years but knowing our wonderful justice system he could be out before this. I don't see why the judge could not set a minimum sentence as in 50 years before being considered for parole.

he will not be out before this. His first review will be at 7 years. he is VERY unlikely to be released at this point. His release is at the discretion of the minister for justice. The judge can set a minimum term of 30 years or the remainder of their life. I havent seen the actual sentence handed down in this case so cant comment further on whether this happened.

realdanbreen · 20-04-2015 04:15PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

I wonder what he will appeal on...

No cause of death was ever established so if I was him I would start there.

El Weirdo · 20-04-2015 04:16PM

Heisenberg1 wrote: »

Good argument. Are you saying that he won't be up for review after 7 years ?

No, the other part of what I quoted was nonsense.

topper75 · 20-04-2015 04:21PM

Serious heroics performed by cops.

We all have our whinges about them now and then, but by God they pulled out all the stops to send that psycho down. If they failed, I strongly believe that there would have been other victims in time to come.

The technical stuff was better than any CSI episode. Kudos.

Frigga_92 · 20-04-2015 04:22PM

Happy to see him get life but what is life in Ireland really.

While all my sympathy is with Elaine O'Hara's family and everything they've gone through with regard to the murder itself and all the horrible media coverage they've had to endure, I can't help but think of Graham Dwyer's wife and his 2 children, what kind of a life will they have now? That horrible man has ruined so many lives.

The Moldy Gowl · 20-04-2015 04:27PM

Can someone give us lazy people a Tl:dr of all this?

Is he someone famous who killed someone? What's different about this murder
God I feel so out of the loop.

Laois_Man · 20-04-2015 04:28PM

Neyite wrote: »

He was in the audience shortly before Elaine's body was recovered. It was on the primetime special.

A picture of O'Dwyer taken in at The Late Late Show after he had murdered Elaine O'Hara and before her body was found

ColeTrain · 20-04-2015 04:30PM

Laois_Man wrote: »

A picture of O'Dwyer taken in at The Late Late Show after he had murdered Elaine O'Hara and before her body was found

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