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Is there a box that does it all?

  • 04-04-2015 9:52am
    #1
    beardybrewer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,926 ✭✭✭


    Is there a satellite PVR that has it all?
    1. Freestat
    2. Saorview
    3. 500GB PVR
    4. Good EPG with season links for both UK / Ireland
    5. OnDemand apps
    6. Netflix

    I've only been looking in to this for a little while and have more to learn. From looking around so far I don't think the above exists right? I've come across the Humax, Walker, and Amiko Alien which all look like good PVR possiblities. I think the Humax YouView DTR models can even do Netflix. I'm not sure if the region thing becomes a problem and if it is I'd like to find away around it (geo blocking?). Anyhow, I'd love to find out what are considered the best brands/models on this forum.

    The main thing I'm unsure about is do these freestat pvrs typically have multiple receivers? Where I use my old sky sat for freestat and an aerial to receive saorview? Is there much to the aerial install?
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  • #2
    obezyana
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭obezyana


    The Humax range and Amiko Alien range of boxes are good boxes. There is a thread on the Amiko you should have a look it will give you a good idea of whether it would suit your needs.


  • #3
    winston_1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭winston_1


    beardybrewer wrote: »
    Is there much to the aerial install?

    Probably about €100.


  • #4
    snaps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    If your a bit "Teccy" then the Amiko Ailen is your box. Endless possibilities.


  • #5
    beardybrewer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,926 ✭✭✭beardybrewer


    winston_1 wrote: »
    Probably about €100.

    Right, I'm assumming that's the price installed. So not something to attempt yourself?


  • #6
    roadrunnermick
    Registered Users Posts: 241 ✭✭roadrunnermick


    https://wetek.com

    the expansion possibilities with USB might help you

    Looks interesting


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  • #7
    watty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Off the shelf and truly, no.
    Serious fiddling is needed to have it all working as well as Sky Pay TV or a Freesat+ HD PVR just for Freeview.

    Anything with built in Internet features will have poor security and become obsolete.
    In Ireland, Netflix is probably best on UPC.

    So one system that really does it all PROPERLY and keeps doing it probably doesn't exist. My PC based solution for instance doesn't have Freesat automatic tuning, though it does have MHEG5 Interactive on Freesat and Saorview.


  • #8
    Kristopherus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    roadrunnermick wrote: »
    https://wetek.com

    the expansion possibilities with USB might help you

    Looks interesting

    Out of stock at the moment.


  • #9
    testicle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle


    Netflix uses Silverlight doesn't it? Which would rule out all the Linux based boxes


  • #10
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    testicle wrote: »
    Netflix uses Silverlight doesn't it? Which would rule out all the Linux based boxes

    Yes. or HTML5.


  • #11
    codar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭codar


    Kristopherus wrote: »
    Out of stock at the moment.
    I think the wetek is back in stock.
    I have one setup to run on openelec with a generic usb dvb-t for saorview and 28.2 free to air.
    It's not easily setup but has great potential. (can run oscam aswell if thats your thing)
    I think netflix will run on the android side of it.
    Haven't tried recording on it to be honest.
    It is something that will need occasional input from you though (freq changes, iptv streams etc) and will not run from out of the box. Tvheadend is a bit of a headache to setup if you haven't done so before.
    The amiko alien is a decent receiver but has its pitfalls (if you are using the e2 side of it, some plugins can be problematic)
    Another option would be a golden interstar xspeed lx2 combo receiver.
    It will give you Free to air, Saorview, can add hdd to make it pvr, good epg, a couple of on demand plugins but i think netflix is a no-no.

    Note, I am in no way connected to any of the above mentioned receivers wholesale, only commenting on them from my experience with using them.


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  • #12
    roadrunnermick
    Registered Users Posts: 241 ✭✭roadrunnermick


    codar wrote: »
    I think the wetek is back in stock.
    I have one setup to run on openelec with a generic usb dvb-t for saorview and 28.2 free to air.
    It's not easily setup but has great potential. (can run oscam aswell if thats your thing)
    I think netflix will run on the android side of it.
    Haven't tried recording on it to be honest.
    It is something that will need occasional input from you though (freq changes, iptv streams etc) and will not run from out of the box. Tvheadend is a bit of a headache to setup if you haven't done so before.
    The amiko alien is a decent receiver but has its pitfalls (if you are using the e2 side of it, some plugins can be problematic)
    Another option would be a golden interstar xspeed lx2 combo receiver.
    It will give you Free to air, Saorview, can add hdd to make it pvr, good epg, a couple of on demand plugins but i think netflix is a no-no.

