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once a day feeding suck calves

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  • #32
    Greengrass1
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    Reggie. wrote: »
    I don't give any more than 3 lts on OAD

    In a calf rearing program here I'm doing what is advised


  • #33
    Reggie.
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    In a calf rearing program here I'm doing what is advised

    I find if I went over 3 lts I get scour in the calves


  • #34
    Greengrass1
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    Reggie. wrote: »
    I find if I went over 3 lts I get scour in the calves

    No scour here any way calves growing like weeds


  • #35
    Reggie.
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    No scour here any way calves growing like weeds

    Hopefully the same here this year


  • #36
    Base price
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    Reggie. wrote: »
    I find if I went over 3 lts I get scour in the calves
    Same here and I rear a few calves every year ;)
    On OAD I normally up the concentrate whilst still only feeding 3 litres. I do not use a specialist OAD milk replacer although the brand that I use does have one. Get them eating crunch/pencils along with straw/hay or out to a paddock (weather permitting) asap.
    Having said that, this year I am rearing feck all calves :(


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  • #37
    weatherbyfoxer
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    Anyone try adlib cold milk?..got the volac calf rearing pack in the post today, SEEMS calves do better on it then oad or tad


  • #38
    Greengrass1
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    weatherbyfoxer wrote: »
    Anyone try adlib cold milk?..got the volac calf rearing pack in the post today, SEEMS calves do better on it then oad or tad

    I tried to feed mine oad cold milk and they didn't like it.
    They went back quick and a few got sick


  • #39
    larrymiller
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    Just wondering how yee heat the water?


  • #40
    farm14
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    wouldnt be a fan of once a day feeding myself. its hard to get enough growth in the calves.


  • #41
    frazzledhome
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    farm14 wrote: »
    wouldnt be a fan of once a day feeding myself. its hard to get enough growth in the calves.

    Maybe you've tried it and didn't like it. We love it and feel we get much better growth as opposed to soft calves. Low water hi powder lots if nuts and straw with fresh water always available. Beats tad every time IMV


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  • #42
    Reggie.
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    farm14 wrote: »
    wouldnt be a fan of once a day feeding myself. its hard to get enough growth in the calves.

    Great results here


  • #43
    CloughCasey1
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    Reggie. wrote: »
    Great results here

    What age do you start on OAD? Do you go straight away from once they arrive or slowly change from TAD.


  • #44
    Reggie.
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    CloughCasey1 wrote: »
    What age do you start on OAD? Do you go straight away from once they arrive or slowly change from TAD.

    They came yesterday and ill try to get them to OAD by the weekend. On TAD at the moment to get used to replacer


  • #45
    Limofarmer
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    Reggie. wrote: »
    They came yesterday and ill try to get them to OAD by the weekend. On TAD at the moment to get used to replacer

    Pm sent Reggie


  • #46
    CloughCasey1
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    Reggie. wrote: »
    They came yesterday and ill try to get them to OAD by the weekend. On TAD at the moment to get used to replacer

    How many lts do you start them on when the arrive and do you up the morning feed and lessen the evening feed and make it later in the day to go to TAD?


  • #47
    Reggie.
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    CloughCasey1 wrote: »
    How many lts do you start them on when the arrive and do you up the morning feed and lessen the evening feed and make it later in the day to go to TAD?

    Last night they got 2 lts of water with 300 grammes of replacer with 50 ml of gel lyte+. Today they got 2 lts and 400 grammes with 400 again this evening. Tomorrow will be 500 and then 300 with 2 lts until I hit 700 grammes in one feeding as then they are on OAD. Will increase to 800 then after a few days OAD.


  • #48
    Limofarmer
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    Nice calves there Reggie


  • #49
    junospider
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    What milk replacer are you using? Using shine twice a day here with 300g/feed.
    Calves doing ok but very slow to eat crunch,
    800g seems an awful lot in 2lt of water.


