Jeremy Clarkson suspended

The Spider · 25-03-2015 02:15PM

All three will leave, Top Gear is finished as of now. At the end of the day it'll suffer a slow death if another presenter is given the job and it won't work no matter how much the BBC tell themselves it will.

Top Gear is a personality show and people watch it for the presenters and how they interact with each other, the best Top Gear shows are the specials where they go to Africa or wherever.

My prediction all three's contracts are up at the end of the month, so all three will leave and go to another channel and do a magazine style show there, maybe a travel type show, who knows? I think channel 4'd be the perfect spot, but more than likely sky'll offer the three a lucrative deal.

Netflix is more of a player these days but I don't think the format of all shows at once would suit the type of show that they'd put out, and after binge watching all shows the next season would be very far away.

The BBC will try and continue the brand without the presenters but it wont work.

It's like anything, how many times in a job do a lot of people leave when one key person goes and the dynamic changes, and suddenly the job isn't the same anymore?

Irregardless of what you think of them, the three of them together will represent a gold mine for another channel, and as all the contracts are up, I think they're gonna go.

Tarzana2 · 25-03-2015 02:19PM

Ranchu wrote: »

I feel sorry for Tymon in all this. If he had knocked Clarkson out his career would be over and Clarkson probably would have got off. Fair play to the BBC for handling it the way they have.

Yep, delighted. If it's true that he waited up to welcome them and was treated like this, then it really is appalling how he was treated. And, while I'm sure the pay for a BBC producer is probably pretty good, he'd likely lose a lot more from being out of a job than Clarkson.

The Guardian is also reporting it now, though nothing from the BBC as of yet.

Wibbs · 25-03-2015 02:21PM

The other angle might be that they could just walk away from the TG format entirely. So they can say they left before it jumped the shark(debatable whether it already did). Handy for the Beeb in one way too. Their contracts were up, renegotiation was on the table, now if Clarkson is gone by his own hand, that problem largely solved itself. What isn't solved is the massive loss of revenue and exposure the show got worldwide.

Muahahaha · 25-03-2015 02:24PM

This will be Jezza later tonight :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOy8R_8f3Io

Tarzana2 · 25-03-2015 02:24PM

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Well it depends where you look. Of course the Guardian readership would want him gone. Same survey would look different in a motoring magazine.

Yeah, the Telegraph poll was the other way round, with the vast majority wanting him to stay. You don't have to be a stereotypical Guardian reader to thinking letting him go was the right decision though. I roll my eyes regularly at Guardian clickbait articles. I read a fair bit of stuff on the Guardian website, but disagree with a lot of it. And I think if what was reported was true, he needs to go.

kylith · 25-03-2015 02:27PM

Tarzana2 wrote: »

Yeah, the Telegraph poll was the other way round, with the vast majority wanting him to stay. You don't have to be stereotypical Guardian reader to thinking letting him go was the right decision though. I roll my eyes regularly at Guardian clickbait articles. I read a fair bit of stuff on the Guardian website, but disagree with a lot of it. And I think if what was reported was true, he needs to go.

It was a YouGov poll, not a Guardian one. The Guardian merely reported it.

Tarzana2 · 25-03-2015 02:27PM

NachoBusiness wrote: »

There has been no decision. Don't mind The Guardian.

Bless.

You're right of course, but it is significant that several non-tabloids are now reporting it, whether you like it or not.

Tarzana2 · 25-03-2015 02:28PM

The Spider wrote: »

All three will leave, Top Gear is finished as of now.

Woohoo! \o/

Maybe something new quality programming will be produced to replace it. Top Gear used to be quality of course, but should have been put out to pasture about five years ago.

And pointed out, they might be more constrained on a commercial channel. Sometimes big names travel well, sometimes they don't.

circadian · 25-03-2015 02:31PM

Watch the show, mostly for the cinematics and sound design. I enjoy the challenges etc when they go somewhere stunning.

I can take or leave the presenters. It's gradually becoming less funny anyway so maybe the show has run it's course. Wouldn't mind seeing the three of them on another channel, just to see how the dynamic works.

Alas, I'll miss the flashy camerawork, soundtrack and sound effects.

Tarzana2 · 25-03-2015 02:33PM

kylith wrote: »

It was a YouGov poll, not a Guardian one. The Guardian merely reported it.

Ah, I see. Now pinko liberal tree-riding bamboo-wearing lefties can't be blamed.

:pac:

Sleepy · 25-03-2015 02:42PM

Wonder what will happen to the remainder of the filmed segments of the current season? Will May and Hammond be lured back in to do the studio bits without Clarkson? Will it be released as a DVD? Or will it become like the near-mythical "lost episodes" of Doctor Who and eventually get leaked out onto the torrent sites?

kylith · 25-03-2015 02:42PM

Tarzana2 wrote: »

Ah, I see. Now pinko liberal tree-riding bamboo-wearing lefties can't be blamed. :pac:

Not the Guardian-reading ones anyway :pac:

25-03-2015 02:52PM

I'd say Clarkson won't lose out anyway.

