Islamic Militants Attack. Again..

Roger Hassenforder · 03-04-2015 01:06AM #1

They're at it again:
al-Shabaab attack Kenyan university, death toll now at 147 people.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0402/691527-kenya/

some head lopping off might have gone on as well.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/africa/article4399953.ece

Hachiko · 03-04-2015 01:08AM

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kneemos · 03-04-2015 01:10AM

The African branch are proper crazy mofo's

03-04-2015 02:22AM

Jesus, I thought it was awful earlier when the death toll was at 79..

It seems like it was a bad **** up from the police/security forces too

Grace Kai, a student at the Garissa Teachers Training College near the university, said there had been warnings that an attack in the town could be imminent.

"Some strangers had been spotted in Garissa town and were suspected to be terrorists," she told Reuters.

"Then on Monday our college principal told us ... that strangers had been spotted in our college... On Tuesday we were released to go home, and our college closed, but the campus remained in session, and now they have been attacked."

Many Kenyans living in the crime-ridden frontier regions blame the government for not doing enough to protect its citizens from the militants.

CaptainInsano · 03-04-2015 05:02AM

Hachiko wrote: »

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Not shocking enough for you?

Nodin · 03-04-2015 05:07AM

kneemos wrote: »

The African branch are proper crazy mofo's

This bunch do seem to be as bad as the IS shower, certainly.

viztopia · 03-04-2015 07:20AM

Lovely bunch of peace loving lads them Muslims... Totally misunderstood

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

They're at it again:
al-Shabaab attack Kenyan university, death toll now at 147 people.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0402/691527-kenya/

some head lopping off might have gone on as well.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/africa/article4399953.ece

pmasterson95 · 03-04-2015 08:08AM

This isn't the muslims fault. Its Israels. Muslims are lovely. Its those evil Iraelis.

Streetwalker · 03-04-2015 09:43AM

Oh look it's another thread where people tar all Muslims with the same brush. Charming. Carry on.

Saipanne · 03-04-2015 09:44AM

The religion of peace.

El_Duderino 09 · 03-04-2015 09:50AM

viztopia wrote: »

Lovely bunch of peace loving lads them Muslims... Totally misunderstood

Ah it's not 'Muslims' fault any more than clerical sex abuse by Catholic priests is the average Catholic's fault.

These are crazy angry eejits and the only solution is education and greater opportunity for a decent standard of living. Happy, educated, middle class people who have a fair share in society don't go around cutting people's heads off.

I dislike religion but I don't blame it for these type of acts.

ConstantJoe · 03-04-2015 09:51AM

Streetwalker wrote: »

Oh look it's another thread where people tar all Muslims with the same brush. Charming. Carry on.

But isnt it obvious that 1.6 billion people who live all across the globe across many different cultures and lifestyles all have the same opinions, wants, and desires? And that the defining aspect that made these terrorists do this was that they were Muslims, and not that they were, you know, nutjobs?

DeadHand · 03-04-2015 09:52AM

Streetwalker wrote: »

Oh look it's another thread where people tar all Muslims with the same brush. Charming. Carry on.

So, these atrocities should be ignored just in case someone says something negative about Islam and its adherents?

Saipanne · 03-04-2015 09:53AM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Ah it's not 'Muslims' fault any more than clerical sex abuse by Catholic priests is the average Catholic's fault.

These are crazy angry eejits and the only solution is education and greater opportunity for a decent standard of living. Happy, educated, middle class people who have a fair share in society don't go around cutting people's heads off.

I dislike religion but I don't blame it for these type of acts.

I do. The moderates shield the extremists. And the right on do gooders shield the moderates.

Remember, it would be easy to spot any religion of peace by observing their extremist members. They would be extremely peaceful.

MRnotlob606 · 03-04-2015 09:55AM

Streetwalker wrote: »

Oh look it's another thread where people tar all Muslims with the same brush. Charming. Carry on.

Well I think has nothing to do with the people and more with Islam itself/

Saipanne · 03-04-2015 09:55AM

DeadHand wrote: »

So, these atrocities should be ignored just in case someone says something negative about Islam and its adherents?

Yes, like that case in Rotherham, its best to just leave them at it for Years, for fear of being labelled racist (because religion is somehow a race... or something).

Eugene Norman · 03-04-2015 09:56AM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Ah it's not 'Muslims' fault any more than clerical sex abuse by Catholic priests is the average Catholic's fault.

These are crazy angry eejits and the only solution is education and greater opportunity for a decent standard of living. Happy, educated, middle class people who have a fair share in society don't go around cutting people's heads off.

