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FF wants to "Reclaim the Streets"

  • 02-04-2015 10:16PM
    #1
    sdanseo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,301 ✭✭✭


    Apparently they want to set up a special Garda unit to deal with junkies, drugs, antisocial scumbags and the like and generally do to Dublin what was done with Limerick, by all accounts.

    Can't support this idea enough to be honest. We were just away for a few days and driving through Dublin today it struck me how untidy the place was, even leaving aside the drug use in broad daylight and other issues. We need to seriously crack down on this at least in busy areas at first.

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    Fianna Fáil has said a special Garda unit should “reclaim the streets” from people intent on public disorder and antisocial behaviour in Dublin city centre.

    The party’s justice spokesman Niall Collins has brought forward a bill to establish a new unit charged with improving safety and tackling petty crime. He described it as a constructive proposal to help clean up the city.


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  • #2
    Sheep Lover
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    Maybe... just maybe... the current Gardai could just do their job. That'd be helpful.


  • #3
    mad muffin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    I have to agree. I rarely go into Dublin. I had to go in yesterday with my wife and boy to pick up their pass ports.

    It struck me how scummy Dublin is. Loads if druggies, homeless, beggars and general tracksuit attired scum bags all over the place. And I ever only saw four cops.


  • #4
    Specialun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    Yeah..employ another special force to do the job of the orignal force

    Seems great idea


  • #5
    Desolation Of Smug
    Closed Accounts Posts: 760 ✭✭✭Desolation Of Smug


    Reclaim the feckin Banks...then reclaim the streets..


  • #6
    myshirt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    The Gardai have been used to police water meter installations. This been an appalling failure. Trust and respect, gone, eroded.

    That is fundamental. So lads, they have a bigger problem here than a few batons and water cannons will resolve now.


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  • #7
    One eyed Jack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    sdanseo wrote: »
    Apparently they want to set up a special Garda unit to deal with junkies, drugs, antisocial scumbags and the like and generally do to Dublin what was done with Limerick, by all accounts.

    Can't support this idea enough to be honest. We were just away for a few days and driving through Dublin today it struck me how untidy the place was, even leaving aside the drug use in broad daylight and other issues. We need to seriously crack down on this at least in busy areas at first.

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    Begs the question - what has been done with Limerick?

    As far as I'm aware, it's no different than Dublin.


  • #8
    keeponhurling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,274 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    After what happened before, I find it hard to believe FF even still exists, let alone take them seriously


  • #9
    michael999999
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    If we didn't have to spend so much money investigating this rotten shower of bastards in Fianna fail and there mates, there would be a lot more guards to chase down the junkies and fellows Robbin cars!

    Fianna fail can **** off, wasn't there justice spokesman the same fellow that was writing to judges to get convicted drug dealers let off last year?


  • #10
    tomwaterford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    There are more than enough laws to deal with this issue....its enforcement is the issue


  • #11
    DrumSteve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Ff did more damage to this country than a bunch of junkies ever did.

    They can **** right off.


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  • #12
    JustTheOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    Look how they cleaned up new York.

    It's possible with a bit of forward thinking.


  • #13
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,799 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Dermot Ahern has taken up photography.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/former-justice-minister-behind-the-camera-31106491.html


  • #14
    wendell borton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,335 ✭✭✭wendell borton


    They had something similar to that in NY but it got shut down after they shot 'ol dirty bastard.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_Crimes_Unit


  • #15
    michael999999
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    Look how they cleaned up new York.

    It's possible with a bit of forward thinking.

    Exactly.

    Now if Don Bertie ahern just handed himself in, that would be a great start from Fianna fail. Show they really mean business!


  • #16
    fleet_admiral
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    Fianna Fail should be barred from speaking. Then the party should be outlawed, like the catholic cult


  • #17
    JacquesDeLad
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 969 ✭✭✭JacquesDeLad


    If they lock-up these rent-a-mob thugs who attach themselves to water protests it would free up a lot of Gardai for dealing everyday crime, instead of having to protect public servants and people working on behalf of the state.


  • #18
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    The Fianna Fail Crime Family should have been made a proscribed organisation after they destroyed the country

    they will never come back and the 19% who vote for them in polls will be dead in 20 years time

    fcuk them


  • #19
    Adamantium
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    Yes.. lets push all the seedy behavior into alleys where nobody will walk and we can all quickly forget about it so we don't have to face it ourselves.

    Laws against loitering are laws against doing nothing.


  • #20
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Take their free travel passes off them.