  • #50
    Reggie.
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    junospider wrote: »
    What milk replacer are you using? Using shine twice a day here with 300g/feed.
    Calves doing ok but very slow to eat crunch,
    800g seems an awful lot in 2lt of water.

    800g in 2 lts of water makes 3 lts of replacer. It's supposed to be think in order to last the calf the 24hrs. It sits in their stomach like a lump of butter and breaks down slowly over the day. This forces the calf to move to concentrates to fill it's needs to eat but will have all it needs from its OAD feeding


  • #51
    CloughCasey1
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    Reggie. wrote: »
    Last night they got 2 lts of water with 300 grammes of replacer with 50 ml of gel lyte+. Today they got 2 lts and 400 grammes with 400 again this evening. Tomorrow will be 500 and then 300 with 2 lts until I hit 700 grammes in one feeding as then they are on OAD. Will increase to 800 then after a few days OAD.

    That's nearly double the recommended rate for OAD than what is on the back of bag of replacer I am using.


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  • #52
    Reggie.
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    CloughCasey1 wrote: »
    That's nearly double the recommended rate for OAD than what is on the back of bag of replacer I am using.
    Don't forget your giving them their daily requirements in one feed so you shouldn't hold back (within reason)

    Well that's the way I've always done it and works so far

    Plus from cow to trained on teat in 24hrs so the system must work ;)


  • #53
    whelan2
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    Reggie. wrote: »
    Well that's the way I've always done it and works so far

    Plus from cow to trained on teat in 24hrs so the system must work ;)
    fair play, the third lad over from the right has a fair frame on him


  • #54
    Reggie.
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    fair play, the third lad over from the right has a fair frame on him

    That's one from the cows. Two great frames on them in fairness.

    That was the troublemaker. Refused the teat till this evening. (Hunger is a great sauce :D) if he refused again tonight I was gonna have to bucket or bottle feed him.


  • #55
    whelan2
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    Reggie. wrote: »
    That's one from the cows. Two great frames on them in fairness.

    That's was the troublemaker. Refused the teat till this evening. (Hunger is a great sauce :D) if he refused again tonight I was gonna had to bucket or bottle feed him.
    sold the bull they are off to a suckler man to use on his cows, he will be happy with the offspring


  • #56
    Reggie.
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    sold the bull they are off to a suckler man to use on his cows, he will be happy with the offspring

    Make sure you get as good as one again :D


  • #57
    Corkfarmer
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    Have all calves outside here on OAD at the moment, ranging from a month to 8 weeks. I'm finding it very hard to get them to eat meal, put fresh stuff in every day. Could they be filling up on grass? Is this ok or do they need to be eating a good bit of meal with the grass?


  • #58
    Reggie.
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    Corkfarmer wrote: »
    Have all calves outside here on OAD at the moment, ranging from a month to 8 weeks. I'm finding it very hard to get them to eat meal, put fresh stuff in every day. Could they be filling up on grass? Is this ok or do they need to be eating a good bit of meal with the grass?

    Yeah it's the grass id reckon. I'd say your ok as the grass is doing the same as the meal. Once they are eating a kg of meal it's just a sign they are ready to come off milk as the rumen is ready


  • #59
    Reggie.
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    I also gave them 10 ml of this stuff. It's full of minerals and helps with the move over to replacer and keeps them all healthy


  • #60
    Reggie.
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    Reggie. wrote: »
    I also gave them 10 ml of this stuff. It's full of minerals and helps with the move over to replacer and keeps them all healthy

    Forgot the photo :o


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  • #61
    Corkfarmer
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    Reggie. wrote: »
    Yeah it's the grass id reckon. I'd say your ok as the grass is doing the same as the meal. Once they are eating a kg of meal it's just a sign they are ready to come off milk as the rumen is ready
    I wonder is the grass as good for this rumen development that all the millers talk about. I suppose the suckler lads do alright without meal.


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