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Dairy Farming General

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  • #7862
    mahoney_j
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,808 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    minktrapper wrote: »
    I have a cow with a left displaced abomasum.What is the best cure for it.

    Would u not be better off asking a vet?????.get him out soon as and an operation will most likely be required followed by an ass load of coffee over a few days.time is key so act quick


  • #7863
    Milked out
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    minktrapper wrote: »
    I have a cow with a left displaced abomasum.What is the best cure for it.

    Who diagnosed it? if it is best thing is operating as it's fairly successful and they do fine after it, did vet not suggest this?


  • #7864
    trixi2011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭trixi2011


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Would u not be better off asking a vet?????.get him out soon as and an operation will most likely be required followed by an ass load of coffee over a few days.time is key so act quick

    What does the coffee do ?


  • #7865
    minktrapper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭minktrapper


    Vet diagnosed it was just wondering would anyone come up with some extra info..He also suggested an operation.Is coffee a help for a LDA or is it just a RDA that coffee works on.She might have had it for some time as in 2 weeks.The cow also had milk fever.


  • #7866
    trixi2011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭trixi2011


    minktrapper wrote: »
    Vet diagnosed it was just wondering would anyone come up with some extra info..He also suggested an operation.Is coffee a help for a LDA or is it just a RDA that coffee works on.She might have had it for some time as in 2 weeks.The cow also had milk fever.

    Would be getting the operation done whenever possible , the milk fever will be the cause of the lda,had a few here this year operations where a huge success


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  • #7867
    minktrapper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭minktrapper


    trixi2011 wrote: »
    Would be getting the operation done whenever possible , the milk fever will be the cause of the lda,had a few here this year operations where a huge success

    Was the milk fever the cause or the calving?It was my own fault anyhow normally give a bottle or two of megacal as a precaution against the milk fever.It was late at night and worn out from work and said ''sure she will be alright''.Like hell she was.


  • #7868
    trixi2011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,539 ✭✭✭trixi2011


    minktrapper wrote: »
    Was the milk fever the cause or the calving?It was my own fault anyhow normally give a bottle or two of megacal as a precaution against the milk fever.It was late at night and worn out from work and said ''sure she will be alright''.Like hell she was.

    We'll any illness that would cause her not to eat can cause it . With us it was cows with milk fever the vets tought


  • #7869
    Milked out
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    minktrapper wrote: »
    Was the milk fever the cause or the calving?It was my own fault anyhow normally give a bottle or two of megacal as a precaution against the milk fever.It was late at night and worn out from work and said ''sure she will be alright''.Like hell she was.

    Most likely a sudden change in diet, did she go from dry on silage to grass straight after calving? A tough calving or milk fever wouldn't help but getting enough roughage and fibre before and after calving helps


  • #7870
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,980 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    trixi2011 wrote: »
    What does the coffee do ?
    gives them an energy boost, normally pick up a few jars when on special offer to have on stand by for cows


  • #7871
    Midfield9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭Midfield9


    We always had 1 if not 2 a year but haven't had any in over 2 years. We heard a guy talking about them once and he said to leave in a 25l bucket of water right beside the calf as soon as she calves. Usually the kneck it down and maybe a second bucket. Haven't had one since. Don't know if its just coincidence or what.
    I presume its something to do with filling up the stomach and space the calf left.


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  • #7872
    peterson1111
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 ✭peterson1111


    hello friends........


  • #7873
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Have a heifer here who has gone back in her milk a bit bag been slack for last few milking and was always like a rock with milk before now.
    She's in great condition hasn't lost a pound since she calved and looks well and eats all her nuts.
    any ideas?
    also have a few heifers who haven't lost there heavy winter coat all cows have just these 6 haven't getting mins and hair has come off there back when they were bulled


  • #7874
    orm0nd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    minktrapper wrote: »
    I have a cow with a left displaced abomasum.What is the best cure for it.

    surgery is the best long term solution, usually LDA is a fairly straight forward procedure
    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Have a heifer here who has gone back in her milk a bit bag been slack for last few milking and was always like a rock with milk before now.


    I presume you have checked her temperature,

    had something similar last week, vet found some discrepancy in her urine
    betamox for 3 days sorted it


  • #7875
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    orm0nd wrote: »
    surgery is the best long term solution, usually LDA is a fairly straight forward procedure




    I presume you have checked her temperature,

    had something similar last week, vet found some discrepancy in her urine
    betamox for 3 days sorted it
    Yeah temp Her temp was 39.


