People who hire hookers?

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Strange how you're only acknowledging that now.

Fwiw btw, more sexually experienced is no guarantee that you're going to please every different individual all the time, but it does mean you get better at giving people who are easily pleased, exactly what they're paying for.

I never said that hookers were not people, and I don't see how anyone could came to that conclusion

The Corinthian wrote: »

Many people (I can only speak of women, but have no doubts that men are equally culpable) are selfish. They do what will get themselves off, they'll concentrate on their own needs, they'll refuse what is of no interest to them (I'm not saying things they are repulsed by, just are indifferent to), though it may be of interest to their partner and demand the reverse.

Furbrege; There's the post about lovers being selfish. Please go back and read posts yourself next time if your in doubt.

Also in terms of my posts about spousal pay, perhaps you didn't read them either.

Even if that is what you or continian feel about my opinions, you have already voiced that more than once and I have agreed to disagree with it.

Sleepy wrote: »

As The Corinthian pointed out repeatedly already in nicer language, many people are selfish in bed. It's my observation of Irish society that many men are conditioned to feel lucky if a woman is prepared to spread her legs h.

Just because you or the Corinthian repeatedly point out that "many people are selfish" in bed does not mean that many people are selfish in bed.

I can just as easily repeatedly and in nicer language point out that many people and couples are very giving in bed.

Saralee4 wrote: »

I was simply listing the only reasons I can think why someone would specifically think that hookers are better in bed than any other women.

Just to preface this post by saying I've know idea if hookers are actually a lot better than your average woman in the street in bed, the only opinion I've ever heard on way or the other on the matter is my mate's who's comments have lead to this little running discussion here, I've no idea if that's a general consensus amongst the hooker using public either, so am pretty much just playing devils advocate here.

There are a few things which would tend to lend themselves to someone being quite good in bed, particularly on a 'first time with someone new' basis, which is what my mates comments in the original post related to, all kinds of exceptions apply obviously, but there's a definite trend.

Experience: That's a big one. Not just the number of times someone has had sex, but the amount of people they have had sex with. Now it doesn't automatically follow that someone that has had sex with 50 people will be better in bed than someone that has had sex with 5, certainly not in isolation,but there's probably a trend there, generally, on average.

I'll give a couple of analogies here, primarily because I just quite like analogies, so any excuse like:
Say you have two people that play guitar. Person A plays the same few songs, from the same couple of genres, over and over again. They would get extraordinarily good at those few songs. And in general become a better guitarist than when they began. Person B plays many many different songs, from a large variety of genres, on a regular basis. Now say you play both of them a randomly selected song they have never heard before, and give them one shot to play it. Person B just is going to be far far more likely to play that song quite well, as compared to Person A. Now over time, with a chance to practice away at that song, Person A would probably end up equally good at that song as Person B. But the first time, as a once off? No competition.

Say you have two mechanics. One that has spent his time working in a couple of Nissan dealerships. And one that has spent his time working in some country garage, where one day he could have a Nissan Micra in, the next a two stroke motorbike, the next a Massey Ferguson tractor, the next a classic 1960's BMW. Now both of the guys are one day given a type of vehicle neither has ever worked on before and given a chance to do a job on it. That country garage guy just is going to be far more likely to do the far better job. Now a bit of time to get to grips with it, and maybe do a few more jobs on the car the Nissan dealership guy'll probably have it down to a t. But right off the bat? He's going to be left in the ha'penny place by the other lad.

Lack of sexual inhibition: As a general rule, sexual inhibition inhibits sex being as good as it could be. Now, it kinda stand to reason surely, that someone that on a day in day out basis meets up with strangers they've never met before, whips their clothes off and has sex with them, is probably at the top of the scale in terms of lacking sexual inhibition. Not to say other women are neccesarily going to be sexually inhibited, but the odds are in favour of the hooker being less so in most cases.

