Have you ever met a killer?

Nucular Arms

I was on the luas the other day with my mum while she was visiting for easter and it was fairly busy.

A couple of seats opened up and I ushered her over (despite her protestations!) and took a seat next to an obvious scobe. No big deal there of course. After a minute or two he began asking me what stop he could get off at that would allow him to pick up "just two cans for walking with" and still have the shortest foot journey out to ballyfermot. I confessed that I didn't know and offered to look it up on my phone for him which I did. I was still playing with the map when he started on about how amazing these new phones were, and how you can look up anything on them. I agreed, and he began to tell me how he had been a promising footballer in his youth and had even had trials for QPR at the time. He asked me to look him up and see if there was anything online about it so I agreed and googled his name, but the first page was all about some horse trainer or other and not him.

At this point he tells me "ah well I got done for manslaughter there recently, put the name in and then manslaughter and it should come straight up". So I did and sure enough there were several news articles describing how he had brutally beaten a woman to death outside a hospital for "making up stories about his baby".

It was round about here where he got off. I got to thinking about it though and besides from when I used to work in a solicitors office, I have met three people in my life who have confessed to killing someone (quite unprovoked of course).

Two of them were on the luas and one was in johannesburg.

Anyone else ever meet a killer on the streets?

Do Sinn Fein canvassers count?

whiskeyman

I met Brandon Flowers on Grafton St the day they were playing here...

razorblunt

No, met a convicted rapist though, lad was in my class in school (Primary), was a nice enough fella then just fell in with the wrong crowd and fell out of school. Years later he raped his girlfriend (they had broken up just before).
To say I couldn't hide my disdain was an understatement.

PandaPoo

My husband played poker with a man who went on to kill his wife. Stabbed her to death, sad story.

Nucular Arms

Deleted User wrote: »

Do Sinn Fein canvassers count?

*Adopts gerry adams accent*

"Shinn Feyin huv alweys cadegorically denyed eny involvement with illeegle paramilidurry acktividy..."

henryporter

Was served dinner by a killer and her victim once - at Jack Whites on the N11 :eek:

hairyslug

My old boss tried to strangle his ex wife with a telephone cable (ironic thing was he was my boss in a phone shop)

Little CuChulainn

I've met a few. The first one was not even an adult. He had killed two people with a screwdriver. Didn't seem to have a care in the world though.

SurferRosa

A friend I had when I was about 14-18 had a little brother aged 5-9 at that time. He was just a normal "annoying little brother". Years later when he was about 18-19 he raped and murdered a girl. I was shocked when I read about it, I just remembered him as this little kid, now I see him as an evil monster

bodhrandude

No, but did catch a fleeting glimpse of the Killers on the main stage at Electric Picnic 2012 whilst running away from them to catch Bat For Lashes or was that Hot Chip at the Electric Arena. :pac:

hagoonabear

Know a few, grew up in a bad area so knew quite an amount

Little CuChulainn

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

I've met a few. The first one was not even an adult. He had killed two people with a screwdriver. Didn't seem to have a care in the world though.

David Curran?

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/trial-over-screwdriver-deaths-of-polish-men-nears-end-26654728.html

DoYouEvenLift

What was his tone of voice like when saying that Op? Did he seem proud of it like in a boasting way or was it in a pure nonchalant manner? Really can't imagine how uncomfortable I'd be in that situation, although I never even acknowledge the existence of anyone in tracksuits etc. anyway, generally to avoid their stupid topics of conversation like this. If I ever meet a tracksuit wearer capable of talking about something valid I'll consider changing my attitude.

D-FENS

I hung around with a neighbor for a while when we were about 10/11 who went on to batter his girlfriend to death about 20 years later.

DoYouEvenLift

D-FENS wrote: »

I hung around with a neighbor for a while when we were about 10/11 who went on to batter his girlfriend to death about 20 years later.

If you met him now how do you think you'd react?

Turtyturd

Yep, grew up with some and you could even tell back then that they were going to be scumbags. Have also interviewed/assessed several in work.

Also know a few people who were on the receiving end, most recently those two blokes who disappeared in Cavan last year.

Nucular Arms

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

What was his tone of voice like when saying that Op? Did he seem proud of it like in a boasting way or was it in a pure nonchalant manner? Really can't imagine how uncomfortable I'd be in that situation, although I never even acknowledge the existence of anyone in tracksuits etc. anyway, generally to avoid their stupid topics of conversation like this. If I ever meet a tracksuit wearer capable of talking about something valid I'll consider changing my attitude.

