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Jeremy Clarkson suspended

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    The Clarkson Defence League are brilliantly deluded.

    I hope they carry on with their nonsense as it's giving me far more entertainment than the odious pr*ck himself ever did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,804 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Yes, it says very little. I have seen rows where people have struck the other unintentionally. People grabbing at someone, going for a jacket and catching their lip. Or when the other person is trying to break free and arms are flailing about. Sh1t happens. Like said, a complete lack of specificity in the report.

    Going for a jacket of grabbing someone is also wrong.

    He reported himself. Which tells me you didn't even read the post you quoted.

    Sadly, I have read your post and I think you are naive if you believe that Clarkson reported the incident out of any other reason than self-preservation.

    Why people would defend this guy is beyond me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,423 ✭✭✭chupacabra


    Justice done then I guess. Honestly I dont believe we're hearing the full story at all but all the same, if he struck Oisín then he had to go. I wonder how many jobs will be lost from the fallout of this though? Top Gear isnt just 3 men.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 262 ✭✭Bench Press


    I still can't believe this guy had the gall to present himself to a&e with a fat lip, its preposterous


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    The worst thing about this whole story is how the English news are pronouncing the name "Oisin"

    They say it like "Oooshheeen"


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Well, at least it's not a thread about water charges. Same intelligence level though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,153 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    I thought Clarkson was funny, but christ, it's not that hard to admit he behaved like a complete arsehole. Some people would defend the indefensible.
    Gary Glitter had fans supporting him outside court the other week


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    Cienciano wrote: »
    I thought Clarkson was funny, but christ, it's not that hard to admit he behaved like a complete arsehole. Some people would defend the indefensible.
    Gary Glitter had fans supporting him outside court the other week

    Giving someone a dig = Peado

    ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,211 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    He shouldn't have been on a warning to begin with. The fact that he was shows that the morons at the BBC and more about pleasing certain sections of society these days than they are about anything else. These are the same tossers that okay'd the editing of the Major's language the last time Faulty Towers was shown.

    What a nonsense question. To be specific about the assault would not, quite obviously, have meant them using language like you just did and the fact that the BBC purposefully used very ambiguous language when referring to the incident, to me screams deliberate agenda driven ambiguity. If I am wrong, we will find out, but like I keep saying and not one person has addressed this point, is: had this been a straight out assault where Clarkson just punched Oisin in the face, why did Oisin not report the matter him himself? Or why did the crew not report him? In fact, why did the hotel witnesses or the hotel staff not call the police? And the answer to all that can only be that all present felt it something of a magnitude that would be best dealt with by those concerned.

    The details are likely to be debated in court at some point. 30 second conversation with a solicitor would ensure nobody says more than absolutely necessary right now. Only the salient facts which aren't in dispute have been given out. Think about it for 5 seconds.

    Are you like this with every topic you discuss or is this case different for you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,426 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Cienciano wrote: »
    I thought Clarkson was funny, but christ, it's not that hard to admit he behaved like a complete arsehole. Some people would defend the indefensible.
    Gary Glitter had fans supporting him outside court the other week

    Look at the fans of all the Prima Donna 'talent' and you will find them defending everything they do and say, ranges from Clarkson to Evans to Watkins, you will find folk excusing their behaviour and it is always someone elses fault


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    That obviously isn't the point being made.

    Mentions defending the indefensible and then gives an example of a peado.

    Seems like a connection is trying to be made.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,211 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Giving someone a dig = Peado

    ?

    Nope.

    Was that even remotely implied? Nope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    Strumms wrote: »
    The Clarkson excusers around here are some deluded bunch. The reality is if any of them were victim to an assault both verbally and physically in their place of work they would be straight away complaining and looking for the perpetrator to be sacked, anyone would, nobody needs a work environment where that kind of hostile and dangerous atmosphere can hang over people and manifest itself out of the blue, such as an argument or a perception of incompetence on behalf of somone else, it would be unnatural otherwise.

    Instead the Clarkson sympathisers show their true colours, clutching at straws by throwing mud and trying to characterise the victim in a negative light. Oisin Tymon has remained silent until today where he made what I felt was a very dignified statement whereas the accused has been mouthing off at any opportunity, slagging off his employer and made nothing of a sincere apology and as for the other two.... A total lack of class all around.

    Anyone who has the mindset of or sticks up for Clarkson in this instance is an idiot pure and simple and just pissed because their favourite Tv show may be no more, there are sometimes bigger principles at steak then your poxy TV show, get a ****in grip and accept an invite back to the real world any time you like.

    Jeeeesus H, look mate, I can 100% assure you that is a load of crap. If you think Clarkson is a prick then I wholeheartedly assure you, you have no idea what a prick actually is.

    I've worked for people that Clarkson himself has proven he wouldn't hold a candle to in the dickhead department. You fight back, or you move on. And accept that the former will generally result in the latter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    This. 20 minutes of drunken abuse is hardly normal in any workplace. People seem to be focusing on the physical aspect of this but I don't think it's the most significant part.

    Does that not strike you as a bit.... weird? Can yoy actually imagine standing there for that amount of time while someone shouts at you? Youd obviously deck him after one. Anyone would. There is something very off about this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    I still can't believe this guy had the gall to present himself to a&e with a fat lip, its preposterous
    Undiagnosed head wound? Excessive bleeding? Tooth piercing the lip, possibly requiring stitching? Underlying medical condition, such as hemophilia? Do you know his medical history, because I sure as hell don't.

    As a first aider, I'll always recommend someone visit at least their GP, if they receive a injury that they are not comfortable with, no matter how minor it may appear. Christ, I've seen someone lose a finger due to a paper cut. It's not for you to decide what wasn't appropriate medical treatment.

    It was a swollen lip, yes. But do you know how bad it was? I don't. What if his lip was the size of a Dacia Sandero?

