RTE Announce FTA Saorsat service

Thurston? · 31-12-2014 2:21pm

irishgeo wrote: »

I think i used this one , 11766 V
tp 52, not at home now to check.

That frequency & polarity is also used at 13 east, same symbol rate but different FEC.

11919 V might be a better one. It's also used at both 9 & 13, but even if your meter shows a signal reading for the signal from 13 on this tp, it shouldn't get a lock on it: it will lock on the signal from 9 east on this tp though.

jjf1974 · 31-12-2014 3:22pm

Thurston? wrote: »

That frequency & polarity is also used at 13 east, same symbol rate but different FEC.

11919 V might be a better one. It's also used at both 9 & 13, but even if your meter shows a signal reading for the signal from 13 on this tp, it shouldn't get a lock on it: it will lock on the signal from 9 east on this tp though.

A station called A.N.N which has a very strong signal will show up first on your box if you have tuned in properly.you will know it as it only seems to show fellas shooting at each others in the desert.

FRIENDO · 01-01-2015 1:20pm

Re alligned the dish (80cm) before Christmas in Wexford and now have perfect Saorsat reception in all weather over the period.
Also got the Saorsat approved walker combo in powercity for christmas - working perfect with saorsat, 7 day epg and RTE digital Aertel all working.
Easy to tune in Saorsat as the Eutelsat Ka-sat 9A(9.0E) is added to the pre installed satellite list.
Signal bars on view have slightly dropped in wet and windy conditions as pictures taken yesterday (a wet and windy day).

FRIENDO · 01-01-2015 1:27pm

More photos, overall the walker box is working perfect with Saorsat, very good to have the RTE digital Aertel service.
I went for the combo box as I have it combined with freeview from Wales.

coopershels · 01-01-2015 2:21pm

Friendo,

That looks good . I'd like to try it myself. Can you tell me, do you need to set up the disecq switch? If so how do I do it.

I already Have humax freesat set up on disecq so all the cables and switch are in place.

Or is it a case of just tuning them in.

Thanks.

FRIENDO · 01-01-2015 3:44pm

coopershels wrote: »

Friendo,

That looks good . I'd like to try it myself. Can you tell me, do you need to set up the disecq switch? If so how do I do it.

I already Have humax freesat set up on disecq so all the cables and switch are in place.

Or is it a case of just tuning them in.

Thanks.

I did not use disecq,
I use a seperate dish for Saorsat (80cm) and a zone 1 dish for Freesat with humax hdr,

I used a direct line for saorsat, combining Saorsat with terestrial freeview from Wales on the Walker.

Boards user phelixoflaherty has set up saorsat on the humax hdr with freesat using disecq.
It has been reported that on the Humax hdr, saorsat had no epg information.

I have found the Walker combo (Saorsat approved) to be the best box with Saorsat, I suppose having RTE Digital aertel is the biggest advantage.

Both the Walker and the Humax are capable of disecq.

You may have to use a specific port for saorsat on a disecq switch, I think I read that somewhere.

Setting up Saorsat
I aligned the dish and universal Lnb to 9E, as I do not have a meter for the Ka Lnb
Swapped the lnb with the new Saorsat lnb.
I'm using an 80cm dish for Saorsat in Wexford.

You may have to fine tune the dish gently moving east/west and elevation, also moving the lnb in and out can give a better signal which can make a difference in rain.

Depending on receiver for example:
With the triax 114 combo - I did a blind scan on 9E and the Saorsat channels came in.
With the Ferguson arivaHD - I had to add a "fake" frequency 10.765 vertical on 9E to get Saorsat channels.
On the walker combo it had Eutelsat Ka-sat 9A(9.0E) on the satellite list for tuning.

If you are trying to have the Saorsat lnb off centre you may need a bigger dish than 80cm for rain fade depending on your location, in Cork or Kerry even bigger again.

FRIENDO · 01-01-2015 4:21pm

coopershels wrote: »

Friendo,

I already Have humax freesat set up on disecq so all the cables and switch are in place.

Thanks.

