White millionaire playing cop accidentally kills black suspect in taser gun mix up

DoYouEvenLift · 14-04-2015 05:14AM

Him being white and wealthy was definitely relative enough to include as a headline.

If it was a poor Asian man would that have been included? A poor Indian man?

How about a poor black man? That definitely would've been included, right? "A POOR BLACK MAN shoots ANOTHER BLACK MAN!"

I love how details like this have become something that can be included in stories as almost a negative lol. And usually by people who claim they want equality. "We want equality!...except for white males. Literally everyone of them, ever has been bad so let's treat them all bad...b-but yeah, EQUALITY!...for us"

That said. This even happening is fuking stupid. What a stupid initiative to have setup.

suicide_circus · 14-04-2015 07:43AM

There is currently no evidence to suggest the shooter and the shootee were not in a secret gay relationship.

ohnonotgmail · 14-04-2015 09:07AM

DavidRamsay99 wrote: »

If the suspect who was killed was a sweet hot young blonde girl would the police have initially called it excusable?

Is that your answer to everything?

Guy:Incognito · 14-04-2015 09:11AM

Egginacup wrote: »

You may not give a "feck" that someone was killed.....do you give a "feck" that someone paid to hunt a human?

It's a little unnerving that you feel this way (and it doesn't make you tough).

Speaking of Hyperbole......

Maybe Vlad could give the old lad a job NOT invading Ukraine.

sjb25 · 14-04-2015 09:14AM

Apart from him being 70 and all the rest there is training questions here if you see most armed officers anywhere in the world even armed gardai your taser and your firearm are holstered on different places most iv seen is gun on hip taser on front of there bulletproof vest so you don't make a mistake

Saipanne · 14-04-2015 09:17AM

Value Hunter wrote: »

I always view these threads as being created purely to satisfy the anti-america bias of some posters.

Never see any threads on South African police killings.

http://www.economist.com/node/21526932

What is peoples fixation with the U.S?

Its pathetic

But, but. George Bush....world bank....illuminati....

ohnonotgmail · 14-04-2015 09:21AM

sjb25 wrote: »

Apart from him being 70 and all the rest there is training questions here if you see most armed officers anywhere in the world even armed gardai your taser and your firearm are holstered on different places most iv seen is gun on hip taser on front of there bulletproof vest so you don't make a mistake

I'd imagine the training he got was minimal at best. Even training for regular cops can be pretty minimal. They made a series of documentary movies about it in the 1980's.

sjb25 · 14-04-2015 09:27AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I'd imagine the training he got was minimal at best. Even training for regular cops can be pretty minimal. They made a series of documentary movies about it in the 1980's.

That's what I'm saying I'd say he hadn't a clue what he was doing is more so the problem not race or guns or any of that a properly trained officer would have tazed the guy arrested him and we would never have heard about it and this gobsh1t pulls a gun instead of tazer and shoots him

ohnonotgmail · 14-04-2015 09:29AM

sjb25 wrote: »

That's what I'm saying I'd say he hadn't a clue what he was doing is more so the problem not race or guns or any of that a properly trained officer would have tazed the guy arrested him and we would never have heard about it and this gobsh1t pulls a gun instead of tazer and shoots him

Oh that absolutely is the problem. The other stuff is just people with an agenda

Renegade Mechanic · 14-04-2015 09:38AM

Look at the taser used in the "horse beating" video. It's practically a hand held high vis jacket. Now look at a hand gun. Even an American couldn't mix the two. Imo, it was absolutely deliberate. That aside, why give a toss what colour he was? Why is that important when the scumbag was a drug dealer?

ohnonotgmail · 14-04-2015 09:40AM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Look at the taser used in the "horse beating" video. It's practically a hand held high vis jacket. Now look at a hand gun. Even an American couldn't mix the two. Imo, it was absolutely deliberate. That aside, why give a toss what colour he was? Why is that important when the scumbag was a drug dealer?

Huh? this is what a taser looks like http://www.berkeleyside.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Police_issue_X26_TASER-white.jpg

It looks very much like a pistol.

Renegade Mechanic · 14-04-2015 09:41AM

Value Hunter wrote: »

I always view these threads as being created purely to satisfy the anti-america bias of some posters.

Never see any threads on South African police killings.

http://www.economist.com/node/21526932

What is peoples fixation with the U.S?

Its pathetic

Because if you're not on the internet often, then your news likely comes tv, radio and newspapers. None of which care, unfortunately.

Renegade Mechanic · 14-04-2015 09:43AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Huh? this is what a taser looks like http://www.berkeleyside.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Police_issue_X26_TASER-white.jpg

It looks very much like a pistol.

That yellow box is impossible not to see! :eek: And it's likely only half the weight. Handguns are surprisingly heavy for their size.

14-04-2015 09:44AM

Egginacup wrote: »

You may not give a "feck" that someone was killed.....do you give a "feck" that someone paid to hunt a human?

It's a little unnerving that you feel this way (and it doesn't make you tough).

This is the first time I've ever seen feck given the Dr Evil treatment.

What gives?

Dyr · 14-04-2015 09:48AM

So rich old lads can now pay to go on cop safari essentially?