  • #7876
    minktrapper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭minktrapper


    Milked out wrote: »
    Most likely a sudden change in diet, did she go from dry on silage to grass straight after calving? A tough calving or milk fever wouldn't help but getting enough roughage and fibre before and after calving helps

    We always put them on good quality hay and maybe a small bit of silage.A bucket of bran and warm water is supposed to be great too.


  • #7877
    KCTK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 378 ✭✭KCTK


    1st loss of calving season there about an hour ago on second last cow to calf, huge whitehead bull, least cow is up and OK after the ordeal, should have called vet earlier but thought she'd get there on her own. Suppose 1 from 80 would be great if I could be so lucky every year.


  • #7878
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Just finished recording. The eldest lad took charge of the bottles and we left the ACRs on manual. It really is a job for two but thankful it's over for a few weeks now.

    I was talking to a guy working for Munster and he said they were looking at doing something for the ACRs as there are so many complaints about them and the DIY recording. I think they can change the programming for the ACRs now to give a blast of vacuum for about 30 seconds after the cluster comes off.


  • #7879
    Timmaay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    What's the problem with the milk recording meters and acrs? Got sample jars here and use the milk indicators, it's still a job for 2 but we have no issues with acrs. Surely putting acrs on manual slows everything down even more?


  • #7880
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Timmaay wrote: »
    What's the problem with the milk recording meters and acrs? Got sample jars here and use the milk indicators, it's still a job for 2 but we have no issues with acrs. Surely putting acrs on manual slows everything down even more?
    There's no vacuum to empty the sample volume in the DIY meters before you go milking the next cow so you can get compromised samples with milk from 2 cows going into the second sample bottle.

    And have to put all the milking on manual which is a pain in the tit coz i'm getting lazy in my old age:P


  • #7881
    Cow Porter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭Cow Porter


    Timmaay wrote: »
    What's the problem with the milk recording meters and acrs? Got sample jars here and use the milk indicators, it's still a job for 2 but we have no issues with acrs. Surely putting acrs on manual slows everything down even more?

    Will they allow you record using volume on the indicators? What type samplers are they? Ambic?


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  • #7882
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    When is salmonella vacation supposed to be done?
    hope to start doing salmonella and lepto vaccine here this yr


  • #7883
    Cow Porter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭Cow Porter


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    When is salmonella vacation supposed to be done?
    hope to start doing salmonella and lepto vaccine here this yr

    Vet recommends lepto and bvd first shot valentines day and booster paddy's day if start ai on 1st april.

    Salmonella in September

    Ibr in January and June if 6 month live used


  • #7884
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Cow Porter wrote: »
    Vet recommends lepto and bvd first shot valentines day and booster paddy's day if start ai on 1st april.

    Salmonella in September

    Ibr in January and June if 6 month live used
    Will salmonella in September covery me with autumn calver?


  • #7885
    Cow Porter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭Cow Porter


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Will salmonella in September covery me with autumn calver?

    Don't think it's 100% but if your carrying over cows will it just become too complicated


  • #7886
    Timmaay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,392 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    http://www.joe.ie/sport/pic-this-laois-managers-pre-game-text-message-is-the-most-irish-thing-youll-see-today/492678

    Any laois dairy farmers here ha?


  • #7887
    freedominacup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Mrs freedom just got a promotion. If she keeps this up I might become one of those dog and stick summer grazers and live off the sfp. Pass the day trolling dfg thread with stuff about "in my time".


  • #7888
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,980 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    freedominacup wrote: »
    Mrs freedom just got a promotion. If she keeps this up I might become one of those dog and stick summer grazers and live off the sfp. Pass the day trolling dfg thread with stuff about "in my time".
    well done mrs freedom:)


  • #7889
    minktrapper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭minktrapper


    Cow Porter wrote: »
    Vet recommends lepto and bvd first shot valentines day and booster paddy's day if start ai on 1st april.

    Salmonella in September

    Ibr in January and June if 6 month live used

    Is it too late to BVD vaccine now.


  • #7890
    Cow Porter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭Cow Porter


    minktrapper wrote: »
    Is it too late to BVD vaccine now.

    Had outbreak last year - wasn't vaccinating and vaccinated on 18th April and booster on 22nd of may, it workedas in no spring pi calves but don't think manufacturer covers it, remember a few years back bleeding calf syndrome and unproven link to a bvd vaccine


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  • #7891
    visatorro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,950 ✭✭✭visatorro


    how far are your cows walking? its 1km to the furthest corner of the milking block. cows dont be in a great panic walking up that lane!!
    do you try alternate long and short walks?


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