I dislike religion but I don't blame it for these type of acts.

Educated middle class people do fly into buildings. And educated rich people fund them.

Education may be the issue In fact. In radical Madrasas.

El Horseboxo · 03-04-2015 09:57AM

Cowardly fűcks. Once again going after the educated. It's one of the biggest threats to them.

The Backwards Man · 03-04-2015 10:00AM

Gotta love these threads.

Every rightminded individual knows the perpretrators are evil, sick and twisted and don't deserve to draw breath, but if you don't reciprocate their desire of destroying all Christians with destroying all Muslims you are somehow siding with them.

03-04-2015 10:02AM

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

They're at it again:
al-Shabaab attack Kenyan university, death toll now at 147 people.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0402/691527-kenya/

some head lopping off might have gone on as well.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/africa/article4399953.ece

Have you got opinion on this?

Saipanne · 03-04-2015 10:05AM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Gotta love these threads.

Every rightminded individual knows the perpretrators are evil, sick and twisted and don't deserve to draw breath, but if you don't reciprocate their desire of destroying all Christians with destroying all Muslims you are somehow siding with them.

Who is advocating that?

El_Duderino 09 · 03-04-2015 10:09AM

Saipanne wrote: »

I do. The moderates shield the extremists. And the right on do gooders shield the moderates.

Remember, it would be easy to spot any religion of peace by observing their extremist members. They would be extremely peaceful.

I live around and work with Muslims. They are extremely clean and have an extremely good record of not chopping people's heads off, is that what you mean? Cos there are lots of extremes and only a few kinds that make the headlines.

Assuming you're Irish and were raised nominally Catholic, what did you do about the child sex abuse or the IRA targeting loyalist civilians to show the world your disapproval? I didn't do much except complain a bit. I have no idea what the average Muslim could do about this type of attack except continue to not chop people's heads off.

They did join hands around the synagogue in Paris to symbolically shield the Jews from attacks from extremists. Does that kind of thing appeal to you at all or what would you like to see them do?

DeadHand · 03-04-2015 10:17AM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I dislike religion but I don't blame it for these type of acts.

Islam is the common denominator in a wildly disproportionate number of conflicts and atrocities in the world today.

Something is deeply rotten at the heart of Islam that it allows such murderous interpretations (like most other religions), murderous interpretations that are acted on currently and constantly (like no other religion). That it inspires such violent intolerance and hate toward anyone who happens to be different.

Most of the victims of Islamic intolerance are themselves Muslim. Islam has become a sectarian blight on the Muslim world. It has grown and spread to become the greatest threat to enlightenment, tolerance and freedom in the Western world since facism and Christianity.

The savagery of fundamentalist Christianity was eventually rejected in the West. The Muslim world has, largely, failed in making this leap. Worse, Islamism has been allowed to infiltrate and take root in Europe on the back of the suicidal dogmas of "multiculturalism", political correctness and mass immigration.

So we see, and will continue to see, this kind of Islam inspired murder in both the Muslim world and Western.

El_Duderino 09 · 03-04-2015 10:17AM

Eugene Norman wrote: »

Educated middle class people do fly into buildings. And educated rich people fund them.

Education may be the issue In fact. In radical Madrasas.

Yeah I'd forgotten about the 9/11 boys. Some of them had prospects but they are more the exception than the rule. Guess how many of the boys involved in the Kenya university shooting, had degrees themselves. I say degrees but I mean prospects and the resources to have a decent job and raise a family in relative comfort . I'd say almost none of them.

Islam can be used to tell angry stupid people who to hurt, but it's very difficult to convince educated comfortable people to go to a university and chop people's heads off.

Saipanne · 03-04-2015 10:19AM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I live around and work with Muslims. They are extremely clean and have an extremely good record of not chopping people's heads off, is that what you mean? Cos there are lots of extremes and only a few kinds that make the headlines.

Assuming you're Irish and were raised nominally Catholic, what did you do about the child sex abuse or the IRA targeting loyalist civilians to show the world your disapproval? I didn't do much except complain a bit. I have no idea what the average Muslim could do about this type of attack except continue to not chop people's heads off.

They did join hands around the synagogue in Paris to symbolically shield the Jews from attacks from extremists. Does that kind of thing appeal to you at all or what would you like to see them do?

You fail to understand the point. Its difficult to write it all out since I'm on a tablet.

*The do gooders ensure that criticism of Islam is not allowed as they tie such criticism to racism... somehow. This protects the moderates. Behind the moderates, you will find the fundamentalists. I think fundamentalist is a more appropriate word than extremist, as anyone who follows these hate filled books to the letter will obviously turn out hate filled.