Hard to determine a tone of voice really given the skaaaaaaaaang of it all. He seemed fairly nonchalant about it though, and in fairness... "it was a an accident".

I normally don't go out of my way to befriend chaps like this on public transportation alright, but I wouldn't be overly fazed by them in general. It was more a case of humouring him I guess. It was a little uncomfortable though i'll admit.. moreso becasue of his fixation of the trials he had for QPR..

D-FENS

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

If you met him now how do you think you'd react?

I'd be disgusted and, quite honestly, afraid of him, it was a horrific crime.
I didn't have particularly fond memories of him before he did it, he was always a little scumbag, even at that young age.

Darkglasses

Not exactly, but I found out that a boy who was born in the same ward at roughly the same time as me was convicted of murder in a fairly high profile case. My mother remembers his mother well enough.

petrolcan

Two.

One stabbed his wife in a drunken rage in front of their two kids.

The second one pushed a kid onto a raging bonfire. TBF, he was only a kid himself when it happened.

D-FENS

Darkglasses wrote: »

Not exactly, but I found out that a boy who was born in the same ward at roughly the same time as me was convicted of murder in a fairly high profile case. My mother remembers his mother well enough.

Sounds like the plot of the Omen.

Nucular Arms

petrolcan wrote: »

Two.

One stabbed his wife in a drunken rage in front of their two kids.

The second one pushed a kid onto a raging bonfire. TBF, he was only a kid himself when it happened.

We know you didn't mean to man..

Darkglasses

D-FENS wrote: »

Sounds like the plot of the Omen.

I was also briefly mixed up with another baby (seriously)

It was a girl so my mother noticed fairly quickly

DeltaWhite

I work with a rapist! Although none of us are supposed to know (cheers to our bosses not telling us that we work with a rapist who did 6 years in prison for it) and also know a guy who was the first person to ever be convicted in Ireland of killing someone with a car.. He's got a long sentence to do and rightfully so. I knew him before he killed the guy. He wasn't a nice dude back then and I'm sure hes probably no different now.

Also - my friends bf killed someone by accident. It was a genuine accident and he was never charged over it. The guy that was killed was just an unfortunate messer and loved playing tricks on people. One day it went bad and he lost his life.

Yes. A guy that was in the same cycling club as me in Galway was apparently off his face when he strangled his girlfriend, fell asleep, and woke up with no memory of it to discover her dead.

He's currently facing a life sentence in jail.

aphex™

DeltaWhite wrote: »

Also - my friends bf killed someone by accident. It was a genuine accident and he was never charged over it. The guy that was killed was just an unfortunate messer and loved playing tricks on people. One day it went bad and he lost his life.

You can't just leave it there.
What was the trick?

Homer

Yes. My wife. Has murdered many a good song, dinner.. :P

Menas

I met some US soldiers once who regaled me with tales of their exploits in Iraq. They were murderers in my opinion, but I kept that opinion to myself....

DeltaWhite

aphex™ wrote: »

You can't just leave it there.
What was the trick?

He used to jump out at people and scare them while at work, he played all sorts of tricks that would give a H&S Officer a heart attack. Then one day he jumped out at my friends bf while he was about to pull off site in his car. Hit him with the car and your man died instantly. Got a bad knock to the head and that was it. Madness how one silly joke can go so wrong! Friends bf never been the same since. Imagine the guilt you would carry even though it wasnt his fault!

auldgranny

A neighbour of mine murdered someone. Everyone knows he did it. He is a dealer and the guy he killed owed him a lot of money. They were together and the victim "met with an accident" He got away with it in court. Didn't serve any time. He is a nasty piece of work.

auldgranny

DeltaWhite wrote: »

I work with a rapist! Although none of us are supposed to know (cheers to our bosses not telling us that we work with a rapist who did 6 years in prison for it) and also know a guy who was the first person to ever be convicted in Ireland of killing someone with a car.. He's got a long sentence to do and rightfully so. I knew him before he killed the guy. He wasn't a nice dude back then and I'm sure hes probably no different now.

Also - my friends bf killed someone by accident. It was a genuine accident and he was never charged over it. The guy that was killed was just an unfortunate messer and loved playing tricks on people. One day it went bad and he lost his life.

I think I would have a problem with this. I know the guy served his time and all but I would want to know if someone I worked with was a rapist.

Dangerous Man

Yes. A friend of mine was special forces with the Canadian military - told me about some of the people he killed in Afghanistan. Some scummers in Dublin who I knew had murdered people. Most recently was drinking with a former Quebec Hell's Angels lieutenant who had killed quite a few in his time. Those guys were pretty notorious in their day.

