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The one thing i want I cant have

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  • #32
    LegacyUser
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    NY dream, or just existing? wrote: »
    Your dream isn't foolish or unachievable, however, I really would question what you are actively doing to make it happen.

    I'm not really sure why a few replies suggest I am doing nothing to help myself. I am here looking for advise not looking for an easy solution



    With regards Sydney, Yes I understand other cities can work out, i think that#s why I came to Vancouver, but in the back of my mind I just want to be in New York. So no matter where I go I think I will still have New York in my system.

    I understand the price is crazy and things are expensive, I don't want to be there for life, I just want to experience living there for a time while I am still young.

    Regards Toronto, when I lived there for a few months I was getting paid 12 an hour, I moved to Vancouver Jan 2014 and I am getting 15 an hour here.

    I am really just looking for different ways to go about it, it appears the getting work and looking for a transfer seems to be the best solution.
    For anyone who has had a transfer, is it generally an ok process, if I was to get a position with an American company is it the done thing to just ask them for a transfer or do you need to wait for a position? Is there any companies in particular that do this often? Ive not known anyone to get a transfer with the exception of one guy. I know a few people who have worked for PWC who were about to transfer for a couple of months, which would also be ideal


  • #33
    Faith
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    hardworkingandfrustrated wrote: »
    I'm not really sure why a few replies suggest I am doing nothing to help myself.

    Because you haven't really told us what you have done, apart from filling in a form once a year for a lottery. It might be helpful to tell us what avenues you've already exhausted, and then you can get more targeted advice. For instance, have you retrained/ trained in a more specialist area? Have you met with a variety of recruiters? Have you networked with a wide variety of people in your field? Have you applied for any jobs or had any interviews with companies from New York? Have you gone to any conferences/trade shows/recruitment events etc where you've met people in your field that can help you out?

    Is $15/hour an average salary for your field? After tax, that's less than CA$30,000 per annum, or US$23K. Going by here, a 1-bedroom apartment in New York City costs $2,640 per month. In a year, that's $31,680 - nearly $9K more than your current salary. Even if you shared with a partner, you'd be left with less than 7K to live on per year after rent.

    I think you need to consider more than just how to get to New York. You need to consider how you'll afford it when you're there! Is retraining an option for you? Or have you transferrable skills that you could use in a more highly-paid role? You're going to need to be incredibly pro-active and motivated to make this happen :)


  • #34
    LegacyUser
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    Faith wrote: »
    <Mod Snip> No need to repost the entire previous post.



    I actually mentioned a few posts back what I have been trying to do. I'm on here trying to get some advise, some suggestions on different options one that may be possible for me. No amount of posts about expenses are going to deter me, sadly I have tried turn myself off the idea but it doesn't work.

    I see numerous Irish bloggers have also been able to up and move to New York, what seems very easily. Is there some specific visa for people in that area of work?

    I don't enjoy wanting something so badly and not having a clue how to get it, like I've had nights where I am up half the night reading blog after blog of how people were able to make the move and still not really knowing what I should do. Like its actually taking over my life, I posted this is the personal issues page for a reason. I'm totally at a loose end and frustrated over this and I am fed up feeling like its all pointless


  • #35
    iusedtoknow
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    hardworkingandfrustrated wrote: »
    I actually mentioned a few posts back what I have been trying to do. I'm on here trying to get some advise, some suggestions on different options one that may be possible for me. No amount of posts about expenses are going to deter me, sadly I have tried turn myself off the idea but it doesn't work.

    I see numerous Irish bloggers have also been able to up and move to New York, what seems very easily. Is there some specific visa for people in that area of work?

    I really don't know what you're asking for tbh. There are no easy ways to make the move.

    J1 grad scheme
    H1b visa
    L1 visa
    O visa
    Marry an American
    Invest 500k
    Green card lottery.

    Those are your options, they are everyone else's options as well, and no amount to reading blogs will make it any easier.

    Frankly, it sounds like you're obsessed on it, and it's clouding your judgement. Maybe once you get back to Ireland you'll get some clarity. Remember, Nyc, as great as it is is just a means to an end...not the end.


