Assault on Paul Deaton

bjork · 17-04-2015 09:52PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Eh... it was only reported on Wednesday night. What 'hold up' are you on about? I doubt having a load of internet warriors on the hunt for them is going to help Gardai do their job.

Relax the cacks!

It's Friday! If there is CCTV identifying them, I'll repeat, what's the hold up? They are not fit to be at large in society.

captbarnacles · 17-04-2015 09:55PM

heldel00 wrote: »

Only back from ten days in Abu Dhabi and I never heard a siren nor laid eyes on police the whole time we were there. Zero crime rate because zero tolerance for it. You steal, your hand is cut off!
Now maybe that is a bit extreme but there has to be something done. There has to be a fear of repercussion for your crime.

This is it. They have zero fear. They took pictures/video of of it. Do you really do that if you fear being punished?

themandan6611 · 17-04-2015 10:02PM

Sadly not surprised. That park has nearly zero police presence. How many serious attacks have taken place on poor people the last number of years ? some have been left dead or brain-damaged.

The place and surrounding area has some serious scumbags.

While it was a dreadful incident the chap was, if you can call it, lucky it was not worse

frostyjacks · 17-04-2015 10:05PM

I'd love to see a whole fleet of JCBs drive over the scum who did this, and the scum who've inflicted them upon society. What will the next generation be like? God help us.

mal1 · 17-04-2015 10:07PM

heldel00 wrote: »

Only back from ten days in Abu Dhabi and I never heard a siren nor laid eyes on police the whole time we were there. Zero crime rate because zero tolerance for it. You steal, your hand is cut off!
Now maybe that is a bit extreme but there has to be something done. There has to be a fear of repercussion for your crime.

Ah come on now. Just google UAE and human rights and see how this kind of justice operates. The intellectually disabled often don't do well in the Middle East either and may not get any kind of schooling. I'm sure there's little crime in ISIL administered Iraq at the moment, I still take my chances in Ireland though.

SEPT 23 1989 · 17-04-2015 10:08PM

themandan6611 wrote: »

While it was a dreadful incident the chap was, if you can call it, lucky it was not worse

We are lucky that the man who would not hurt a fly went to photograph a few JCB's wasnt killed?

what sort of place has this country turned into?

mickdw · 17-04-2015 10:09PM

Yep jcb distributor had already been on the radio earlier today offering him a day out.
Nice idea to be fair.

Wacker The Attacker · 17-04-2015 10:12PM

I immediately asked myself this question when I saw this on the news, If you followed these skangers into Fairview park close after this attack with a golf club or a hurley and battered one or two of them, would anyone give a sh1t?

I'd be amazed if the answer wasn't a resounding no.

There's clearly something wrong with society when autistic and special needs kids are targeted like this.

brevity · 17-04-2015 10:15PM

Like others I heard this on the radio today; it's such a sad and frustrating story. Made my blood boil. Those little ****s wouldn't just leave someone alone.

Slippin Jimmy · 17-04-2015 10:15PM

Fair play to that chap, despite his issues he doesn't let that stop him doing what he loves to do. That in itself is an achievement and something he should be very proud of. It really does sicken me to think we have individuals living in this country that are capable of such a thing. I doubt would cause any trouble or harm to anyone, which is more than could be said for these 3 scumbags.

And I must say fair play to the op for emailing jcb, hopefully they might be able to put a smile on Paul's face.

themandan6611 · 17-04-2015 10:15PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

We are lucky that the man who would not hurt a fly went to photograph a few JCB's wasnt killed?

what sort of place has this country turned into?

It has always been bad around that place, a few that come to mind

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/man-pleads-guilty-to-vicious-assault-on-italian-teenager-26069090.html

https://gayhistory.wordpress.com/2014/06/28/dublin-the-fairview-park-murders-and-the-declan-flynn-murder-case/

SEPT 23 1989 · 17-04-2015 10:16PM

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

I immediately asked myself this question when I saw this on the news, If you followed these skangers into Fairview park close after this attack with a golf club or a hurley and battered one or two of them, would anyone give a sh1t?

I'd be amazed if the answer wasn't a resounding no.

There's clearly something wrong with society when autistic and special needs kids are targeted like this.

no jury in the land would convict you for giving these fcukers a hiding after doing this

Wacker The Attacker · 17-04-2015 10:17PM

captbarnacles wrote: »

This is it. They have zero fear. They took pictures/video of of it. Do you really do that if you fear being punished?

That depends on what you mean by punished. Personally, I believe that by targeting someone who may not be capable of defending themselves, they don't deserve to be treated like normal human beings in return.

bjork · 17-04-2015 10:17PM

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

I immediately asked myself this question when I saw this on the news, If you followed these skangers into Fairview park close after this attack with a golf club or a hurley and battered one or two of them, would anyone give a sh1t?

