once a day feeding suck calves

weatherbyfoxer · 10-04-2015 09:40AM #1

Looking for a bit of advice lads, I have a batch of 2-4 week old aax calves arriving tomorrow, they are trained to milk buckets with teats.how will I gear towards once a day milk feeding?..I generally rear calves on the twice a day system but no having to do the evening feed but still not effecting thrive d sounds appealing!

CloughCasey1 · 10-04-2015 09:50AM

weatherbyfoxer wrote: »

Looking for a bit of advice lads, I have a batch of 2-4 weeks aax calves arriving tomorrow, they are trained to milk buckets with teats.how will I gear towards once a day milk feeding?

Start off with small feeds tad for first few days to get them settled into replacer. Build up replacer to what is guided on what brand you are using. Slowly increase one feed and smaller second feed until you get them onto oad. Remember you will be mixing more replacer in the oad mix with no more than 3 liters milk per day. Possibly could build up the formula once they are settled into oad. Keep calf pencils/crunch in front of them daily. Anything not eaten next morning replace with fresh meal. Fresh bedding daily and replace the lot once a wk. Other than that plenty of fresh water and scour tabs/kaolin at the ready.

Reggie. · 10-04-2015 10:37AM

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Start off with small feeds tad for first few days to get them settled into replacer. Build up replacer to what is guided on what brand you are using. Slowly increase one feed and smaller second feed until you get them onto oad. Remember you will be mixing more replacer in the oad mix with no more than 3 liters milk per day. Possibly could build up the formula once they are settled into oad. Keep calf pencils/crunch in front of them daily. Anything not eaten next morning replace with fresh meal. Fresh bedding daily and replace the lot once a wk. Other than that plenty of fresh water and scour tabs/kaolin at the ready.

Also if you are using a compartment feeder (which I would recommend) if you notice that one has a slight scour drop a spoon full of kaolin power into the milk compartment that calf is sucking from. Saves you trying to chase it around the pen

CloughCasey1 · 10-04-2015 10:43AM

Reggie. wrote: »

Also if you are using a compartment feeder (which I would recommend) if you notice that one has a slight scour drop a spoon full of kaolin power into the milk compartment that calf is sucking from. Saves you trying to chase it around the pen

+1

stretch film · 10-04-2015 11:44AM

Reggie. wrote: »

Also if you are using a compartment feeder (which I would recommend) if you notice that one has a slight scour drop a spoon full of kaolin power into the milk compartment that calf is sucking from. Saves you trying to chase it around the pen

Can't understand lads using flat bottomed feeders . Its only when you use the compartment ones that you see the variety in drinking speeds.
Where do u get the kaolin ?
Never used it here.

Reggie. · 10-04-2015 01:12PM

stretch film wrote: »

Can't understand lads using flat bottomed feeders . Its only when you use the compartment ones that you see the variety in drinking speeds.
Where do u get the kaolin ?
Never used it here.

I get it in my local vet supplies shop. Should come in a kg bag. Last ya ages

CloughCasey1 · 10-04-2015 02:46PM

Reggie. wrote: »

I get it in my local vet supplies shop. Should come in a kg bag. Last ya ages

Bout 4 euro a bag . doesn't cure scour but would stop a train!!

weatherbyfoxer · 11-04-2015 08:56AM

Cheers for the advice lads, I have been using the milk flo compartment feeder for a few years now and reckon their the best on the market..

What milk replacer are people using?...im being offered volac olimpian for €40 per bag and maverick AAA for €44 any others out there good value?

Reggie. · 11-04-2015 10:29AM

weatherbyfoxer wrote: »

Cheers for the advice lads, I have been using the milk flo compartment feeder for a few years now and reckon their the best on the market..

What milk replacer are people using?...im being offered volac olimpian for €40 per bag and maverick AAA for €44 any others out there good value?

An air of caution on volac. There is a major supply problem with volac at the minute as they can produce enough for the market.

The merchants keep running out of it so you might find yourself having to change products mid feeding which would be far from ideal

weatherbyfoxer · 11-04-2015 10:36AM

Reggie. wrote: »

An air of caution on volac. There is a major supply problem with volac at the minute as they can produce enough for the market.