I'd imagine he'll have offers flooding in the door.

He could well end up being even better off because of it

lee_baby_simms · 25-03-2015 02:54PM

Tarzana2 wrote: »

Ah, I see. Now pinko liberal tree-riding bamboo-wearing lefties can't be blamed. :pac:

Bloody Guardian reading, bleeding heart, eco-transgender, hybrid car owners.

suicide_circus · 25-03-2015 03:00PM

Chris Evans as a replacement wouldn't be my cup of tea. The moment he actually layed hands on someone, the BBC had to sack him imo. I can see the show being sh1t without him.

lee_baby_simms · 25-03-2015 03:04PM

Netflix should pull out all the stops to secure the services of Clarkson & Co.

It has a worldwide audience, subscriptions would get a big bump and Clarkson could be as politically incorrect and predictably outrageous as he wants without having answer to the likes of ofcom.

That said, I think Netflix are run by guardian reading types so who knows.

dr.fuzzenstein · 25-03-2015 03:06PM

Officially gone now?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/bbc/11480416/Jeremy-Clarkson-BBC-investigation-verdict-live.html

yes, official:

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-32052736

a minute silence please.

Noxin · 25-03-2015 03:07PM

seems so:

BBC

tipptom · 25-03-2015 03:08PM

Sleepy wrote: »

Wonder what will happen to the remainder of the filmed segments of the current season? Will May and Hammond be lured back in to do the studio bits without Clarkson? Will it be released as a DVD? Or will it become like the near-mythical "lost episodes" of Doctor Who and eventually get leaked out onto the torrent sites?

Would be interesting to hear May and Hammonds take on the whole hot dinner affair.

Call Me Jimmy · 25-03-2015 03:12PM

I think such a response implies this was quite a serious incident, for anyone defending him it's an indicator. I've recently been watching some top gear clips and he is undoubtedly intelligent, funny and charismatic but that shouldn't and hasn't negated his actions. From what I've read, classic case of abusing power and that's never a good thing no matter what the context.

murpho999 · 25-03-2015 03:12PM

tipptom wrote: »

Would be interesting to hear May and Hammonds take on the whole hot dinner affair.

I'm sure they're scripting their oh so witty responses now.

Tresra · 25-03-2015 03:17PM

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

I think such a response implies this was quite a serious incident, for anyone defending him it's an indicator. I've recently been watching some top gear clips and he is undoubtedly intelligent, funny and charismatic but that shouldn't and hasn't negated his actions. From what I've read, classic case of abusing power and that's never a good thing no matter what the context.

On what basis is it abusing power? How do you know it isn't just a case of two men engaging in a conflict?

Tarzana2 · 25-03-2015 03:17PM

Call Me Jimmy wrote: »

I think such a response implies this was quite a serious incident, for anyone defending him it's an indicator. I've recently been watching some top gear clips and he is undoubtedly intelligent, funny and charismatic but that shouldn't and hasn't negated his actions. From what I've read, classic case of abusing power and that's never a good thing no matter what the context.

People will make something of Tymon not filing a complaint, but that might have been out of self-preservation. Maybe he feared for his own job and wanted to play it down for that reason.

tipptom · 25-03-2015 03:17PM

He hasn't been sacked,his contract is just not being re-newed.

lee_baby_simms · 25-03-2015 03:20PM

tipptom wrote: »

He hasn't been sacked,his contract is just not being re-newed.

Six of one, half dozen of the other.

The only reason he wasn't sacked was that there is only a week left on his contract. A slightly softer way of parting company.

murpho999 · 25-03-2015 03:21PM

tipptom wrote: »

He hasn't been sacked,his contract is just not being re-newed.

...and if the incident had not happened then his contract would have been renewed so he was sacked.

Call Me Jimmy · 25-03-2015 03:22PM

Tresra wrote: »

On what basis is it abusing power? How do you know it isn't just a case of two men engaging in a conflict?

Would the other guy not be sacked too if that was the case?

lee_baby_simms · 25-03-2015 03:22PM

murpho999 wrote: »

I'm sure they're scripting their oh so witty responses now.

They'll stick by him, that's for sure. Hammond has the personality of a dead moth and I've met barflies who are far more entertaining than May.

dr.fuzzenstein · 25-03-2015 03:22PM

tipptom wrote: »

He hasn't been sacked,his contract is just not being re-newed.

Dyr · 25-03-2015 03:25PM

One can only imagine who much comedy gold Stewart Lee will spin from this rich thread

Jeremy Clarkson suspended

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