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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,514 ✭✭✭tanko


    Miname wrote: »
    250kg Charolais bull 1080 and a 220kg made 990. How can anyone justify this.

    No offence, but big feckin deal. Last March U grade Bulls weighing 400kgs could be bought for €830. What's wrong with the farmer who fed a cow for 12 months making a few quid for a change.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Miname


    tanko wrote: »
    No offence, but big feckin deal. Last March U grade Bulls weighing 400kgs could be bought for €830. What's wrong with the farmer who fed a cow for 12 months making a few quid for a change.

    I'm not knocking it, if it's sustainable. Do you think this lad will be out buying the same next year if he looses his shirt on them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,870 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Miname wrote: »
    250kg Charolais bull 1080 and a 220kg made 990. How can anyone justify this.

    Would these not have been bought by an exporter?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Miname


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    Would these not have been bought by an exporter?

    No a dealer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,514 ✭✭✭tanko


    Miname wrote: »
    I'm not knocking it, if it's sustainable. Do you think this lad will be out buying the same next year if he looses his shirt on them?

    I've no doubt he'll be there, the money he makes on last springs cattle will cover any loss on those cattle and his SFP will be his "profit" as it is for most of us.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭AP2014


    Miname wrote: »
    I'm not knocking it, if it's sustainable. Do you think this lad will be out buying the same next year if he looses his shirt on them?

    Of course he will be, that's what SFP/DAS and now Glas does. I reckon he won't even know whether he made money on them or not.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭AP2014


    This fella on drugs. What would lads give for cattle like these. I would be thinking closer to €900 than €1200.

    http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/2-smashing-limosin-store-cattle/9040619?offset=28


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,121 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    AP2014 wrote: »
    This fella on drugs. What would lads give for cattle like these. I would be thinking closer to €900 than €1200.

    http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/2-smashing-limosin-store-cattle/9040619?offset=28
    whats that on the wall of the shed. Is it expandable foam?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,541 ✭✭✭epfff


    AP2014 wrote: »
    This fella on drugs. What would lads give for cattle like these. I would be thinking closer to €900 than €1200.

    http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/2-smashing-limosin-store-cattle/9040619?offset=28

    If they are as described prob make 1100
    I couldnt give it but know lots that would


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    whelan2 wrote: »
    whats that on the wall of the shed. Is it expandable foam?
    It's a stable judging by the height of the drinker so could be anything!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 858 ✭✭✭tismesoitis


    Very much doubt they are 400kgs look a bit on yhe narrow side! Looks like yellow paint on walls.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    whelan2 wrote: »
    whats that on the wall of the shed. Is it expandable foam?
    Kovu wrote: »
    It's a stable judging by the height of the drinker so could be anything!

    I say yellow lime wash. yellow was the second most popular colour for lime white wash


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,487 ✭✭✭Charliebull


    has anyone heard anything about this years genomic testing or will we get the stuff in may when the cows have been turned out

    you would think they would learn from last year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 491 ✭✭LivInt20


    It's a new scheme this year under the new RDP and the Dept is waiting for approval from Europe.

    Expect some news in April.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭restive


    What breed of animal would have LEX on the cards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,921 ✭✭✭onyerbikepat


    restive wrote: »
    What breed of animal would have LEX on the cards.

    Official list of breed codes. See attached. No LE.

    Last page from;
    https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/media/migration/animalhealthwelfare/animalidentificationandmovement/cattlemovementmonitoringsystem/AIMBOVINESTATISTICS2013050614.pdf


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,936 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Did a quick google there Polish reds is what comes up???

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,121 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Did a quick google there Polish reds is what comes up???
    whats a polish red?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,514 ✭✭✭tanko


    whelan2 wrote: »
    whats a polish red?

    It's a communist that lives in Poland, a type of cabbage or a breed of cattle that weigh about 500kgs when mature, are all red in colour and look like stabiliser cattle. I assume they're a dual purpose beef/dairy breed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    I've a few heifers to sell and just wondering your thoughts on them.
    1) Fattening heifers - fatten off grass or sell in mart with another 6-8 weeks finishing required? They're fleshy enough at the moment.
    2) Breeding heifers - 2yo's fit for bull - Done Deal or Mart? What price range are these making?
    3) In-calf heifers due Sept/Oct to HCA. Sell now or wait till closer to due date? Again what price range are these making? They'll be 2.5yo at calving all AI bred SH, SI or CH with LM back blood.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    1. Mart
    2. Mart
    3. Mart


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Willfarman wrote: »
    1. Mart
    2. Mart
    3. Mart

    There was also the question of timing of sale


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    just do it wrote: »
    There was also the question of timing of sale

    You could put an ad on DD for the breeding heifers.....being sold in a mart on a certain date!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    This week. Just do it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    I haven't been in a mart in yonks so was wondering what they're making these days. Meant to book in the breeding heifers yesterday but got sidetracked with work :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Willfarman wrote: »
    This week. Just do it!

    Maybe from the breeding heifers but I see lads talking about fields swimming in water and growth rates being back. It could be a bad fortnight for selling? Farmers wont be buying?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭Mad4simmental


    +1 on the advertising of the bulling heifers on dd for the mart. The more pictures the better, multiple adds if needed.

    Same for the Incalf girls but I'd hold off untill closer to calving. We sold plenty of Incalf girls over the years and always done better about two months from calving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,173 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    just do it wrote: »
    I've a few heifers to sell and just wondering your thoughts on them.
    1) Fattening heifers - fatten off grass or sell in mart with another 6-8 weeks finishing required? They're fleshy enough at the moment.
    2) Breeding heifers - 2yo's fit for bull - Done Deal or Mart? What price range are these making?
    3) In-calf heifers due Sept/Oct to HCA. Sell now or wait till closer to due date? Again what price range are these making? They'll be 2.5yo at calving all AI bred SH, SI or CH with LM back blood.

    Personally l would suggest the mart for all. In two stages

    Ring the vet this week and get the first two groups blooded. Don'go telling the next lad what to do with them. What one lad would breed, another lad will feed. What do you care if they train them to bark and put them in by the fire once you get a good price for them!? Have them in good order. The best pen of heifers there. Where you are in the draw makes no difference then.

    Sell the incalvers as suggested once they are within a month or so of calving. Advertising pre sale would be a good idea. I wouldn't stick on your number or you'll be plagued by lonely souls. If you've their particulars detailed in the ad what more do they need to know. Let them be there on the day if they are interested in buying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Sound plan of action. Ad on DD for fattening/ breeding heifers with plenty pics and detail and sale date at the mart. Hold off until August for the in-calf heifers. They're in good order so not concerned in that regard.

    Cheers lads and lassies


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,241 ✭✭✭✭Kovu


    just do it wrote: »
    Sound plan of action. Ad on DD for fattening/ breeding heifers with plenty pics and detail and sale date at the mart. Hold off until August for the in-calf heifers. They're in good order so not concerned in that regard.

    Cheers lads and lassies

    And now we play the guessing game :P


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