Have you ever met a killer?

auldgranny · 10-04-2015 09:42AM

DeltaWhite wrote: »

I work with a rapist! Although none of us are supposed to know (cheers to our bosses not telling us that we work with a rapist who did 6 years in prison for it) and also know a guy who was the first person to ever be convicted in Ireland of killing someone with a car.. He's got a long sentence to do and rightfully so. I knew him before he killed the guy. He wasn't a nice dude back then and I'm sure hes probably no different now.

Also - my friends bf killed someone by accident. It was a genuine accident and he was never charged over it. The guy that was killed was just an unfortunate messer and loved playing tricks on people. One day it went bad and he lost his life.

I think I would have a problem with this. I know the guy served his time and all but I would want to know if someone I worked with was a rapist.

Dangerous Man · 10-04-2015 09:43AM

Yes. A friend of mine was special forces with the Canadian military - told me about some of the people he killed in Afghanistan. Some scummers in Dublin who I knew had murdered people. Most recently was drinking with a former Quebec Hell's Angels lieutenant who had killed quite a few in his time. Those guys were pretty notorious in their day.

Pumpkinseeds · 10-04-2015 09:43AM

I came back from long-term sick leave in a job in the UK and the business had taken on a woman who'd been released after serving a sentence for killing her husband. It was a very small bakery and she was a very very very odd woman, who really shouldn't have been working there. I left soon afterwards.

fortwilliam · 10-04-2015 09:44AM

A guy who worked for me (in a foreign country) took a company car, got pissed and killed a poor man who was walking on his way to work in a bakery at 4am...
He skipped the country while on bail and was never tried.

Raging_Ninja · 10-04-2015 09:47AM

Worked in a bar which shared kitchen facilities with a restaurant (same owner). A guy who scrubbed pots in the kitchen went and stabbed some poor 18 year old kid to death on a night out.

MRnotlob606 · 10-04-2015 09:48AM

Yes, a former friend of mine was handed down a life sentence for murdering a man in the most horrific circumstances.I hope he remains in prison for as long as possible.

Red Kev · 10-04-2015 09:51AM

I worked with a guy in Germany who beat his brother to death.

Brother was having sex with his 14 year old daughter (she consented but it's still rape), so he got into a fight with him. Beat him with a wheel brace, didn't intend to kill him but he died a day or two later.

He served 8 years from around 1978-86, I knew him around 1990-92. He was a very nice guy, a great co-worker. He went on to make a good bit of money when mobile phones became very popular in the mid-late 90's, lives in Majorca now.

corner of hells · 10-04-2015 09:52AM

Yes a relative of mine killed a man years ago and wasn't charged with anything , oddly enough his son died in similar circumstances years later.

Macavity. · 10-04-2015 10:03AM

Trigger Happy wrote: »

I met some US soldiers once who regaled me with tales of their exploits in Iraq. They were murderers in my opinion, but I kept that opinion to myself....

I have a relative who was in Afghanistan. Joined the army when he was 18, had a very skewed idea of what it was going to be like. It's glorified to such a degree by recruiters. He was on the phone to his parents wishing he could come home only a few weeks after deployment. I saw a picture of him with a few other soldiers and they all looked so so young. It's ****ed up.

He killed but it is not something he would talk about openly. He was very glad he was able to leave in the end. I think the whole experience changed him very much, he has lost that enthusiasm he once had and seems very serious all the time. A lot of his friends died. He's living a normal life now though thankfully.

Greenmachine · 10-04-2015 10:07AM

Met a certain fella playing "King Henry VIII" on set on bray, had a bunch of his wives killed(the character that is). The filthy bugger.

Nucular Arms · 10-04-2015 10:11AM

auldgranny wrote: »

I think I would have a problem with this. I know the guy served his time and all but I would want to know if someone I worked with was a rapist.

This was kind of the musing that led to this post really.

How many people would you pass on the street who had something criminal in their past but you would never know to look at them. Kind of scary in a way.

I mean that guy I met on the luas was sentenced only in 2009. And of course, he had a fair few previous convictions to his name at that!

10-04-2015 10:12AM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

I've met a few. The first one was not even an adult. He had killed two people with a screwdriver. Didn't seem to have a care in the world though.

was that the young lad who killed two polish men on the southside? stabbing one in the head. horrible. all the friends txting laffing afterwards, complete pieces of ****!

OldNotWIse · 10-04-2015 10:14AM

I used to get my prescription filled by the crucifix killer. She seemed lovely. Apparently.... I'm not a good judge of character

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/crucifix-killer-karen-walsh-appeals-3218567

Vote 4 Pedro · 10-04-2015 10:14AM

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LDN_Irish · 10-04-2015 10:18AM

I know a lad who was convicted of manslaughter of someone he knew. I don't want to give too many details because it wss quite unusual. It was a drunken fight that went too far after quite extreme provocation involving details of sex abuse. I get on with him quite well, I found out after we'd been "mates" for a while. He's got a lot of problems now though, he's had a couple of suicide attempts. I've heard from others that he gets a lot of garda harrassment.