    Note, I am in no way connected to any of the above mentioned receivers wholesale, only commenting on them from my experience with using them.


    Hi there , Just got rid of sky, would you think wetek box , replace it, or is the box too early in infantry


  • #13
    snaps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,138 ✭✭✭snaps


    roadrunnermick wrote: »
    Hi there , Just got rid of sky, would you think wetek box , replace it, or is the box too early in infantry

    I would wait regarding that box. I've seen it advertised all over the net but I have my doubts.


  • #14
    _Tombstone_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭_Tombstone_


    I'd never go near a box that's not out at least 18 months again.


  • #15
    codar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭codar


    Not that i'm an advocate for it but it has grown in support quicker than any other receiver i can remember.
    It is in its infancy atm but there is enigma2 being developed for it and due to be released fairly soon (as far as i'm led to believe)
    If it runs as good as enigma2 in mips receivers, then it will be a game changer (in my opinion)
    Kodi in openelec is a bit giddy for my liking at the moment and channel changes are a bit sluggish (but i'm two openelec releases behind at the moment so this may have been rectified, i'm not sure) but if your already using xbmc/kodi daily, this box is a lovely toy.
    Cannot speak for the android side of things though as i haven't really ran it.
    It wouldn't be replacing my main receiver just yet, but may very well do sooner rather than later with the ammount of support it is receiving.
    I got the dual sat tuner version and didn't have a problem adding a generic usb dvb-t tuner for saorview but saying that, i only ever had one sat feed connected to it.
    Also, any problems that have been highlighted on their forum are addressed and answered promptly.


  • #16
    dubrov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭dubrov


    From looking around it seems the Edision Optimuss OS3 is the best available box for Ireland. It is pricey but seems to tick all the boxes.

    There is another thread on it in this forum


  • #17
    NegativeOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 431 ✭✭NegativeOne


    dubrov wrote: »
    From looking around it seems the Edision Optimuss OS3 is the best available box for Ireland. It is pricey but seems to tick all the boxes.

    There is another thread on it in this forum

    To be honest the Edision Optimuss OS3 is a great box but the software lets it down spectacularly. Openatv is far too bloated, they're constantly releasing updates but they don't fix much. To me 5.0 isn't much better than 4.1. It still has random lock ups far too often.

    With the right software this box could be great but it won't be openatv. Hopefully now that its getting to be a more popular box a few more devs take notice of it and make a more basic stable software.


  • #18
    dubrov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭dubrov


    NegativeOne wrote:
    With the right software this box could be great but it won't be openatv. Hopefully now that its getting to be a more popular box a few more devs take notice of it and make a more basic stable software.

    NegativeOne wrote:
    To be honest the Edision Optimuss OS3 is a great box but the software lets it down spectacularly. Openatv is far too bloated, they're constantly releasing updates but they don't fix much. To me 5.0 isn't much better than 4.1. It still has random lock ups far too often.


    Didn't realise it still had so many issues. On openatv well it at least record and display 7 day EPG consistently?


  • #19
    NegativeOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 431 ✭✭NegativeOne


    dubrov wrote: »
    Didn't realise it still had so many issues. On openatv well it at least record and display 7 day EPG consistently?

    No the hard drive seems to unmount when it feels like it so I don't know if I'd rely on it for recordings. The EPG is equally as flakey, as the hard drive unmounts the EPG doesn't populate properly during the night. This box is becoming a real pain to be honest.


  • #20
    dubrov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭dubrov


    Thanks for that.
    I'd imagine the Amiko Alien triple tuner is worse due to poorer hardware.

    The Wetek seems to only have one tuner and is more of an IPTV box so wouldn't suit.

    Any other suggestions out there as it doesn't look like there is a single box that will do it all for the Irish market?


