S2S Cycleway - northside

Raam wrote: »

You'll just have to wait at the causeway until it's done so that you may continue your cycle.

Roads are great things.

fcuk me this thread is a depressing read

mrcheez wrote: »

Yep I always like a bit of pothole dodgems on my cycle home. Perhaps if I remove the rubber from my wheels I can use the tramlines as intended.

Never suffered a puncture there.

The reality is that that cycle lane is the best in Dublin, its a great spin, to a great destination (Howth) with great views on a sunny day across the sweep of Dublin Bay.

And yet I cannot cycle it without being reminded of how ****e our local governance is. Bins throughout the tracks, large poles and signs marking the end of the cycle lane and then the start of it again five feet later because a narrow lane traverses it (presumably some Fianna Failer held the contract for signs with the local authority). The abrupt end of the track at the wooden bridge without any thinking as to how the cyclists get on to the road based track on the other side of the road, or back across the road when the segregated lane starts again. The steps that intersect part of the lane without warning around Bayside (could genuinely kill someone cycling along while talking to a companion).

Or the fact that there's no thinking about the lane as regards other users. I have been out and back that lane probably almost a hundred times, I'm a committed cyclist, but I met my missus and toddler out there for fish and chips the other day and when he got out of the car I told him to walk over to me, forgetting the fecking thing was a cycle lane and having a cyclist come around the bend of the particular car park which adjoins the lane at high speed. I'm a cyclist and I forgot it was a cycle lane. What hope do the average car full of kids have when they park there? What hope does a cyclist traveling at speed have when a kid runs out from behind a car parked behind a van? There's no marking or segregation there to give the impression its anything other than a footpath.

I dream of a full segregated cycle lane, from the city centre to North County Dublin, and to South County Dublin. And similar lanes going throughout the city to allow commuters to travel around otherwise than in a heavy chunk of polluting metal, alone.

And I'm fcuking tired of waiting for something which really should be simple.

a148pro wrote: »

The reality is that that cycle lane is the best in Dublin, its a great spin, to a great destination (Howth) with great views on a sunny day across the sweep of Dublin Bay.

And yet I cannot cycle it without being reminded of how ****e our local governance is. Bins throughout the tracks, large poles and signs marking the end of the cycle lane and then the start of it again five feet later because a narrow lane traverses it (presumably some Fianna Failer held the contract for signs with the local authority). The abrupt end of the track at the wooden bridge without any thinking as to how the cyclists get on to the road based track on the other side of the road, or back across the road when the segregated lane starts again. The steps that intersect part of the lane without warning around Bayside (could genuinely kill someone cycling along while talking to a companion).

Or the fact that there's no thinking about the lane as regards other users. I have been out and back that lane probably almost a hundred times, I'm a committed cyclist, but I met my missus and toddler out there for fish and chips the other day and when he got out of the car I told him to walk over to me, forgetting the fecking thing was a cycle lane and having a cyclist come around the bend of the particular car park which adjoins the lane at high speed. I'm a cyclist and I forgot it was a cycle lane. What hope do the average car full of kids have when they park there? What hope does a cyclist traveling at speed have when a kid runs out from behind a car parked behind a van? There's no marking or segregation there to give the impression its anything other than a footpath.

I dream of a full segregated cycle lane, from the city centre to North County Dublin, and to South County Dublin. And similar lanes going throughout the city to allow commuters to travel around otherwise than in a heavy chunk of polluting metal, alone.

And I'm fcuking tired of waiting for something which really should be simple.

and dont forget now with the flowers in bloom the sutton bound side will be full of bushes/flowery things

a148pro wrote: »

The reality is that that cycle lane is the best in Dublin ...

I'm always disappointed to hear of new cycle lanes. Ones like Clontarf are so close to perfect, I think an investment making them seamless would be the best the council could make. The turns are too sharp, the junctions aren't pleasant and the segregation isn't adequately signposted, but I think that's the last 20%.

Shep_Dog wrote: »

Many cars park with their wheels up against the kerb such that the rear overhangs onto the cycle track.