    Anyway, it was probably SOP for an incident like this.

    If it had just been words exchanged, he probably could have talked his way out of it again. But the second it turned into a physical incident, he was doomed. And he made it physical, by his own admission.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,463 ✭✭✭CruelCoin


    Dry your eyes

    No need really. He'll make good tv elsewhere, and i'll continue to read his books (and those of Mays for that matter). I'm not going to lose any entertainment out of all of this.

    I don't particularly care that he was sacked. I care about how he was sacked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,153 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Giving someone a dig = Peado

    ?

    No, people supporting someone in show business and failing to admit they did wrong. It's strange when you think about it. People thought Clarkson was great the way he acted on Top Gear so they make excuses for his complete arséhole behaviour. Pretending it didn't happen, doubting Oisin Tymons story, actually thinking he deserved it. For the sole reason that Clarkson was good on Top Gear!
    Obviously Gary Glitter's crimes were more serious, and not all fans defend them, but the same principle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    Dempsey wrote: »
    So despite a damning report against Clarkson, the BBC are going to continue paying his wages until the end of contract. Some show of support to the victim there!!

    They'll also be using their public funds to broadcast him repeatedly on BBC2, making advertisement money aswell, for the foreseeable future. Real good guys really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    There goes the Knighthood for services to "telling it like it is."
    End of the road has it sewn up now surely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,211 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I have listened to people wax lyrical about how hylarious TG is for the last few years but couldn't find the humour in it. I thought it was a fairly stupid show appealing to reasonably stupid people.

    After reading the opinions of Jezzer fans I've had my prejudice confirmed so I'm pretty happy with myself.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,211 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    In some workplaces? maybe, depends on the workplace really. Do you really think it would have ended well for yer man if he decked someone as famous as Clarkson? I doubt it.

    You're obviously not as hard as Renegade Maniac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,211 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    This kind of post comes across as every bit as obnoxious as the people unreasonably defending him. No one is pretending top gear was highbrow television, but it was a good, funny bit of light entertainment. I really can't see how liking it makes someone stupid.

    Or maybe it was a joke based on the ridiculousness of the continuous defence of JC's actions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,529 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    I have listened to people wax lyrical about how hylarious TG is for the last few years but couldn't find the humour in it. I thought it was a fairly stupid show appealing to reasonably stupid people.

    After reading the opinions of Jezzer fans I've had my prejudice confirmed so I'm pretty happy with myself.

    Maybe the antiques roadshow is better suited to your taste


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    In some workplaces? maybe, depends on the workplace really. Do you really think it would have ended well for yer man if he decked someone as famous as Clarkson? I doubt it.

    Well, of course. If a member of staff had decided to punch Clarkson, "Jezzer" would've just shrugged it off, shaken hands with your man and they'd have gone for a pint together. Physical assault is part and parcel of any workplace.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,575 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    I have listened to people wax lyrical about how hylarious TG is for the last few years but couldn't find the humour in it. I thought it was a fairly stupid show appealing to reasonably stupid people.

    After reading the opinions of Jezzer fans I've had my prejudice confirmed so I'm pretty happy with myself.

    Would you like some balsamic vinegar for your tofu and sun dried tomato salad?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,092 ✭✭✭househero


    The BBC is full of Paedos and Racists. What do you expect?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,211 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Well, of course. If a member of staff had decided to punch Clarkson, "Jezzer" would've just shrugged it off, shaken hands with your man and they'd have gone for a pint together. Physical assault is part and parcel of any workplace.

    Caeeful now. You need to flag jokes for the fans of some shows

    (That too was a joke)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,566 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I still can't believe this guy had the gall to present himself to a&e with a fat lip, its preposterous

    You can't find any reason to blame Tymon for Clarkson's dismissal so you resort to criticising him for going to hospital after being physically assaulted.

    You really are a pathetic little man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    In some workplaces? maybe, depends on the workplace really. Do you really think it would have ended well for yer man if he decked someone as famous as Clarkson? I doubt it.

    I do. Any time Clarkson has described himself, in spoken or written form, it's been in a negative light. "A bean pole with a beach ball taped to it that a stork made a nest on top of" is one of many ways he describes himself.

    Had he been decked (and rightly so) I'm pretty sure it would have been blown up a bit over a week, Oisin would receive the exact same support he's received here for obvious reasons and Clarkson would have made sure he wasn't fired. Mainly because he'd have made up with the man and because doing so would make him look good too. He's clever like that but mainly because he doesn't have that superiority complex eveveryone says he does. He is a massive arsehole, but he doesn't even try to hide it. That's what people hate about him. Not that hes an arsehole. That they can't "catch him out" for being one and sit bag in a cloud of their own pungent sanctimony with a smug grin on their gimp, thinking "we got you". He regularly denies them that pleasure by admitting it himself and it absolutely kills them. Though they'd rather die than admit it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,253 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Jeeeesus H, look mate, I can 100% assure you that is a load of crap. If you think Clarkson is a prick then I wholeheartedly assure you, you have no idea what a prick actually is.

    I've worked for people that Clarkson himself has proven he wouldn't hold a candle to in the dickhead department. You fight back, or you move on. And accept that the former will generally result in the latter.


    It's far from a load of crap. Just because you have had the 'pleasure' of working in such an environment or indeed believe as you seem to that it is acceptable, I can tell you that it is so far from the norm in everyday working life regardless of profession. Maybe you are going back some years as regards your experience but thankful society has moved on so far as anyway that work place violence, bullying, harassment of any nature is not prevalent in any sector and is generally dealt with swiftly and justly as in this case. Exceptions will always occur but 99.99 % of society don't condone, see as acceptable or indeed behave in the way Clarkson did or what you see as ok. Get a grip.


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