  • #21
    NegativeOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 431 ✭✭NegativeOne


    dubrov wrote: »
    Thanks for that.
    I'd imagine the Amiko Alien triple tuner is worse due to poorer hardware.

    The Wetek seems to only have one tuner and is more of an IPTV box so wouldn't suit.

    Any other suggestions out there as it doesn't look like there is a single box that will do it all for the Irish market?

    The amiko alien 2 is slower than the optimuss os3 but has better software available for it.

    An amiko alien 2 running Hyperion v4.5 will give you zero problems assuming you don't try installing loads of plugins all the time. The same can't be said for openatv unfortunately. It might work fine for a day, week or even a month and then you'll come home and it'll be green screening.


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  • #22
    codar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭codar


    Wetek with dvb-s2 module fitted is a dual tuner module.
    Dunno about the wetek with dvb-c/t/t2 module fitted though.


  • #23
    NegativeOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 431 ✭✭NegativeOne


    codar wrote: »
    Wetek with dvb-s2 module fitted is a dual tuner module.
    Dunno about the wetek with dvb-c/t/t2 module fitted though.

    A couple of guys over on sattvhelp have bought weteks and they have a sub forum dedicated to it. Might be of some use to anyone thinking of buying one.


  • #24
    NegativeOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 431 ✭✭NegativeOne


    codar wrote: »
    Wetek with dvb-s2 module fitted is a dual tuner module.
    Dunno about the wetek with dvb-c/t/t2 module fitted though.

    A couple of guys over on sattvhelp.com have bought weteks and they have a sub forum dedicated to it. Might be of some use to anyone thinking of buying one.


  • #25
    codar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭codar


    Linuxsat-support is also worth a look.
    They have a lot on there regarding the wetek, tutorials and a few backups to choose from.


  • #26
    dubrov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭dubrov


    codar wrote:
    Wetek with dvb-s2 module fitted is a dual tuner module. Dunno about the wetek with dvb-c/t/t2 module fitted though.

    You'd really need a dual s2 and single t2 tuner and it doesn't look to be an option


  • #27
    Casey78
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 873 ✭✭✭Casey78


    Ok apologies in advance for a possibly silly question from someone that doesn't know a lot about this type of stuff.
    What advantages would having one of these wetek boxes mentioned over saying having UPC ?


  • #28
    NegativeOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 431 ✭✭NegativeOne


    Casey78 wrote: »
    Ok apologies in advance for a possibly silly question from someone that doesn't know a lot about this type of stuff.
    What advantages would having one of these wetek boxes mentioned over saying having UPC ?

    No more bills


  • #29
    Casey78
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 873 ✭✭✭Casey78


    NegativeOne wrote: »
    No more bills

    So I can get all or near enough the same channels?
    Do they all need satellite dishes to work?


  • #30
    NegativeOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 431 ✭✭NegativeOne


    Casey78 wrote: »
    So I can get all or near enough the same channels?
    Do they all need satellite dishes to work?

    Yeah they all need a satellite dish. Google astra 28.2 FTA channels and you should see the list of channels you'll get also if you add an aerial to your setup you can get the irish saorview channels.


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  • #31
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    The important thing about buying a box is support. I have found that with alot of the OpenATV/Mips Teams that they are either not English or not geared towards the UK/Ireland market. I have a Gigablue 800 UE+. It runs OpenATv/OpenMips and most importantly ViX. The EPG and recording are stable. It runs KodiDirect also. It doesn't crash. This is a single DVB-S and DVB-T Combo. The Gigablue Quad Plus is the up to Four Tuner Version.

    Here are some screenshots of my box (Vix - Blue HD Skin).

    Channel OSD
    344972.jpg

    Inbuilt TV Guide
    344973.jpg

    KodiDirect
    344974.jpg


  • #32
    dubrov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭dubrov


    Thanks STB. I'm now thinking the Gigablue Quad Plus with Vix is the way I will go


  • #33
    Zardoz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,878 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    NegativeOne wrote: »
    A couple of guys over on sattvhelp have bought weteks and they have a sub forum dedicated to it. Might be of some use to anyone thinking of buying one.