I'd be amazed if the answer wasn't a resounding no.

There's clearly something wrong with society when autistic and special needs kids are targeted like this.

You'd be in the dock and on the front of all the papers before you got home.

10 years for assault and battery/

captbarnacles · 17-04-2015 10:19PM

What if he wrote a letter of apology?

Wacker The Attacker · 17-04-2015 10:19PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

no jury in the land would convict you for giving these fcukers a hiding after doing this

These people are quite clearly sub human.

kfallon · 17-04-2015 10:20PM

bjork wrote: »

You'd be in the dock and on the front of all the papers before you got home.

10 years for assault and battery/

Sadly I think you're spot on

Wacker The Attacker · 17-04-2015 10:21PM

bjork wrote: »

You'd be in the dock and on the front of all the papers before you got home.

10 years for assault and battery manslaughter/

It wouldnt be a few clatters they'd be getting. I also think youre correct in your summation.

If you are correct you then need to ask why arent they doing 10 years for assault and battery as well

SEPT 23 1989 · 17-04-2015 10:22PM

bjork wrote: »

You'd be in the dock and on the front of all the papers before you got home.

10 years for assault and battery/

so a disabled lad is tortured in a park and whacker marches in with a nine iron and sorts them out

a jury would find him guilty?

i doubt it

Lord PuppyMcSnuggle of Cuddleshire · 17-04-2015 10:23PM

crazygeryy wrote: »

and now he is afraid to go anywhere and nervous all the time.

Yeah welcome to the club. Being attacked by psychopaths is a real eye-opener. They only exist as fictional characters until you experience one first-hand. You don't sleep with the lights off after you find out the boogieman is real.

captbarnacles wrote: »

This is it. They have zero fear. They took pictures/video of of it. Do you really do that if you fear being punished?

If fear of punishment is all that's stopping them from harassing and assaulting innocent people, then there's a bigger problem. Where's the empathy? If any normal person had a licence to commit any illegal activity they wanted for a whole year - where on the list do you think beating this man would be?

I think they did it because they found it funny. And they put their own temporary amusement ahead of the life and dignity of someone they didn't know. They've taken years from his quality of life, and this happens every day to people in Dublin. It's only a news story because he has special needs, and this time we can't just write it off as "Oh he must have done something to deserve it". It's shocking to us because that doubt is gone, and the disturbing nature of these people is more visible.

deco nate · 17-04-2015 10:24PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

so a disabled lad is tortured in a park and whacker marches in with a nine iron and sorts them out

a jury would find him guilty?

i doubt it

Think it's called defence by proxy.

porsche959 · 17-04-2015 11:23PM

Disgraceful behaviour by these brats, but those saying society is getting worse by the day, this kind of thing never used to happen in Ireland should wise up. There was a murder committed in this very park 30 years ago.

As for those with mild or severe mental handicaps, we basically used to lock them up in institutions where they rotted away, unless they were lucky enough to be born into a wealthy family.

heldel00 · 17-04-2015 11:24PM

mal1 wrote: »

Ah come on now. Just google UAE and human rights and see how this kind of justice operates. The intellectually disabled often don't do well in the Middle East either and may not get any kind of schooling. I'm sure there's little crime in ISIL administered Iraq at the moment, I still take my chances in Ireland though.

Ah here I'm obviously not sayin that we go to the extremes of the UAE/Middle East!!!
Scumbags have no fear though. There needs to be tougher punishment. A "cushy" stay in Mountjoy or young offenders institution, with your dole mounting up on the outside just doesn't cut it in my opinion!

17-04-2015 11:26PM

I live near Fairview Park and was always told not to go near it! This really upsets me as a former victim of bullying, but never anything this bad.

captbarnacles · 17-04-2015 11:31PM

That's when there is any punishment at all..

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/teen-girl-let-off-for-stubbing-cigarette-out-on-mums-face-31147936.html

However, the 17-year-old girl, who had stubbed a cigarette on the woman's face, had been remanded on bail pending sentence and a probation report was furnished to the court when the case resumed yesterday.
Judge John O'Connor noted the report stated she is at a low risk of re-offending and had engaged in a plan of restorative justice tasks, including voluntary work with children and donating money to an addiction treatment centre.
Judge O'Connor said she had complied fully with the restorative justice plan and was genuinely sorry. He added that while the incident was appalling it would be unfair to penalise the girl for the rest of her life.
He said he was marking the facts proven but striking out the case, meaning the girl has been spared a criminal record as well as a custodial sentence.

spurious · 17-04-2015 11:33PM

Ah here now, didn't she give money to charity and help a few ex-junkies?