Madness

ohnonotgmail · 14-04-2015 09:48AM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

That yellow box is impossible not to see! :eek: And it's likely only half the weight. Handguns are surprisingly heavy for their size.

i know how heavy a handgun is. and you are assuming he looked at what he had in his hand before pulling the trigger. This was a 73 year old guy probably drawing a weapon for the first time in his life. He isnt going to get the weighing scales out.

ohnonotgmail · 14-04-2015 09:49AM

Bambi wrote: »

So rich old lads can now pay to go on cop safari essentially?

Madness

hyperbole much?

sjb25 · 14-04-2015 09:49AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Huh? this is what a taser looks like http://www.berkeleyside.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Police_issue_X26_TASER-white.jpg

It looks very much like a pistol.

The yellow part weight and fact that they should be holstered in different locations should stop the mistakes

sjb25 · 14-04-2015 09:57AM

sjb25 wrote: »

The yellow part weight and fact that they should be holstered in different locations should stop the mistakes

In this video a member of the garda ERU shows of his gear as you can see with him his gun and tazer are at different sides of the body also different colours so should be no mistake https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DOBLaST44oY

Renegade Mechanic · 14-04-2015 09:59AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

i know how heavy a handgun is. and you are assuming he looked at what he had in his hand before pulling the trigger. This was a 73 year old guy probably drawing a weapon for the first time in his life. He isnt going to get the weighing scales out.

The difference would be far easier to tell than would require a scales. And he was already on the ground, held by cops. Why was a taser needed? Would that not have shocked anyone in contact? Now way, this was as deliberate as anything. That old man wanted him shot, for whatever reason, but they stupidly tried to cover it up and now he's done. It's the blatant lie that's annoying me here. Moreso than the the fact you can pay to be a cop. And while black lives matter, drug dealers don't. If they rally behind this man and protest on the back of another media ****storm, I'll lose a lot of respect tbh.

ohnonotgmail · 14-04-2015 10:02AM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

The difference would be far easier to tell than would require a scales. And he was already on the ground, held by cops. Why was a taser needed? Would that not have shocked anyone in contact? Now way, this was as deliberate as anything. That old man wanted him shot, for whatever reason, but they stupidly tried to cover it up and now he's done. It's the blatant lie that's annoying me here. Moreso than the the fact you can pay to be a cop. And while black lives matter, drug dealers don't. If they rally behind this man and protest on the back of another media ****storm, I'll lose a lot of respect tbh.

would you ever feck off with that nonsense.

zeffabelli · 14-04-2015 10:03AM

Value Hunter wrote: »

I always view these threads as being created purely to satisfy the anti-america bias of some posters.

Never see any threads on South African police killings.

http://www.economist.com/node/21526932

What is peoples fixation with the U.S?

Its pathetic

I think it's because we are part of a wider anglophone community and a lot of Irish people have family and connections in the US so there is a natural interest that there would not be in South Africa.

It's also because American media is more aggressive so its information gets more distribution.

I do see your point though, with the 'merica stuff.

ohnonotgmail · 14-04-2015 10:03AM

sjb25 wrote: »

In this video a member of the garda ERU shows of his gear as you can see with him his gun and tazer are at different sides of the body also different colours so should be no mistake https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DOBLaST44oY

I'm pretty sure the 73 year old wasnt a member of the ERU.

Larbre34 · 14-04-2015 10:04AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

hyperbole much?

Not a word of a lie in what he says.

This phenomenon of rent-a-cops in the US is farcical, volunteers, mall cops, gated community patrols. Imagine arming the residents association of your local road....

Renegade Mechanic · 14-04-2015 10:05AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

would you ever feck off with that nonsense.

At least do me the honour of explaining what nonsense?

sjb25 · 14-04-2015 10:08AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I'm pretty sure the 73 year old wasnt a member of the ERU.

I no that I'm trying to say this how it should be even on a 73 year old he shouldn't have been able to make the mistake he did

He was an idiot who should not have been there

ohnonotgmail · 14-04-2015 10:09AM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

At least do me the honour of explaining what nonsense?

i wouldnt even know where to start.

ohnonotgmail · 14-04-2015 10:10AM

sjb25 wrote: »

I no that I'm trying to say this how it should be even on a 73 year old he shouldn't have been able to make the mistake he did

He was an idiot who should not have been there

well we both agree on that much at least. He shouldnt have been a cop.

ohnonotgmail · 14-04-2015 10:11AM

Larbre34 wrote: »

Not a word of a lie in what he says.

This phenomenon of rent-a-cops in the US is farcical, volunteers, mall cops, gated community patrols. Imagine arming the residents association of your local road....

what, that people pay to become police so that they legally shoot people? That isnt hyperbole? which is a polite way of saying absolute nonsense. The guy is facing criminal charges over this.

Buona Fortuna · 14-04-2015 10:13AM

stunmer wrote: »

Wait, you can pay to be a cop in the US now?

Wow

We should have that here - there's loads of people I'd love to stick it to protect and serve.

White millionaire playing cop accidentally kills black suspect in taser gun mix up

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