From Wiki
If the receiver does not have a setting for the Ka band LNBF Lo, then a "fake" frequency 10.765 vertical rather than the real 20.185 may be entered when using the Inverto LNB with local oscillator of 21.2.[13]

To receive Freesat/Sky or other services alongside Saorsat, a dual- or multi-feed type dish or two dishes are needed with either one or more DiSEqC switches or a multi-switch. On a multi-switch the Saorsat LNB needs to be connected to vertical 0 kHz port only. The other 3 input ports are left unused.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saorsat

coopershels · 01-01-2015 7:33pm

I tried doing it with a diseqc 2.0 switch but i read up a bit and it seems that the box is compatible with diseqc 1.0 and diseqc 1.2. I have ordered one from ebay for less than 5 euro delivered and i will report back after i try it with the new one.

Thurston? · 02-01-2015 1:07pm

coopershels wrote: »

I tried doing it with a diseqc 2.0 switch but i read up a bit and it seems that the box is compatible with diseqc 1.0 and diseqc 1.2.

DiSEqC 2.0 switch should work with DiSEqC 1.0 receiver. I think some 2-way switches are intended for use in cascade with a monoblock LNB, so if you had 1 of those, it might need to be set up a certain way. (A & C/1 & 3, rather than A & B/1 & 2.)

FRIENDO · 02-01-2015 3:05pm

Just comparing signal quality on the walker box, from today dry and clear and two days ago on a wet and windy day.
Fortunately since realigning the dish we have perfect Saorsat reception in all weather.

coopershels · 04-01-2015 12:25pm

I got the diseqc switch set up on the box and tuned the saorsat channels in on the satellite portion of the box. I was able to split the feed coming from the dish so i have it on both stbs.

I dont really need this as the box has saorview but i just wanted to see if it worked.

irishgeo · 07-01-2015 11:54pm

i got mine sorted.

FRIENDO · 15-02-2015 3:19pm

RTÉ One plus 1 on the RTE Junior screen saver today.

A good excuse to watch the hurling on TG4

FRIENDO · 15-02-2015 3:26pm

I also returned the Walker Combo to Powercity as the combo was not working correctly with set recordings.

I got the Saorsat approved Walker Satellite reciever WP95sat-Hd
I also got a toshiba 500gb external hard drive

So far everything is working perfect, RTE digital aertel also working perfect on Saorsat.

Very easy to set up and tune in Saorsat service on the 95.

FRIENDO · 27-02-2015 8:57pm

Looks like another mess up by RTE on Saorsat, this time the epg

RTE on the epg for Saturday, Sunday, Monday looks like its showing the wrong information, very annoying if you want to set recordings, or plan viewing.
Example "Home and away" for almost 14 hours!!!

TG4 looks to be working fine for these days on the epg

FRIENDO · 01-03-2015 9:47pm

RTE EPG fixed today:)

NUTLEY BOY · 11-03-2015 12:38pm

We have a new Saorview TV. ( Currently using UPC cable service which we are thinking of ditching because of increasing cost for a modest service. )

If we get the combined dish and aerial will we be able to get radio stations ? Will we be able to get BBC radio and RTE radio. Cannot seem to find much information on this.

Thanks.

radiowaves · 11-03-2015 12:49pm

NUTLEY BOY wrote: »

We have a new Saorview TV. ( Currently using UPC cable service which we are thinking of ditching because of increasing cost for a modest service. )

If we get the combined dish and aerial will we be able to get radio stations ? Will we be able to get BBC radio and RTE radio. Cannot seem to find much information on this.

Thanks.

You will only get the RTÉ Radio services on Saorsat.

However, BBC Radio (and the main RTÉ Radio services) is available on satellite at 28.2.

FRIENDO · 11-03-2015 1:49pm

NUTLEY BOY wrote: »

If we get the combined dish and aerial will we be able to get radio stations ?

.

Yes.
Check the web sites Freesat.co.uk and Saorview.ie

radiowaves · 11-03-2015 1:54pm

FRIENDO wrote: »

Yes.
Check the web sites Freesat.co.uk and Saorview.ie

Without even checking I doubt that there is any information in relation to Saorsat on either of those

Sam Russell · 11-03-2015 2:28pm

radiowaves wrote: »

Without even checking I doubt that there is any information in relation to Saorsat on either of those

https://www.saorview.ie/about-saorview/saorsat/

radiowaves · 11-03-2015 2:31pm

Sam Russell wrote: »

https://www.saorview.ie/about-saorview/saorsat/

No list of radio channels there (that was the question!).

