Clare GAA discussion thread

keeponhurling · 16-03-2015 11:08PM

Sure even if they somehow could pressure a resolution, not likely they would be picked for first 15

keeponhurling · 16-03-2015 11:08PM

ProudDUB wrote: »

Why wouldn't they be? I thought all inter county players were?

I thought it was optional , rather than automatic ?
Could be wrong though.

ProudDUB · 16-03-2015 11:58PM

keeponhurling wrote: »

Sure even if they somehow could pressure a resolution, not likely they would be picked for first 15

Maybe, maybe not. But it would be good if there was a system in place whereby disputes like this could be resolved & kept in house, without big messy dramas being playing out in the full glare of the media. No one benefits from that. Players leaving the the panel should be the last resort.

Clareman · 17-03-2015 09:43PM

Very strong rumours of "mis-conduct" by a certain member of management and a number of ladies, maybe even a student involved. His relationship with a sister of a former manager is over following inappropriate photos on a phone.

windy shepard henderson · 17-03-2015 09:56PM

Clareman wrote: »

Very strong rumours of "mis-conduct" by a certain member of management and a number of ladies, maybe even a student involved. His relationship with a sister of a former manager is over following inappropriate photos on a phone.

now if this is true . . . . . . . :eek:!!!!! are you sure there not mistaking him for marty morrisey by any chance ?

sasta le · 17-03-2015 10:00PM

This related to the latest droppings?

windy shepard henderson · 17-03-2015 10:07PM

sasta le wrote: »

This related to the latest droppings?

sounds to be slightly above just going for a night out on the dry ? ........if true of course

sasta le · 17-03-2015 10:30PM

Clareman wrote: »

Very strong rumours of "mis-conduct" by a certain member of management and a number of ladies, maybe even a student involved. His relationship with a sister of a former manager is over following inappropriate photos on a phone.

can you pm what's going on

Clareman · 17-03-2015 10:34PM

I don't think it's related to any of the droppings, just showing that there might be other things on some people's minds

feargale · 17-03-2015 10:36PM

sasta le wrote: »

can you pm what's going on

At a guess, in one word I'd say sex. It should have no bearing on hurling unless:
1. The law has been breached, e.g. by the involvement of underage persons, or
2. The activity caused the horses to stampede through Ennis causing serious injury to persons or property.

LuckyGent88 · 17-03-2015 11:22PM

Clareman wrote: »

Very strong rumours of "mis-conduct" by a certain member of management and a number of ladies, maybe even a student involved. His relationship with a sister of a former manager is over following inappropriate photos on a phone.

Wow wow wow, what's going on here.

citykat · 18-03-2015 01:16AM

Clareman wrote: »

Very strong rumours of "mis-conduct" by a certain member of management and a number of ladies, maybe even a student involved. His relationship with a sister of a former manager is over following inappropriate photos on a phone.

Good man. You've just tarred all of the management team with that statement...

Orizio · 18-03-2015 02:28AM

So who is the senior player that didn't get punished while the other lads did?

Limestone Cowboy · 18-03-2015 09:48AM

citykat wrote: »

Good man. You've just tarred all of the management team with that statement...

You wouldn't need to go on boards to hear it, I heard the same thing at the game v Dublin. Rumour mill is in full swing at the moment though so I wouldn't believe all I'd hear.

Browney7 · 18-03-2015 01:31PM

citykat wrote: »

Good man. You've just tarred all of the management team with that statement...

Didn't Davy do something similar before along the lines of "I'm not naming names but some fellas I hurled with were on harder stuff than drink"

keeponhurling · 18-03-2015 02:45PM

All these rumours and discipline issues seem to have improved performance as seen in our first win of the year v Dublin.

Perhaps it's more rumours we need ?

fabsoul · 18-03-2015 03:22PM

keeponhurling wrote: »

All these rumours and discipline issues seem to have improved performance as seen in our first win of the year v Dublin.

Perhaps it's more rumours we need ?

No no lol. We just need a new manager

LuckyGent88 · 18-03-2015 08:42PM

So what do we all make of this statement released by the squad and management?

Probably creates more questions and answers imo and the mere fact that they have to release a statement spells trouble to me.

One thing that I really hope doesn't come from this is a strain on friendships. Davy o holloran and nicky would have grown up best mates with most of that squad so I hope no friendships will be affected by the decisions. They will surely be disappointed that there mates haven't backed them up. I don't see a reason why Davy o holloran had to lie about the treatment of them. Either the rest of the squad haven't the balls to stand up to Davy Fitz or else Davy I holloran has blatantly lied which I see no reason for him not to.

Don't think we have heard the end of this story.

http://www.the42.ie/clare-hurling-statement-1999593-Mar2015/

Keano · 18-03-2015 09:14PM

Nice of their former teammates to pretty much call them liars...

It will impact friendships and moral how cannot it not?

Clareman · 18-03-2015 09:40PM

Wow, some statement

“The Clare senior hurling panel and management have met on the recent disciplinary issues that have been aired in the public domain.

The disciplinary issues didn't air in the public domain, the issues with players being out was dealt with in house. The players refusal to accept the punishment and then speak to the press happened in the public domain. Also, they weren't recent, the issues occurred over a month ago (Friday the 13th of Feb)

“All involved are happy that the matter was dealt with fairly.

No they're not, 2 players involved clearly didn't think the matter was dealt with fairly so they left the panel and spoke to the press. Also, only 1 matter was dealt with here but the first part of the statement clearly states that there were issues, was only 1 issue dealt with?

