Jeremy Clarkson suspended

Tarzana2 · 25-03-2015 11:44PM

Kailani Moldy Beech wrote: »

It's weird how someone who doesn't like Top Gear is derided for snobbery when some posters are espousing the virtues of fascism and supporting literally beating low-level employees to defend Clarkson. It's beyond parody.

When you bring up blue-collar workplaces in a derogatory way for no real reason, you don't really help yourself.

Desolation Of Smug · 25-03-2015 11:45PM

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

Clarkson is a boorish lout. He appeals to the moronic 'lad' culture. The type of nitwit who chuckles at the humour found in loaded magazine and has a poster of a "fit bird" hanging in their blue-collared workplace.

Glad to see he is being dropped by the BBC. Should have occurred long ago.

I always LOl at the wanna-be C-class nobodies who bandy this "insult" around. Better to own a blue collar than be borrowed up to the hilt to pretend to be a white-collar. You're a spoofer Aongus. A wanna-be-white-collar spoofer.

dr.fuzzenstein · 25-03-2015 11:46PM

Kailani Moldy Beech wrote: »

It's weird how someone who doesn't like Top Gear is derided for snobbery when some posters are espousing the virtues of fascism and supporting literally beating low-level employees to defend Clarkson. It's beyond parody.

Oh no, I do not defend verbal or physical abuse, it's out of order and the BBC had no choice in making their decision.
But I hate the sort view of "Well I work in an office, listen to classical music, read the Guardian and I would never watch Top gear" OK, so far so good, you're into something different than me, it's a free world and enjoy the things you like. But then they usually continue with "but you are a low-browed neanderthal knuckle dragging oik for liking Top Gear".
Well fcuk you (not you you, anyone you), you are an elitist, snobby, smug swine with a 2 foot poker up yer farking arse then, how do you like dem apples?
If you (not you you, anyone you) judge, be prepared to be judged back.

And where do people get the UKIP connection? Who said that? Are you drunk, insane or just a bit simple?

Tarzana2 · 25-03-2015 11:48PM

tomwaterford wrote: »

I am I the only person who taught top gear had run its course and was after going past its use by date with about 3 years at least???

No, IMO, it's about five years past its sell-by date.

It gets big audiences still... but lots of crap things do.

tomwaterford · 25-03-2015 11:48PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Yes you're the only one in the whole world.

Would you like a gold star?

Being fair it is awlful over scripted tripe....them things where they used drive across europe/elsewhere were alright like....but even at that they were just rehashed old ideas....why bother watching it....though I'm just the kind that gets wicked easily bored though

Tarzana2 · 25-03-2015 11:49PM

Sheep Lover wrote: »

Oh "Mr I don't care about Clarkson" is still here a week later.

Shocking.

I'm going for 100+ posts in the thread, I hope I get my gold star.

Harry Palmr · 25-03-2015 11:49PM

"White Van Man"/White European Man is now a fair target for all sorts - esp Guardian writers (hon exception of John Harris) and the Labour party in England.

Tarzana2 · 25-03-2015 11:49PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Yes you're the only one in the whole world.

Would you like a gold star?

Tarzana2 wrote: »

I'm going for 100+ posts in the thread, I hope I get my gold star.

:eek::eek::eek:

Tombi! · 25-03-2015 11:50PM

Desolation Of Smug wrote: »

I always LOl at the wanna-be C-class nobodies who bandy this "insult" around. Better to own a blue collar than be borrowed up to the hilt to pretend to be a white-collar. You're a spoofer Aongus. A wanna-be-white-collar spoofer.

Learn to play nice. Between this and your previous post quoting Aongus, you better change your posting style very quickly.

londonbus · 25-03-2015 11:50PM

Let's look at the facts shall we?

TG presenters spent two hours in the pub - keeping a helicopter waiting.

They then got to a hotel where the kitchen had closed. Probably while they spent two hours drinking.

It is fair to assume that alcoholic beverages were consumed by some or all of those present..

Mr Clarkson lost self control because the kitchen was closed.

He shouted at yer man and then struck him.

North Yorkshire Police are investigating - potentially a case of common assault.

The BBC had no choice. I can see that the TG producer did not raise this - you can see the firestorm he is now on the receving end of this.

Clarkson has gone from shooting his mouth off to whacking someone. Quite a difference. In most firms, if someone did that they'd be suspended and out the door rapidly. Talent or not, you cannot have someone physically attacking colleagues.

Clarkson had dug himself in deeper and had been on more warnings than cold cheese platters. He is the author of his own misfortune.

Sky has said that they won't hire him. If the police investigation results in criminal charges being laid I suspect Clarkson is finished - no broadcaster would want to be associated with him.

30 minutes of verbal abuse was taken because "Clarkson's the talent". Talented arsehold maybe.

25-03-2015 11:51PM

It has been quite repetitive over the last few years. There's only so many road trips you can take before it seems samey, and the 'spontaneous' banter never changes. It's fine to watch, but at the very least needed a revamp to keep it current.

They are right about the Prius, I'll give them that.

ETA: There's some obsession with The Guardian on this thread, rivalling the obsession with Clarkson.

londonbus · 25-03-2015 11:52PM

Oh and Clarkson's contract expires on 31 March - next Tuesday. I think tbe BBC can afford to cover that...

Tarzana2 · 25-03-2015 11:52PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Couldn't agree more with this. It's hilarious the amount of people who don't realise that Clarkson doesn't believe half of what Clarkson says.

I'd say a lot of people know he's just going out of his way to try and provoke, it's really obvious.