  • #21
    Streetwalker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Streetwalker


    myshirt wrote: »
    The Gardai have been used to police water meter installations. This been an appalling failure. Trust and respect, gone, eroded.

    That is fundamental. So lads, they have a bigger problem here than a few batons and water cannons will resolve now.

    Unfortunately the Gardaí have lost all respect in a lot of communities over the water fiasco and they continue to do so.

    Anyway on the OP I just laugh when FF suggest anything as they are the ones who destroyed the lives of countless people in this country.


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  • #22
    Iranoutofideas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭Iranoutofideas


    Like Limerick?

    Sure they tackled the drug dealers that were so out of control they had no other option but apart from that the gangs in Limerick are very much still in operation with a whole new generation waiting in the wings to take control.

    And Willie O'Dea, the former Minister for Defence, was in cabinet for years while crime, poverty and social neglect spiralled out of control with the likes of Moyross and South Hill left to fester into ghettos like something out of a war zone.

    Meanwhile anti-social behaviour is completely out of control in Limerick amongst gangs of teenagers. There is a whole thread about it here.

    Willie O'Dea has a clinic right on the edge of one of the worst areas in Limerick for anti-social behaviour and he has done sweet FA about it, didn't want to know and walked past businesses and houses who were being terrorised on a daily basis without so much as stopping to ask people what was going on.

    **** Fianna Fail, a party of traitors to the state.


  • #23
    the evasion_kid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭the evasion_kid


    I'd have to agree, I drive around various parts of the city on a daily basis,you do see some goings on.much worse the last while


  • #24
    Saipanne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    Desolation Of Smug wrote: »
    Reclaim the feckin Banks...then reclaim the streets..

    Nonsensical.


  • #25
    Kevin McCloud
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭Kevin McCloud


    Bertie the the lying fkucer who played us all for fools for so long and nearly got away with it.


  • #26
    Aongus Von Bismarck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    fleet_admiral wrote: »
    Fianna Fail should be barred from speaking. Then the party should be outlawed, like the catholic cult

    Yes, that would work. :rolleyes:

    Let's ban things we don't like.

    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    The Fianna Fail Crime Family should have been made a proscribed organisation after they destroyed the country

    they will never come back and the 19% who vote for them in polls will be dead in 20 years time

    fcuk them

    I'm from the FF gene pool and would have been a member of the Ógra in Trinity when I was there. I won't be voting for FF in this election as I think they need another term on the opposition benches, but to suggest they will disappear is the type of thinking that comes about from those who have a Che Guevara t-shirt and pie-in-the-sky notions about the ability of radical socialism to benefit a great little social democracy like Ireland.

    FF still has a fine party structure and many fine young people moving through the ranks. Our challenge is to let the real working class know that their best interests are served through a strong FF party. There are challenges in taking back the large rump of middle-class voters who would be soft FF voters, but now find themselves starting to think that FG are the party that best represent them.

    You can have your big ideas about SF, a pay for nothing and expect everything culture, and raising the fist. It's a pipedream.


  • #27
    Redmen Rafalution
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭Redmen Rafalution


    It's amazing that they have only just thought of this now. Did it not occur to them to do this when they had 10+ years in government?


  • #28
    Streetwalker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Streetwalker


    Kevin McCloud wrote: »
    Bertie the the lying fkucer who played us all for fools for so long and nearly got away with it.

    No not us all just the gullible ones.


  • #29
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    I swear on me tash its daycent hash


  • #30
    Bobby Baccala
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,348 ✭✭✭Bobby Baccala


    Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »
    Yes, that would work. :rolleyes:

    Let's ban things we don't like.




    I'm from the FF gene pool and would have been a member of the Ógra in Trinity when I was there. I won't be voting for FF in this election as I think they need another term on the opposition benches, but to suggest they will disappear is the type of thinking that comes about from those who have a Che Guevara t-shirt and pie-in-the-sky notions about the ability of radical socialism to benefit a great little social democracy like Ireland.

    FF still has a fine party structure and many fine young people moving through the ranks. Our challenge is to let the real working class know that their best interests are served through a strong FF party. There are challenges in taking back the large rump of middle-class voters who would be soft FF voters, but now find themselves starting to think that FG are the party that best represent them.

    You can have your big ideas about SF, a pay for nothing and expect everything culture, and raising the fist. It's a pipedream.

    What a load of bollocks


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  • #31
    Redmen Rafalution
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭Redmen Rafalution


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    Look how they cleaned up new York.

    It's possible with a bit of forward thinking.

    How, by introducing abortion?

    It's possible that legalising abortion contributed to NYC's crime drop, as well as the famous 'zero tolerance' approach.


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