“While there are numerous inaccuracies reported in the media, on social media and in a former player’s statement,

I for 1 find this statement very open ended, what inaccuracies? Grammar? Dates? Facts? If yo uwant to make a statement like this then you should back it up.

the matter is now closed and we, as a group, are happy to move forward, united and to continue to enjoy working hard for Clare hurling.”

This is great news, the season starts now.

Clareman · 18-03-2015 10:19PM

Under 21 footballers didn't have a good night tonight, beaten by 15 points to 7 by Tipp, they had high hopes of getting to a Munster final.

windy shepard henderson · 18-03-2015 10:24PM

in fairness it sounds like the enda barrett james macinerney situation two years ago , where one player broke the code of conduct and the then vice captain walked in protest of his club mate , to this day i would still be in favor of the 2 newmarket lads but as lads have pointed out above these things have a habit of strengthening us tenfold , if the players are actually happy with the set up and buy into davey's plan then who are we to argue , and while the guy in charge may not be our cup of tea we are stuck with him , all we can do is to continue to support the team regardless of who is in charge

i am getting slightly concerned about the continues mention of social media and its so called scourge , most people post there genuine opinions one or two like to stir things at times but 98% of us use it as a source of conversation or to vent anger / heap praise on teams or players performances ect.. the same rules apply in bars workplaces taxi ranks ..whereever on a daily biases, its not a witch hunt its just people's opinions, for example one clare gaa fourm has nearly been sent under ground at the moment almost in tandem with an editorial in a local news paper last month which in my opinion is far from good enough

Clareman · 18-03-2015 10:39PM

I'm concerned that the Clare senior hurling team and management are saying that national media are publishing inaccurate articles, especially as the source of the article is the country's paper of record.

2 big things worry me about this, 1 is the delay between the incident and "punishment", if everything is setup so correctly then why did it take so long? Surely they should have just dealt with it there and then. The second thing is that it's getting clearer and clearer that it's either my way or the high way with Davy, the county champions have a tiny representation on the squad because of an ultimatum, now 2 more players have left because of an ultimatum, how many players are going to be lost?

Clareman · 18-03-2015 10:42PM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

i am getting slightly concerned about the continues mention of social media and its so called scourge

It's fairly well known that the Clare management actively police facebook for pictures of the lads on night out, some of them have setup dummy accounts to try to get around it.

windy shepard henderson · 18-03-2015 10:45PM

Clareman wrote: »

I'm concerned that the Clare senior hurling team and management are saying that national media are publishing inaccurate articles, especially as the source of the article is the country's paper of record.

2 big things worry me about this, 1 is the delay between the incident and "punishment", if everything is setup so correctly then why did it take so long? Surely they should have just dealt with it there and then. The second thing is that it's getting clearer and clearer that it's either my way or the high way with Davy, the county champions have a tiny representation on the squad because of an ultimatum, now 2 more players have left because of an ultimatum, how many players are going to be lost?

you would have to wonder though if he could afford to lose another big name player ? if a galvin tony kelly or connor mcgrath were to leave you would imagine that would be curtains

Clareman · 18-03-2015 10:58PM

There's a major concern that players could get sick of all this hassle, every year there seems to be something and decide to give it up or head off on a J1 or something, the majority of these players have been going non-stop between minor/colleges/under-21 for the past 5 years, when the opportunity to take a break presents itself I can see them taking a break.

windy shepard henderson · 18-03-2015 11:05PM

Clareman wrote: »

Under 21 footballers didn't have a good night tonight, beaten by 15 points to 7 by Tipp, they had high hopes of getting to a Munster final.

a mass improvement on the hammering received in miltown last year but giving the fact that the club under 21 championship wont start for another 7 months give or take and with little or no club action played at senior level it becomes hard to unearth talent or even just get a level of football together this time of year might just be easier to run both hurling and football club u21 championships together at the start of the year

windy shepard henderson · 18-03-2015 11:09PM

Clareman wrote: »

There's a major concern that players could get sick of all this hassle, every year there seems to be something and decide to give it up or head off on a J1 or something, the majority of these players have been going non-stop between minor/colleges/under-21 for the past 5 years, when the opportunity to take a break presents itself I can see them taking a break.

i think there is more then just ourselves worrying about that happening around the country it will be very interesting to see what outcome there is at the end of the year but yeah not long after the 2013 success have the same questions about player welfare been asked over and over

niallo27 · 18-03-2015 11:40PM

We are a ****ing laughing stock around the country and it's all down to one man.

ProudDUB · 19-03-2015 12:02AM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

i am getting slightly concerned about the continues mention of social media and its so called scourge , most people post there genuine opinions one or two like to stir things at times but 98% of us use it as a source of conversation or to vent anger / heap praise on teams or players performances ect.. the same rules apply in bars workplaces taxi ranks ..whereever on a daily biases, its not a witch hunt its just people's opinions, for example one clare gaa fourm has nearly been sent under ground at the moment almost in tandem with an editorial in a local news paper last month which in my opinion is far from good enough

Classic defensive strategy when you find yourself being criticized. Don't address any of the things you are being criticized for. Instead, attack the attackers...blame the media, blame journalists, blame certain begrudgers, blame columnists with an agenda, blame people out to get you, blame the naysayers, blame the officials, blame social media, blame RTE, blame everything & everyone but the kitchen sink, but don't ever blame your self and never, ever address any of the issues at hand.

Sadly, those strategies rarely work. No one ever thinks "oh well that's alright then." They just think you have something to hide. If people didn't before. They do now.

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