Wang King · 10-04-2015 10:18AM

Neighbour of mine stabbed his on/off girlfriend while he was off his face.
The room looked like a Pablo Picasso painting afterwards, doing life inside

TwoShedsJackson · 10-04-2015 10:21AM

henryporter wrote: »

Was served dinner by a killer and her victim once - at Jack Whites on the N11 :eek:

Memorably described as 'the Wicklow centre for riding and shooting' in a travel guide a couple of years later.

Sar Bear · 10-04-2015 10:42AM

Guy I went to school with (absolute scumbag) killed a guy on a night out.
Another scumbag I went to school with killed his dad. Madness.

Danbo! · 10-04-2015 10:43AM

I worked with a guy that we're not allowed to discuss until Monday week.

dirkmeister · 10-04-2015 10:45AM

Trigger Happy wrote: »

I met some US soldiers once who regaled me with tales of their exploits in Iraq. They were murderers in my opinion, but I kept that opinion to myself....

Got talking to an ex soldier in the States just last week, we asked him why he became a soldier...

His answer was "because they pay you to shoot people"

5starpool · 10-04-2015 10:46AM

PandaPoo wrote: »

My husband played poker with a man who went on to kill his wife. Stabbed her to death, sad story.

I knew those people through poker, very sad. Joan was a lovely woman.

Also, when I as on a J1 visa in the states working on a building site for the summer, I talked to the cement mixer dude regularly (think Michael Clarke Duncan for look and size), and one day he casually told me he was just out of prison for manslaughter.

It turns out that the building site (Far Rockaway at the edge of Queens in NYC) which was run by an Irish guy (who paid cash in hand to everyone, so not a legal contractor) essentially had to hire a load of locals as condition for getting the contract and it turned out all the guys hired as part of this (most of them only lasted a week or two though) were recently released convicts. I remember one guy who turned up for a week or so but basically ran a prostitution ring at the same time and he would be on the phone for most of the day and lots of women would turn up to talk to him each day too.

Between that, the daily churn of (mostly) different hispanic labourers, the illegal Irish blocklayers, some of whom were pure alcoholics, and the Irish few students there it was an interesting place to spend a few months.

murpho999 · 10-04-2015 10:55AM

I was in Siobhan & Brian Kearney's house in Goatstown , helping my Dad with a job.

She was very nice and gave us tea, and cake and was very chatty, he then came in and was quieter but seemed OK.

Was stunned a few month's later when she was found dead. My Dad knows her mother and people knew all along that the husband did it. Eventually they got enough to arrest him , went to trial, guilty and he's banged up.

Still saddens me to this day , they had a young kid in the house too. Made it more real when stuff is in the paper when you've met them.

crockholm · 10-04-2015 11:09AM

Second cousin did time for manslaughter in London.
A friend of mine in Chicago was a Sherrif who had shot 5 men dead.
Another Chicago friend was shot dead in a bar there last december when he got into a fight,drew a gun,shot the fellah he was fighting,but there was an off-duty cop in the pub who peppered him 6 times-RIP TmcG.

A traveller in my class was convicted of killing his own sister-though he is widely believed to have been a Patsy for his older brother who was one,mean,nasty,dangerous,MF-anyhow the bad brother was found floating face down in the river Lee a few years after.

OfflerCrocGod · 10-04-2015 11:12AM

I co-ran a WoW guild with Anders B the Norwegian mass murderer. He was a nice chap actually.

Jawgap · 10-04-2015 11:23AM

As part of an oral history project I was involved in years ago I had to go interview a string if WWII soldiers, sailors and airmen.

The matter-of-fact way some of them described the actions they were involved in was 'clinical.'

One guy (ex-Royal Marine Commando) - who looked like he could be everyone's favourite granddad - described an action he was involved in, including how he had crept up and knifed three sentries - it was only years later, he said, that the nightmares, anxiety etc started (what would now be called PTSD).

anncoates · 10-04-2015 11:25AM

After reading this thread, we need a another one for people who don't know a killer.

Zebra3 · 10-04-2015 11:25AM

I've met many ex-soldiers from Britain, US and Israel. No idea if they personally have killed people.

JustAThought · 10-04-2015 11:32AM

I met one and it chilled me to the bone - he sat there lying with his ice blue eyes and everyone in that room knew what he had done . People get away with murder in this city. Frightening.

Little CuChulainn · 10-04-2015 11:34AM

OfflerCrocGod wrote: »

I co-ran a WoW guild with Anders B the Norwegian mass murderer. He was a nice chap actually.

What class did he play?

DoYouEvenLift · 10-04-2015 11:40AM

OfflerCrocGod wrote: »

I co-ran a WoW guild with Anders B the Norwegian mass murderer. He was a nice chap actually.

Had just heard news about him earlier. He's threatening to go on a hunger strike if his PS2 isn't upgraded to a PS3. How about that Norwegian justice system?

The ironic thing is, although their system may seem ridiculous to us, it's actually successful apparently as they have some of the lowest rates of reoffenders.

Have you ever met a killer?

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