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1405 campaign news

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 49 newpsni


    Whoops I never thought! Thanks jalapeño!

    It's all gone very quiet in here. I'm remaining optimistic for some movement in April


  • Registered Users Posts: 206 ✭✭Jalapeno peppers


    I have returned my vetting and am waiting for a PCA date but it hasnt been completed yet think it usually takes a number of months?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭Icarus9


    I don't think you actually get word of it being completed, you generally only hear if there is a problem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭chickidee


    I wouldn't worry too much about declaring your AC score - with 800 people scoring between 77 and 60 there's probably about 50 people at each grade


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 412 ✭✭majgreen


    I have returned my vetting and am waiting for a PCA date but it hasnt been completed yet think it usually takes a number of months?

    from camp 1309 your vetting took 2-3 months if i remember rightly. You only heard from them if there was an issue. Silence in this case is a good thing. About 2 months after i did my vetting forms i did my PCA, and medical a few weeks thereafter. Fingers crossed you'll all get some movement soon


  • Registered Users Posts: 206 ✭✭Jalapeno peppers


    I hope so! The suspense is killing me but I guess at least I have more time to train for the PCA which is always a plus! I have heard some mad stories about vetting though, people getting rejected because of something their second cousin did 10 years ago etc.... Don't know if there's any weight to those stories but I can't even name you my second cousins so I have a bit of fear of the unknown


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 412 ✭✭majgreen


    I hope so! The suspense is killing me but I guess at least I have more time to train for the PCA which is always a plus! I have heard some mad stories about vetting though, people getting rejected because of something their second cousin did 10 years ago etc.... Don't know if there's any weight to those stories but I can't even name you my second cousins so I have a bit of fear of the unknown

    I thought they only checked your immediate family? Not your fault if a distant relative was a numpty! Lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 206 ✭✭Jalapeno peppers


    Yeah I thought so too it's probably people failing other stages and letting on it wasn't down to them!would hardly be cost effective to vet that many people for each applicant


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭chickidee


    Seeing as April is almost here (and the new financial year,) can anyone clarify what is going-on in terms of the financial situation? Did the political parties eventually come to a decision on the Stormont House Agreement? It hasn't had much media coverage.

    How can the PSNI work to a new budget for the 2015/16 financial year if they are not sure whether they will receive the £20 million reprieve which the Stormont House Agreement was offering?

    Usually I would place some hope in the policing board meetings, but we've yet to get any definitive answers there either.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 49 geezoh


    Haven't heard anything...but like the vetting forms it will be out of the blue...does anyone have a guesstimation of the time between pca fitness invitations to the actual date of the fitness test...?


  • Registered Users Posts: 206 ✭✭Jalapeno peppers


    I think I read somewhere that they give you 4 weeks notice... So I'm just training at all times like its 4 weeks away!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 412 ✭✭majgreen


    In campaign one most of us were given about 5 weeks notice. No harm in starting your training now, you'll need it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭fish2690


    NEXT MEETING IN PUBLIC: 2nd April 2015 in Waterside Tower at 2:30pm You can watch the meeting in public live on You Tube


  • Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭KevBo2015


    Can you actually watch this live on youtube? I tried with the last one and couldn't get it working hah!


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭fish2690


    KevBo2015 wrote: »
    Can you actually watch this live on youtube? I tried with the last one and couldn't get it working hah!

    Yea you can. Go to the NIPB website and there's a link to it there. Worked for me last few times alright.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭countrycop


    To be honest I can't see them mentioning much on recruitment other than what we already know, that we are all in for a long wait! The main topic of discussion will more than likely be the shake up in policing model/re organising districts


  • Registered Users Posts: 206 ✭✭Jalapeno peppers


    If they say anything about recruitment one of you guys should post it up here as I will be working and will miss it :'(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 444 ✭✭Sthm


    PCA dates are out. Received mine today but I'm thankful to say I'll be in GV instead of having to sit it again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭KevBo2015


    Not been home to check the post yet..... wondering if mine has arrived. This forum will see some traffic now haha comes in batches when they move, we move.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 444 ✭✭Sthm


    The PCA is also the same as last time - 3:54 for three laps of the same course and 26kg push/pull.