Harry Palmr · 25-03-2015 11:54PM

Literalism is another enemy in the modern age.

Tarzana2 · 25-03-2015 11:54PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

To be fair it's not far removed from your derogatory remarks about a 'stupid macho culture'.

Well, the point there was that both blue-collar and white-collar workplaces can have that element, NOT that either workplace are just that element and nothing else. I would have thought that was clear from my post but I guess not.

Renegade Mechanic · 26-03-2015 12:00AM

I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around the kind of man that can listen to a twenty minute marathon of verbal abuse. That's just not normal.

Madam · 26-03-2015 12:00AM

Has anyone mentioned old guys in blue jeans wearing suit jackets yet?;-)

El_Duderino 09 · 26-03-2015 12:02AM

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Oh no, I do not defend verbal or physical abuse, it's out of order and the BBC had no choice in making their decision.
But I hate the sort view of "Well I work in an office, listen to classical music, read the Guardian and I would never watch Top gear" OK, so far so good, you're into something different than me, it's a free world and enjoy the things you like. But then they usually continue with "but you are a low-browed neanderthal knuckle dragging oik for liking Top Gear".
Well fcuk you (not you you, anyone you), you are an elitist, snobby, smug swine with a 2 foot poker up yer farking arse then, how do you like dem apples?
If you (not you you, anyone you) judge, be prepared to be judged back.

And where do people get the UKIP connection? Who said that? Are you drunk, insane or just a bit simple?

Psst... You're still doing it. (Stereotyping, that is)

Tarzana2 · 26-03-2015 12:03AM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

I get your point, but the implication that all macho culture is stupid is just as much of a silly generalisation. Perhaps that isn't what you were trying to say, but it read that way to me at least.

I do consider overtly OTT macho culture a bit thick. Probably judgmental but there you go.

KKkitty · 26-03-2015 12:03AM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around the kind of man that can listen to a twenty minute marathon of verbal abuse. That's just not normal.

Have to agree with you. 5 minutes tops but I'd be gone after that.

26-03-2015 12:03AM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around the kind of man that can listen to a twenty minute marathon of verbal abuse. That's just not normal.

Dangerously close to blaming the victim for the assault there. He might have been cornered by Clarkson, his being the abused party doesn't make him abnormal.

I can't get my head around the kind of man who'll pick on a subordinate for twenty minutes, followed by an assault, because his dinner wasn't on the table.

El_Duderino 09 · 26-03-2015 12:04AM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around the kind of man that can listen to a twenty minute marathon of verbal abuse. That's just not normal.

The guy's powerful and a bully. He bullied the guy based on his power and influence in his job. Get it yet?

Eutow · 26-03-2015 12:09AM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Probably more normal than decking someone without any consideration of the consequences.

If somebody didn't want to throw a punch back, then the other alternative is to walk away. Better than standing there and listening to that abuse.

Renegade Mechanic · 26-03-2015 12:12AM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Probably more normal than decking someone without any consideration of the consequences.

Nah. Nah, it just isn't. Nothing is worth that. Consequences be damned, people in those positions generally don't have enough to take for the "big fish" to be able to intimidate and bully them with, without sustaining injuries to their person. I should know, Ive left that crap behind enpugh times.
Twenty minutes like. There's definitely something else here that we're not being told.

dr.fuzzenstein · 26-03-2015 12:13AM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Psst... You're still doing it. (Stereotyping, that is)

Of course I am. I like Tog Gear, so I must be some kind of menial worker who likes to go down t' pub after an 'ard days work and down a couple of pints. Then I go home, straight into the shed where I tinker on the lawnmower or the car or something else equally as manly, only pausing to look at the various page threes stuck upon my wall. On t'weekend I go down to the sportsground and cheer on my local team, whom I love more than my wife.

:rolleyes:
Yes, that's me down to a t.
So of course the people who describe me as such must be tofu-eating Guardian readers who are concerned about their CO2 output, who wear suit and tie, listen to classical music, watch BBC 3 and 4, drive a Prius and go to the opera and are most likely working in HR or maybe as advertising executives or perhaps graphic designers and probably have more degrees than I have Led Zeppelin albums. :P

Renegade Mechanic · 26-03-2015 12:15AM

Kailani Moldy Beech wrote: »

You've made a lot of mistakes.

That's the difference between us. I'm not so far up my own hole as to be incapable of admitting the fact. Funnily enough, neither is Clarkson.

Wulfie · 26-03-2015 12:17AM

He's a prick ,who couldn't change a fugkin tyre. Thinks he understands under steer and over steer.
He does make a few funny quips , but he will always be a proper Kunt.

Dyr · 26-03-2015 12:20AM

Candie wrote: »

ETA: There's some obsession with The Guardian on this thread, rivalling the obsession with Clarkson.

You can't just say "the guardian" in a clarkson thread! You need prefixes!

Something like: "The wind harvesting, sustainable hemp wearing, boutique festival organizing, bicycle repairing equalitistas at the Guardian"

Fuxache

Wulfie · 26-03-2015 12:20AM

Wulfie wrote: »

He's a prick ,who couldn't change a fugkin tyre. Thinks he understands under steer and over steer.
He does make a few funny quips , but he will always be a proper Kunt.

Please moderators if my choice of language is banable . I would appreciate a warning .

BorneTobyWilde · 26-03-2015 12:21AM

Ronnie O'sullivan should get job. He hates snooker, he needs an outlet . Plus he would draw a crowd and be fun . I would watch that .He's a character bit like Clarkson. He would also be on edge.

Jeremy Clarkson suspended

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