The merchants keep running out of it so you might find yourself having to change products mid feeding which would be far from ideal

Cheers reggie for the heads up, im only feeding 12 calves at the minute so if I pick up a few bags it should do me a while..just in suppliers there a few minutes ago they have one and a half pallets in stock

Reggie. · 11-04-2015 02:13PM

weatherbyfoxer wrote: »

Cheers reggie for the heads up, im only feeding 12 calves at the minute so if I pick up a few bags it should do me a while..just in suppliers there a few minutes ago they have one and a half pallets in stock

A pallet won't last too long tho

Sam Kade · 11-04-2015 04:42PM

Reggie. wrote: »

I get it in my local vet supplies shop. Should come in a kg bag. Last ya ages

I've the same bag of kaolin lying around for 2 years unopened

can't beat yogurt milk.

CloughCasey1 · 11-04-2015 09:42PM

Sam Kade wrote: »

I've the same bag of kaolin lying around for 2 years unopened can't beat yogurt milk.

What brand.using grennans wonder trive for last few years. Not all that happy with it this yr.

Sam Kade · 12-04-2015 09:14AM

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

What brand.using grennans wonder trive for last few years. Not all that happy with it this yr.

It's cows milk I use.

Reggie. · 12-04-2015 09:53AM

Area all ready to go here

larrymiller · 12-04-2015 10:00AM

Reggie. wrote: »

Area all ready to go here

Nice. Can't best good beds of straw, if only the aul lad here would agree. He'd get in and take half it out

Reggie. · 12-04-2015 10:14AM

larrymiller wrote: »

Nice. Can't best good beds of straw, if only the aul lad here would agree. He'd get in and take half it out

The dog leaped into it here yesterday (little terrier) and only her head was showing

frazzledhome · 12-04-2015 03:58PM

Reggie. wrote: »

An air of caution on volac. There is a major supply problem with volac at the minute as they can produce enough for the market.

The merchants keep running out of it so you might find yourself having to change products mid feeding which would be far from ideal

Gain Easy Mix is made by Volac, no shortage of it. If you check most are made by a few companies

Reggie. · 12-04-2015 04:24PM

frazzledhome wrote: »

Gain Easy Mix is made by Volac, no shortage of it. If you check most are made by a few companies

I was on about volac olympian replacer. I was talking to the main irish rep himself. He said the factories are maxed out and can't keep up production of it. They are restocking England first then overseas second.

Sorry I can't give concrete proof but look it's what I was told and olympian is very hard got anywhere near me

frazzledhome · 12-04-2015 04:39PM

I'm on this phuckin Boards App and its shyte. Old system went off phone. Only other I can get is laptop version and not suitable for phone.

I can't post pic of label, I'd like to compare Easy Mix is whey based at 25% p costing 24c/litre

Greengrass1 · 12-04-2015 04:47PM

frazzledhome wrote: »

I'm on this phuckin Boards App and its shyte. Old system went off phone. Only other I can get is laptop version and not suitable for phone.

I can't post pic of label, I'd like to compare Easy Mix is whey based at 25% p costing 24c/litre

Can ye not use it through the Internet?

frazzledhome · 12-04-2015 04:54PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Can ye not use it through the Internet?

Can't get it back. I need a young lad to set up again. It's putting me off tbh

Reggie. · 12-04-2015 05:00PM

The boards app is terrible

Kovu · 12-04-2015 05:18PM

Reggie. wrote: »

The boards app is terrible

:eek:
I can't believe you'd say that. It's not terrible

It's fcuking atrocious!

Reggie. · 12-04-2015 05:27PM

Kovu wrote: »

:eek:
I can't believe you'd say that. It's not terrible

It's fcuking atrocious!

Greengrass1 · 12-04-2015 06:42PM

frazzledhome wrote: »

I'm on this phuckin Boards App and its shyte. Old system went off phone. Only other I can get is laptop version and not suitable for phone.

I can't post pic of label, I'd like to compare Easy Mix is whey based at 25% p costing 24c/litre

How much are you getting a bag for?
I worked out its costing 46c on oad
and 28.75 on tad.
Is my math wrong?

Reggie. · 12-04-2015 07:00PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

How much are you getting a bag for?
I worked out its costing 46c on oad
and 28.75 on tad.
Is my math wrong?

That couldn't be right could it

Greengrass1 · 12-04-2015 07:37PM

Reggie. wrote: »

That couldn't be right could it

46e a bag
125 g per litre on rad
200 g per on oad

Reggie. · 12-04-2015 07:47PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

46e a bag
125 g per litre on rad
200 g per on oad

How many litres

Greengrass1 · 12-04-2015 07:52PM

Reggie. wrote: »

How many litres

6 on tad
4 on oad
that does effect how much per litre it costs

Reggie. · 12-04-2015 07:57PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

6 on tad
4 on oad
that does effect how much per litre it costs

I don't give any more than 3 lts on OAD

once a day feeding suck calves

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