    Attrition rates will still be high again.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭fish2690


    Awfully quiet on here despite the fact that it seems people have received their PCA invites. Only one confirmed person so far and they have withdrawn from the 1405 campaign. I wonder of the 98 that are in the first batch how many are still in it...?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭chickidee


    I'm actually quite surprised that they didn't amend the PCA after all that talk.

    Maybe we'll hear more this evening when people get home from work.

    Good news none the less, best of luck to anyone up soon!


  • Registered Users Posts: 206 ✭✭Jalapeno peppers


    Yeah I reckon most people probably aren't in yet to check the post I am in that position myself can't wait to go home!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭KevBo2015


    I can confirm I have recieved my invite today. Very important few weeks coming up in my life.... good luck to everyone taking part in the PCA.


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭fish2690


    There will be a presentation on the 15/16 Policing Plan.


  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭Razer33


    Any news on recruitment plans?


  • Registered Users Posts: 208 ✭✭MissWillow12


    Razer33 wrote: »
    Any news on recruitment plans?

    None that I seen or heard just that the money that they underspent last year can't be used for recruitment sadly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 41 1PCPLOD


    Sothe guys getting the PCA invites.... What kind of score was achieved in the 14/05 assessment centre? Trying to work out what scores are getting these invites?


  • Registered Users Posts: 206 ✭✭Jalapeno peppers


    I was low 80s


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭HighburyLad


    78 and above got vetting forms, 98 got vetting forms in total, I would imagine there will be some who have since got the call from campaign 1 and with rates of attrition, they should get 1 squad of 42 possibly 2 squads if less is taken on per squad, I would say the next 100 or more will get vetting forms soon, nothing was mentioned about recruitment and I believe it's just see how we go, when you look at the cuts forces in England are having to make but yet are still recruiting you wonder why here can't make the quota.

    I know you have to take in consideration inflation but pre Patten there was 12000 officers there is now 6800, and the budget pre Patten was operating at 1.1 billion now it's operating at more than 700 million, near a 3rd of the budget shaved off however near half the workforce.

    I'm hoping they will take on as many as they can which I think they will, and hopefully thats the full amount. I would imagine within the next few weeks more vetting forms will be heading out, heard from someone in the know they are expecting high levels of attrition with the pca staying the same and the fact a lot of talk of budget cuts etc will put folks off, pay too. So stay the course folks, it ain't over til it's over.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 26 sophiekoby


    I can't post a link for some reason but belfast telegraph have an article online regarding pca. All recruits will be given 2 chances to pass physical exam from now on.

    Article posted on Belfast Telegraph facebook page 1hr ago.


  • Registered Users Posts: 206 ✭✭Jalapeno peppers


    Awesome! I am trying really hard to pass it on the first go but this means I can go into the day feeling a little less nervous and that should make it easier not to mess it up :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭Mop a top


    I can't post it either but it's a pile of poop in my opinion. There's a link in another thread to the information


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭HighburyLad


    Is anyone else feeling like this whole recruitment campaign has been a bit of a shambles, I want this job more than air itself. That being said it's taken a year to do an entrance exam and an assessment, I understand there is financial implications, but this is kinda crazy.

    With the budget issues, and now the pca, it's all over the show, I'm assuming the PSNI don't know what they're doing, and this isn't a bashing as I am pro PSNI and I want this as my career until I either retire or I die lol.

    That being said my mind is melted and I look at other forces, whom are under serious financial cuts but are still continously recruiting and recruiting recruits within a 6-9 month period, and are doing it in house, where as here it's a snail's pace. It is what it is I suppose. Incredibly frustrating. Thought I would just vent lol.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭Mop a top


    Could be worse. Campaign 1 have people still waiting who haven't had a yes or no and that started September 2013 lol!!! They're testing your patience ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 65 ✭✭Razer33


    Its just frustrating for everyone, if it wasnt frustrating or worrying then id be thinking this wasnt the job i wanted anymore.
    The uncertainty around 1405 is harder to deal with for me because i messed up in 1309 and then came back and massively improved on my narrowly missing out at AC but even at that it may still not be enough, despite a score which could have seen me in the 3rd or 4th squad in campaign 1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭Mop a top


    Lol totally get you. I messed up in AC campaign 2 cos I was debating doing it as I was expecting a call lol. Still passed but not enough to get processed in campaign 2. Now you've got newspaper reports saying they're making the PCA different cos there's not enough females passing it and I feel like I'm standing here screaming jumping up and down waving my hands shouting just bloody let me in then!!!!! Thinking you need to be a little sadistic to willingly put yourself through years of torturous waiting hoping and expectations to apply for this job/life. I swear this is more of an emotional roller coaster than being pregnant lmfao!!!!!