Pumpkinseeds

I came back from long-term sick leave in a job in the UK and the business had taken on a woman who'd been released after serving a sentence for killing her husband. It was a very small bakery and she was a very very very odd woman, who really shouldn't have been working there. I left soon afterwards.

fortwilliam

A guy who worked for me (in a foreign country) took a company car, got pissed and killed a poor man who was walking on his way to work in a bakery at 4am...
He skipped the country while on bail and was never tried.

Raging_Ninja

Worked in a bar which shared kitchen facilities with a restaurant (same owner). A guy who scrubbed pots in the kitchen went and stabbed some poor 18 year old kid to death on a night out.

MRnotlob606

Yes, a former friend of mine was handed down a life sentence for murdering a man in the most horrific circumstances.I hope he remains in prison for as long as possible.

Red Kev

I worked with a guy in Germany who beat his brother to death.

Brother was having sex with his 14 year old daughter (she consented but it's still rape), so he got into a fight with him. Beat him with a wheel brace, didn't intend to kill him but he died a day or two later.

He served 8 years from around 1978-86, I knew him around 1990-92. He was a very nice guy, a great co-worker. He went on to make a good bit of money when mobile phones became very popular in the mid-late 90's, lives in Majorca now.

corner of hells

Yes a relative of mine killed a man years ago and wasn't charged with anything , oddly enough his son died in similar circumstances years later.

Macavity.

Trigger Happy wrote: »

I met some US soldiers once who regaled me with tales of their exploits in Iraq. They were murderers in my opinion, but I kept that opinion to myself....

I have a relative who was in Afghanistan. Joined the army when he was 18, had a very skewed idea of what it was going to be like. It's glorified to such a degree by recruiters. He was on the phone to his parents wishing he could come home only a few weeks after deployment. I saw a picture of him with a few other soldiers and they all looked so so young. It's ****ed up.

He killed but it is not something he would talk about openly. He was very glad he was able to leave in the end. I think the whole experience changed him very much, he has lost that enthusiasm he once had and seems very serious all the time. A lot of his friends died. He's living a normal life now though thankfully.

Greenmachine

Met a certain fella playing "King Henry VIII" on set on bray, had a bunch of his wives killed(the character that is). The filthy bugger.

Nucular Arms

auldgranny wrote: »

I think I would have a problem with this. I know the guy served his time and all but I would want to know if someone I worked with was a rapist.

This was kind of the musing that led to this post really.

How many people would you pass on the street who had something criminal in their past but you would never know to look at them. Kind of scary in a way.

I mean that guy I met on the luas was sentenced only in 2009. And of course, he had a fair few previous convictions to his name at that!

Little CuChulainn

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

I've met a few. The first one was not even an adult. He had killed two people with a screwdriver. Didn't seem to have a care in the world though.

was that the young lad who killed two polish men on the southside? stabbing one in the head. horrible. all the friends txting laffing afterwards, complete pieces of ****!

OldNotWIse

I used to get my prescription filled by the crucifix killer. She seemed lovely. Apparently.... I'm not a good judge of character

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/crucifix-killer-karen-walsh-appeals-3218567

Vote 4 Pedro

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LDN_Irish

I know a lad who was convicted of manslaughter of someone he knew. I don't want to give too many details because it wss quite unusual. It was a drunken fight that went too far after quite extreme provocation involving details of sex abuse. I get on with him quite well, I found out after we'd been "mates" for a while. He's got a lot of problems now though, he's had a couple of suicide attempts. I've heard from others that he gets a lot of garda harrassment.

Wang King

Neighbour of mine stabbed his on/off girlfriend while he was off his face.
The room looked like a Pablo Picasso painting afterwards, doing life inside

TwoShedsJackson

henryporter wrote: »

Was served dinner by a killer and her victim once - at Jack Whites on the N11 :eek:

Memorably described as 'the Wicklow centre for riding and shooting' in a travel guide a couple of years later.

Sar Bear

Guy I went to school with (absolute scumbag) killed a guy on a night out.
Another scumbag I went to school with killed his dad. Madness.

Danbo!

I worked with a guy that we're not allowed to discuss until Monday week.

dirkmeister

Trigger Happy wrote: »

I met some US soldiers once who regaled me with tales of their exploits in Iraq. They were murderers in my opinion, but I kept that opinion to myself....

Got talking to an ex soldier in the States just last week, we asked him why he became a soldier...

His answer was "because they pay you to shoot people"