  • #36
    Faith
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    To preface, I'm not picking on you in the slightest here, but I imagine you'll interpret my posts in a negative way anyway. I've always wanted to move to California, so I do understand your frustration. However, there's a huge difference between what you've done and what you think you've done, and this is what's causing your current issues and frustrations. You think you're being proactive, but unless you're actually doing something, then reading the entire internet is still being passive.
    hardworkingandfrustrated wrote: »
    I have applied for the greencard lottery the last 4 years and been unsuccessful. Obviously I will keep trying but dont want to get my hopes up.

    That's pretty passive, because you leave your fate in the hands of a lottery. It is something, though.
    hardworkingandfrustrated wrote: »
    My qualifications are in business and computers, I have no idea how to go about applying and I cant imagine anyone would notice me with all the millions of Americans who could easily do any job that I could do. I don't stand out at all

    This attitude will guarantee you won't get anywhere in New York. You need to be loud, brash, and confident. You need to network and send resumes that say "HEY! Look at me! I'm AMAZING and you need to have me. Let me tell you exactly why I'm the best candidate you've ever met!". Even if you don't feel that way, that's the attitude you need to project in a city like NYC.
    hardworkingandfrustrated wrote: »
    To answer some questions, I have looked into it best I can and asked some friends who are there.

    I have however asked USIT about other options and they said because a business degree was too broad that I may not be able to apply for that one and asked me to call in when I move home.
    I also plan to apply for jobs with American companies when I am home in both London and Dublin and see if anything could eventually come from that. So I am being as proactiv as I can be.

    I didnt think just applying for jobs would be an option since I don't have any paper work to just up and work there that simply.

    These are all just vague plans, and are totally passive. Have you actually moved forward with anything as a result of these plans?
    hardworkingandfrustrated wrote: »
    when I suggested going back to college i was considering a H dip or Masters, though this is not really something I want to do

    Why not? One year's effort to get a one year reward? Sounds simple to me!
    hardworkingandfrustrated wrote: »
    I don't enjoy wanting something so badly and not having a clue how to get it, like I've had nights where I am up half the night reading blog after blog of how people were able to make the move and still not really knowing what I should do. Like its actually taking over my life, I posted this is the personal issues page for a reason. I'm totally at a loose end and frustrated over this and I am fed up feeling like its all pointless

    You're fed up because you're not moving forward! You've had this dream for 4 years now? In that time, you could have retrained entirely or worked your way through a company to the point of transfer. Can you see that you're not actually being proactive? Unless you're actively working to get to get to NCY - rather than just reading and talking online - you're not being proactive.

    You've been told several times now what you're options are. They're laid out clearly. It's up to you to follow a path now. Dreaming about it will drive you insane unless you take concrete steps to making it happen.


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  • #37
    LegacyUser
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    Faith wrote: »
    However, there's a huge difference between what you've done and what you think you've done, and this is what's causing your current issues and frustrations. You think you're being proactive, but unless you're actually doing something, then reading the entire internet is still being passive.


    You've been told several times now what you're options are. They're laid out clearly. It's up to you to follow a path now. Dreaming about it will drive you insane unless you take concrete steps to making it happen.


    The path I would prefer would be an internal transfer with work. From the beginning this is what I wanted. USIT told me about the the professional career training visa they offered but I knew my job at home would not qualify me, I quit, moved to Canada and got experience in my area I now have over a year professional experience in my area but USIT told me then that because my degree was Business that it was more of an umbrella degree and my experience may not qualify me!
    I hope when I get home this summer to get myself some interviews with companies who have offices in the states, I actually have a connection in State Street who should be able to set me up with an interview, we have already talked about it. However I am not sure what companies exactly a move would be possible with. I believe a management role would be needed to make a transfer and If that was the case I would certainly get myself a qualification in management, its something I would like anyway.

    I can see why its easy read a post and assume im not passionate about the move but I certainly am and right now im more frustrated than anything as I'm not very patient and waiting , not knowing what will happen is extremely annoying!

    Thanks again for all replies


  • #38
    bee06
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    OP, any of the big investment banks would have options to transfer Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan etc and it wouldn't just be for management roles. You'd be better off being in London though. Make it known that you'd be open to relocation rather than waiting for a position in NY to come up.


  • #39
    LegacyUser
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    bee06 wrote: »
    OP, any of the big investment banks would have options to transfer Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan etc and it wouldn't just be for management roles. You'd be better off being in London though. Make it known that you'd be open to relocation rather than waiting for a position in NY to come up.

    Thank you very very much, I will definitely be applying to all those in London when I move home


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