    Settle my lovelies, it will happen. Maybe at a snails pace but it will happen :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭HighburyLad


    Mop a top wrote: »
    Could be worse. Campaign 1 have people still waiting who haven't had a yes or no and that started September 2013 lol!!! They're testing your patience ;)

    That's a very fair point


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭Mop a top


    That's a very fair point

    Lol you know me, I like to stir the pot for a bit of craic!!! If I didn't have a twisted sense of humour about this job I don't think I'd be fit to do the job :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭HighburyLad


    Mop a top wrote: »
    Lol you know me, I like to stir the pot for a bit of craic!!! If I didn't have a twisted sense of humour about this job I don't think I'd be fit to do the job :D

    Lol, it is a fair point though, as you say it will happen, just have to muster some more patience.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 Poppyjack123


    Hi! Re the talk of reassessing females who have previously failed the PCA do you know what campaign it relates to? I applied in September 2013 and failed PCA by seconds in October 2014 so just wanting to find out if it applies to that campaign because obviously I'd love another shot at it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭Mop a top


    Hi! Re the talk of reassessing females who have previously failed the PCA do you know what campaign it relates to? I applied in September 2013 and failed PCA by seconds in October 2014 so just wanting to find out if it applies to that campaign because obviously I'd love another shot at it

    Campaign 2 only :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 B999B


    That being said my mind is melted and I look at other forces, whom are under serious financial cuts but are still continously recruiting and recruiting recruits within a 6-9 month period, and are doing it in house, where as here it's a snail's pace. It is what it is I suppose. Incredibly frustrating. Thought I would just vent lol.

    In my experience they aren't recruiting within a 6-9 month period unless you've got a very high AC score. I've applied to a force in England just over a year ago. I've been told that my expected start date will be July 2016 at the earliest if there are spaces available and if not it'll be January 2017. And my AC score was decent. I got low 70's in the 1405 campaign with the PSNI so who knows which one could come up first. If any!


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭fish2690


    Seen this FOI on PSNI website:

    http://www.psni.police.uk/psni_2014_recruitment_process.pdf

    Surely those figures can't be right....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 B999B


    I think the figures shown are "equal to or less that 81.25%". Seems about right to me.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭fish2690


    B999B wrote: »
    I think the figures shown are "equal to or less that 81.25%". Seems about right to me.

    That gives a figure of 743 in total then. I thought there were 908 people on the merit list?

    Would that be an updated total after people withdrawing possibly?


  • Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭The keyboard warrior


    Don't forget that the highest scoring candidate(s) from the AC was 92. There is approximately 100 people who scored over 78 who received vetting forms.

    The 900 figure sounds reasonably accurate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭KevBo2015


    Well thats it, we have one saying 900? the other 750? Both freedom of Information.... so one of them is wrong.

    How many got through the AC last time, i'd say numbers will be fairly similar.

    So it shows about 25+ got over 81.25 and the rest below this? Doesn't give much information of use to us really unless you scored that high.


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭fish2690


    KevBo2015 wrote: »
    Well thats it, we have one saying 900? the other 750? Both freedom of Information.... so one of them is wrong.

    How many got through the AC last time, i'd say numbers will be fairly similar.

    So it shows about 25+ got over 81.25 and the rest below this? Doesn't give much information of use to us really unless you scored that high.


    I'd say the person who put the request in got that mark and is wanting to know where he/she stands.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭HighburyLad


    Really interesting, it could be from people pulling out too, I know of an individual who has pulled out as they accepted a post with an English force, so it could be people whom have pulled out. I say this with wishful thinking lol.


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