Prioritising the sexual pleasure of the other person: In general I think we'll agree that when someone puts your sexual pleasure at the top of the list of their concerns, it has a tendency to make for quite good sex.
Now it seems a reasonable enough assumption to make I think that when it comes to a hooker, who's soul purpose is to provide someone else with sexual pleasure, that that persons sexual pleasure is going to be their main, if not in fact their sole, priority. Now of course that's not to say that a girl that goes home with a guy on a ONS isn't going to be concerned with their sexual pleasure, odds are they will be for a variety of reasons. But with a hooker, it's pretty a much a guarantee that that is their raison d'être for being there, to provide someone with sexual pleasure for money.

This is getting to be a pretty long post, I actually had three other things that I think could go some way to providing reasons I can think why someone would specifically think that hookers are better in bed than your average girl you'd take home one night. But I grow weary of typing.

But honestly Saralee, I don't get why you would find it so very hard to believe that people who can charge a premium for a service, probably do provide a premium service. Like me. I'm a tradesman. I charge above the market rate. I can do so because the demand is there. I secure repeat work on a regular basis and am recommended on a regular basis, this happens because I am exceptionally good at what I do, therefore am in constant demand and can afford to charge more than most of my competitors, and still stay in business. I charge a premium price for a premium service. I don't do anything my competitors don't do. I just do everything they do better than they do on a very very consistent basis. So people pay the premium for the guarantee of that happening. To ensure they get a top quality job done every time, rather than take a chance with someone that either doesn't come recommended or that hasn't proven themselves to them before by doing an exceptional job for them. It's a pretty basic concept.

In summary, the original post of mine paraphrasing my mate can be summed up like this: He believes some hookers are extraordinarily good in bed, as in the top 10% of women in terms of sexual ability, he is willing to pay them for sex as the odds of a girl you meet out one night at random also being in that top 10% is, by definition 10-1. And sometimes he'd rather pay than play those odds.

That is a stupidly long post about whether or not prostitutes are likely to give a good ride.

strobe wrote: »

In summary, the original post of mine paraphrasing my mate can be summed up like this: He believes some hookers are extraordinarily good in bed, as in the top 10% of women in terms of sexual ability, he is willing to pay them for sex as the odds of a girl you meet out one night at random also being in that top 10% is, by definition 10-1. And sometimes he'd rather pay than play those odds.

That is a stupidly long post about whether or not prostitutes are likely to give a good ride.

that is a very long post strobe.

in summary of your original post I thought your friend mainly went because he was definitely going to get great sex not an 'odds on' situation. So now its more the odds are in his favour rather than a sure thing.

Anyway im sure you would easily be able to compile a similar list containing reasons why women are great in bed (or as they have been called in this thread 'non-hookers' and 'average women').

The fact is that different people are good in bed for different reasons depending on the woman and the man they are with.

In your analogy's you used the Nissan mechanic and a trades man like yourself both jobs where training is necessary. Surely you would agree that you can get some good mechanics, some very bad mechanics, and some ok mechanics (the do the job).

You cannot compare hookers and women to mechanics working on a car. All women all have the ability whether hooker or not (or in mechanic terms trained) to be extraordinary in bed. What one man will find extraordinary, another will find repulsive. there is no law when it comes to being good in bed. it is the woman and mans communication, willingness with one another and the perception and desire that make it good not the fact that the woman is a hooker or not.

Some men and by the posts here do seem to believe that hookers are going to be better but that is their perception of the situation. The situation for them is better. They are getting what they want because they paid for it. She is not better at sex than any other woman. Any other woman can do what she can do. If its a case of her being more attractive and the man cant get an attractive for free, then the hooker is not better just available through cash compared to the attractive woman who doesn't want him. The man is essentially creating a control to his own desires but it is not the woman that is better.

Anyway everyone is entitled to their own views so if you all feel that hookers are better than 'average women' at having sex, (I personally don't think there is one better than the other) then you are free to feel that way.