    I wouldnt recommend the Wetek yet ,its still got issues and requires serious time for configuring to watch satellite tv at the moment.

    Its good for the Android side of things ,Kodi runs very nicely on it and its fine if you want to watch a bit of tv .

    However if you want to configure it to have a 7 day epg, have picons ,structured channel lists and run Oscam ,like an Alien 2 or Edision its a steep learning curve.

    There are alot of good tutorials out as Codar mentions and they simplify the setup if you are going to run Openelec which has TVFrontend and a 7 day epg but its still alot of work and the performance of the unti when watching tv is glitchy .

    There are people making backups for Openelec which will be a great help .
    Its a new receiver so it needs time to develop the software but its promising.


  • #34
    codar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭codar


    dubrov wrote: »
    You'd really need a dual s2 and single t2 tuner and it doesn't look to be an option

    Usb dvb-t/t2 works alongside onboard dual dvb-s2 tuner.
    Getting it setup from scratch is a steep learning curve alright though.
    I havent noticed it being glitchy when using the tuner side of things but channel changes are sluggish.
    Not an ideal living room receiver replacement yet, i admit, but a nice alternative to an android only box.


  • #35
    iunited
    Registered Users Posts: 15 ✭iunited


    I have a wetek play installed for the last two months.
    Twin satellite tuner, with xbmc.
    I have TVHEADEND all set up so I can watch the tv channels on xbmc on my pc,
    when I'm not in the main room.
    I'm very happy with it.
    On the Saorview side of things, I have a Sony PS3 Play Tuner, in one of the usb
    ports, as mentioned above.
    However, when I try to tune in the Saorview channels, I can't find any.
    Just wondering is there something I have to do in the initial set-up?
    Thanks in advance guys.


  • #36
    Thurston?
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    Have you used the PlayTV before with other equipment, & you know there is a good Saorview signal from the TV aerial point you're currently using? Or maybe it's a set-top type aerial?


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  • #37
    iunited
    Registered Users Posts: 15 ✭iunited


    Yes, I have used the PlayTV on my PS3, with a set-top type aerial, and it was fine.
    I don't have an aerial in my attic!


  • #38
    Thurston?
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    If the aerial is still in the same place as when you were using the PS3, & no obstructions or sources of interference have been introduced, then you would expect it to still be providing a usable signal. You could try moving it around a bit anyway.

    Of course this is assuming that your problem is actually caused by poor signal, & not say a quirk of equipment or settings.


  • #39
    iunited
    Registered Users Posts: 15 ✭iunited


    I can leave the aerial where it is and plug it into my saorview tv directly, and I have channels.
    So it's not an aerial or signal issue.
    I'm just wondering if I am not doing something correctly when I'm inputting the tuner configuration in tvheadend on the wetek, thanks again.


  • #40
    iunited
    Registered Users Posts: 15 ✭iunited


    I can leave the aerial where it is and plug it into my saorview tv directly, and I have channels.
    So it's not an aerial or signal issue.
    I'm just wondering if I am not doing something correctly when I'm inputting the tuner configuration in tvheadend on the wetek, thanks again.


  • #41
    Apogee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭Apogee


    iunited wrote: »
    I can leave the aerial where it is and plug it into my saorview tv directly, and I have channels.
    So it's not an aerial or signal issue.
    I'm just wondering if I am not doing something correctly when I'm inputting the tuner configuration in tvheadend on the wetek, thanks again.

    What are your settings for the tuner configuration/channel searching on the Wetek?


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  • #42
    iunited
    Registered Users Posts: 15 ✭iunited


    Apogee wrote: »
    What are your settings for the tuner configuration/channel searching on the Wetek?

    I am going to network, selecting add network, typing DVB-T Network,
    give it the name Saorview.
    It even gives me a pre-defined muxes drop down list, and I select,
    Ireland: ie - Maghera.
    When i then check on the status icon, it's blank.
    Thanks again.


  • #43
    Apogee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭Apogee


    Try using the manual settings.


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=87881120


  • #44
    iunited
    Registered Users Posts: 15 ✭iunited


    Apogee wrote: »
    Try using the manual settings.


    Thanks Apogee,
    I'll check that out over the weekend.


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