During twilight last Feb, one of you fellow fcukers parked there with an empty bike rack sticking two feet into the bike path at face height - apologies again for taking it down before it caused serious injury. (video/gif if you don't believe me: http://gfycat.com/PartialWellgroomedEeve )

Mec-a-nic wrote: »

During twilight last Feb, one of you fellow fcukers parked there with an empty bike rack sticking two feet into the bike path at face height - apologies again for taking it down before it caused serious injury. (video/gif if you don't believe me: http://gfycat.com/PartialWellgroomedEeve )

Death trap. I hate that spot. It's always full of people hopping out of their cars. A few years ago I used to encounter a running club stretching on the cycle track there.

mrcheez wrote: »

Would be a harder case to argue though as a fence could be a trip hazard if low (or block access to the green area if high which is probably why it was removed in the first place).

The concrete blocks would cost a max of €500 to install on that stretch.

Anyway I've mentioned it to my local councillor who says he'll bring it up at the next meeting.

You know what they will do don't you?

They will put the concrete blocks across the cycle path to stop the cyclists!

I hope you all realise that this is pretty much the best things are going to ever be. We have decent roads, some decent cycle paths and still have open racing.

My bet is that within a couple of years, a cycle licence will be required (with the cost and training involved), mandatory helmets, fitted electric turn signals, hi-vis vest only and lights on at all times.

Irish Times - Ramps to divide walkers and cyclists on Dublin Bay route

'raised defined crossing points' for pedestrians, planting low hedges at other points, installing warning signs for pedestrians and cyclists, moving the cycle path in some locations and constructing new footpaths at others.

cyclists need to get it into their heads that they need to yield to pedestrians.

ah fantastic the solution to all of lifes land dividing problems plant a hedge. At least they had the cop on to bin the speed bumps, be a few people a year taking a tumble if theyd gone for that genius idea.

It really is bizarre that we spent so much money on building dedicated cycle paths and then spend even money on signs to tell cyclists using the path that they needs to give way to others!

Either it is a cycle path or it isn't. Whilst of course we need to avoid accidents and if people walk across then everyone should do everything to avoid (just like on the road) but having signs saying that cyclists must give way clearly indicate that the lane is only usable if no pedestrians are are it.

Why not have signs telling pedestrians to yield to cyclists and watch out?

mrcheez wrote: »

They have these in the Phoenix park now (I partly helped by sending mail after mail after mail until they relented). At first they were ineffective, but there are noticeably less people now on those paths (except weekends of course)

I have to wonder in the park would it make more sense to close of some of the other side roads and just use them for cyclists? The problem with pedestrians on the existing centre lanes is people parking their cars in the car parking space and walking on to what they perceive is a footpath. Or walking in the main gates and walking on what they perceive is a footpath.

There is huge scope for a dedicated segregated cycle lane for commuters going through the park, without upsetting people too much and without having to cross over loads of other roads / junctions either as the existing one does.

There are also a few cul de sac'd roads in the Southern end of the Park already that could be used for this purpose.

a148pro wrote: »

I have to wonder in the park would it make more sense to close of some of the other side roads and just use them for cyclists? The problem with pedestrians on the existing centre lanes is people parking their cars in the car parking space and walking on to what they perceive is a footpath. Or walking in the main gates and walking on what they perceive is a footpath.

There is huge scope for a dedicated segregated cycle lane for commuters going through the park, without upsetting people too much and without having to cross over loads of other roads / junctions either as the existing one does.

There are also a few cul de sac'd roads in the Southern end of the Park already that could be used for this purpose.

i think if you made roads "bikes only" youd still get pedestrians walking on/in it. just look at the cycle lane were talking about and the amount of people who walk in it

they were there yesterday

Clontarf.ie just posted an update at
http://www.clontarf.ie/news/s2s-cycleway-project-important-statement-from-cba-cra

The Project is scheduled to begin on the 27th of April 2015 for a duration of 16 months. Works in the Bull Lagoon area restricted from April to September so the primary focus is to complete the construction of the retaining walls and remedial works within this timeframe. Works on the cycle & footway route will begin at the end of May commencing at the northern end of the site with replacement footpath works on western side of the carriageway working concurrently.

the image from those glasses looks really crisp, are they HD?