So the problem is the idea. The religion. The books. The "crazy ones" are simply the people trying to fully implement these ideas. But no, we can't criticise that, because... (return to the *)

El_Duderino 09 · 03-04-2015 10:21AM

The Rotherham case was fairly disgusting alright. Treating Muslims the very same as anyone else would have sorted it out though. No special measures needed, just the opposite.

I'm a white man. I'm glad I don't have to apologise every time a group of white men committ atrocities.

Saipanne · 03-04-2015 10:23AM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

The Rotherham case was fairly disgusting alright. Treating Muslims the very same as anyone else would have sorted it out though. No special measures needed, just the opposite.

I'm a white man. I'm glad I don't have to apologise every time a group of white men committ atrocities.

There you go confusing race with religion...

Eugene Norman · 03-04-2015 10:28AM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Yeah I'd forgotten about the 9/11 boys. Some of them had prospects but they are more the exception than the rule. Guess how many of the boys involved in the Kenya university shooting, had degrees themselves. I say degrees but I mean prospects and the resources to have a decent job and raise a family in relative comfort . I'd say almost none of them.

Islam can be used to tell angry stupid people who to hurt, but it's very difficult to convince educated comfortable people to go to a university and chop people's heads off.

I don't have the statistics for islamist terrorism but most terrorism has historically been middle class in origin, by which I mean by the perpetrators are university graduates in the main or heading that way. From the red brigades to the A students running off to Syria. (The IRA was an exception).

It's just not true that poverty alone causes these acts or poverty alone, which exists everywhere, would lead to these acts of violence everywhere. It doesn't. Kenya isn't the poorest part of Africa either and southern Africa is free of head chopping as it is free of Islamists.

galljga1 · 03-04-2015 10:31AM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

I live around and work with Muslims. They are extremely clean and have an extremely good record of not chopping people's heads off, is that what you mean? Cos there are lots of extremes and only a few kinds that make the headlines.

Assuming you're Irish and were raised nominally Catholic, what did you do about the child sex abuse or the IRA targeting loyalist civilians to show the world your disapproval? I didn't do much except complain a bit. I have no idea what the average Muslim could do about this type of attack except continue to not chop people's heads off.

They did join hands around the synagogue in Paris to symbolically shield the Jews from attacks from extremists. Does that kind of thing appeal to you at all or what would you like to see them do?

Extremely clean? That is good to know. You do not want to get some sort of cross infection when they chop your head off.

galljga1 · 03-04-2015 10:33AM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Yeah I'd forgotten about the 9/11 boys. Some of them had prospects but they are more the exception than the rule. Guess how many of the boys involved in the Kenya university shooting, had degrees themselves. I say degrees but I mean prospects and the resources to have a decent job and raise a family in relative comfort . I'd say almost none of them.

Islam can be used to tell angry stupid people who to hurt, but it's very difficult to convince educated comfortable people to go to a university and chop people's heads off.

Ah but 9/11 was a Zionist/Illuminatti plot.

El_Duderino 09 · 03-04-2015 10:33AM

Saipanne wrote: »

You fail to understand the point. Its difficult to write it all out since I'm on a tablet.

*The do gooders ensure that criticism of Islam is not allowed as they tie such criticism to racism... somehow. This protects the moderates. Behind the moderates, you will find the fundamentalists. I think fundamentalist is a more appropriate word than extremist, as anyone who follows these hate filled books to the letter will obviously turn out hate filled.

So the problem is the idea. The religion. The books. The "crazy ones" are simply the people trying to fully implement these ideas. But no, we can't criticise that, because... (return to the *)

I hope you're not lumping me in with the do gooders. I'll criticise religions all day long. Inshrined sexism, total lack of respect for outside religions and ethnic groups. Tasent approval for slavery, taking women as the spoils of war. Original sin and substitutional attonment. Death to apostates, gays, working on the sabbath. That's just the bible. And don't get me started on the Koran.

Anyone who follows medieval ethics would be a raving loonatic by today's standards. Luckily almost all religious people ignore most of their religious text and follow 21st century ethics.

Most religious people do extraordinary Doublethink to forget the vile passages in their own religion but they rarely extend that courtesy to other religions. Sure most Christians think the 'golden rule' is in the bible somewhere... they just haven't gotten around to reading it yet.

Muslims are behind in lots of areas like sex and gender equality. But I can't blame my neighbour for the behaviour of some morons in Kenya

Islamic Militants Attack. Again..

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