You can be sure the charmers from Fairview Park have their 'deprived' stories all ready to go if they're caught.

17-04-2015 11:38PM

The Rodgers wrote: »

I sent an email to JCB's Irish distributor ( http://ecijcb.ie/ ) to ask if they could give him a site tour. I don't know the man or his family.

Fair play to you. I just got unproductively angry about it all. That was a terrific idea.

Lord PuppyMcSnuggle of Cuddleshire wrote: »

I think they did it because they found it funny. And they put their own temporary amusement ahead of the life and dignity of someone they didn't know. They've taken years from his quality of life, and this happens every day to people in Dublin. It's only a news story because he has special needs, and this time we can't just write it off as "Oh he must have done something to deserve it". It's shocking to us because that doubt is gone, and the disturbing nature of these people is more visible.

Sadly true. Dismissing acts of violence as having been provoked is probably some sort of community survival mechanism.

A few years ago I was ambling with a friend down one of the main thoroughfares in Dublin, when a man appeared out of nowhere, and slammed his fist into my eye-socket, knocking me to the ground. He then started on my friend. We cancelled our plans, went home, and got drunk. The Gardai said he was just a cokehead. But it was the randomness of the attack that has stayed with me ever since. This was ten years ago and it still affects me when I walk around the city during the night.

Imagine how this far-worse, more brutal attack will affect Paul Deaton? Those thugs' perverse excitement will affect him for the rest of his life, I don't doubt it.

On a totally different matter, I would like to commend you on an excellent choice of username, m'Lord.

mal1 · 17-04-2015 11:52PM

heldel00 wrote: »

Ah here I'm obviously not sayin that we go to the extremes of the UAE/Middle East!!!
Scumbags have no fear though. There needs to be tougher punishment. A "cushy" stay in Mountjoy or young offenders institution, with your dole mounting up on the outside just doesn't cut it in my opinion!

I won't disagree with that. Like others that posted, I've had a pretty bad experience in Dublin too. Just had surgery two weeks ago to finally fix issues after being mugged and badly beaten on south circular road on way home from work. Again it was about 5-6 teenage scumbags. Gardai did little to nothing afterwards. Not sure why, resources maybe or just bad policing, I'm not sure. But its feeds the lack of fear that these guys have of even being caught.

Del.Monte · 17-04-2015 11:56PM

porsche959 wrote: »

Disgraceful behaviour by these brats, but those saying society is getting worse by the day, this kind of thing never used to happen in Ireland should wise up. There was a murder committed in this very park 30 years ago.

As for those with mild or severe mental handicaps, we basically used to lock them up in institutions where they rotted away, unless they were lucky enough to be born into a wealthy family.

You must be delusional if you think that things were as bad thirty years ago as they are today. The fact that you refer to these thugs as 'brats' shows that you're out of touch with reality. A brat in most people's understanding would be an unruly child or someone who might stick their tongue out at you, not somebody who would threaten and assault you.

porsche959 · 18-04-2015 12:03AM

Del.Monte wrote: »

You must be delusional if you think that things were as bad thirty years ago as they are today. The fact that you refer to these thugs as 'brats' shows that you're out of touch with reality. A brat in most people's understanding would be an unruly child or someone who might stick their tongue out at you, not somebody who would threaten and assault you.

1983:

They began to beat and kick him. When they had finished Dec1an Flynn lay on the path choking on his own blood. Tony Maher knew he was dying, he opened his shirt button, his hands were trembling, he felt all panicky. Robert Armstrong went to get the ambulance, the others just stood there and looked. They turned him on his side and then they legged it.

They legged it back past the Presbyterian Hall where youth activities were held every Saturday between six and eight. Over Annesley Bridge and back up to the flats. It was very quiet, there were no kids hitting balls off the balcony walls or prams being pulled up the stairs. "Jasus, maybe we roughed him up a bit much", said Donovan. But Armstrong knew he would die. He had seen the blood coming out of his mouth and it wasn't just running out, it was pumping.

They sat there until little Murphy came up. They split up in the park and he'd legged it home, leaving his bike lying on the ground. When he got home he turned on his radio and heard that the man beaten up in Fairview Park was dead on admission to Blanchardstown Hospita1.

When Murphy came up to the flats, to tell them Dec1an Flynn was dead, he was on his bike. He was always on his bike, he even brought it up the tracks when he went looking for cider at the parties.

"Your man's after dying on arriva1." Murphy was nearly crying; you could see he was all white.

Everyone split then and Armstrong and Maher let themselves into Maher's flat. They sat just looking at the fire.

Tony Maher kept thinking about what would happen to him and he kept seeing Declan Flynn lying on the ground choking on his blood. He still sees it now and again.

http://politico.ie/archive/night-they-killed-declan-flynn

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