Thurston? · 11-03-2015 2:40pm

radiowaves wrote: »

Without even checking I doubt that there is any information in relation to Saorsat on either of those

I seriously doubt Nutley Boy has any interest in Saorsat, unless they're located somewhere like NI, & are thinking of a Freeview + Saorsat setup. Much more likely by 'combined dish & aerial' they mean Saorview + UK satellite.

Just posted in the wrong thread due to lack of knowledge.

radiowaves · 11-03-2015 2:43pm

Thurston? wrote: »

I seriously doubt Nutley Boy has any interest in Saorsat, unless they're located somewhere like NI, & are thinking of a Freeview + Saorsat setup. Much more likely by 'combined dish & aerial' they mean Saorview + UK satellite.

Just posted in the wrong thread due to lack of knowledge.

Makes sense

Sam Russell · 11-03-2015 5:14pm

radiowaves wrote: »

No list of radio channels there (that was the question!).

If you dig a bit on that site, you find this.

http://www.rtenl.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/RT%C3%89NL-SAORSAT-FAQs-Mar-2012-Rev-1.1.pdf

The radio stations are exactly the same as are found on Saorview.

radiowaves · 11-03-2015 5:22pm

Sam Russell wrote: »

If you dig a bit on that site, you find this.

http://www.rtenl.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/RT%C3%89NL-SAORSAT-FAQs-Mar-2012-Rev-1.1.pdf

The radio stations are exactly the same as are found on Saorview.

The link was pointless if you have to go digging!

Alternatively a link to any of the satellite channel list sites gives that information in an easy to find and direct way.

Anyway, it appears likely that the OP wasn't even looking for a Saorsat radio station list

Sam Russell · 11-03-2015 6:22pm

radiowaves wrote: »

The link was pointless if you have to go digging!

Alternatively a link to any of the satellite channel list sites gives that information in an easy to find and direct way.

Anyway, it appears likely that the OP wasn't even looking for a Saorsat radio station list

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Thurston? · 11-03-2015 6:34pm

Someone who currently has UPC, says they've just bought a 'Saorview TV', & is talking about a 'dish & aerial' setup, is not really looking for info on Saorsat.

They're just mistaken as to what Saorsat is.

FRIENDO · 26-03-2015 2:32pm

Welcome to RTÉ One HD on Soarsat

warlikedave · 26-03-2015 8:18pm

FRIENDO wrote: »

Welcome to RTÉ One HD on Soarsat

Wish this would be available on Sky @ astra 28.2e also. Any sign of TG4 HD for sarosat (9e) or on astra (28.2e) for that matter?

jimbo2007 · 26-03-2015 8:27pm

can anyone check the paramaters for this mux on 9 East? Are the PIDs and SIDs the same and what about the test cards? Thanks

FRIENDO · 27-03-2015 1:07am

warlikedave wrote:

Any sign of TG4 HD for sarosat (9e)

TG4 HD would be great for Saorsat, just watching a western from tg4 I recorded from Friday.
Think we may have to start writing to TG4 (cÃºpla focal)

I think the issue with 28e is that sky would have to pay for transmission of either TG4 HD or RTE 1 HD

warlikedave · 27-03-2015 12:43pm

FRIENDO wrote: »

TG4 HD would be great for Saorsat, just watching a western from tg4 I recorded from Friday.
Think we may have to start writing to TG4 (cÃºpla focal)

I think the issue with 28e is that sky would have to pay for transmission of either TG4 HD or RTE 1 HD

True enough - hope to at least see TG4 HD make it onto the saorview/saorsat platform sometime soon eitherway

jimbo2007 · 05-04-2015 7:27pm

coopershels wrote: »

I got the diseqc switch set up on the box and tuned the saorsat channels in on the satellite portion of the box. I was able to split the feed coming from the dish so i have it on both stbs.

I dont really need this as the box has saorview but i just wanted to see if it worked.

Can you please confirm the PIDs and SIDs for Saorsat? I know what they were before RTE 1 HD started but what are they now? Also, are the two test cards still there? And what about the radio staqtions? The pre-RTE1 HD line-up was:

5101/5201 (5201): RTÉ ONE (MPEG4/SD)
5102/5202 (5202): RTÉ TWO (MPEG4/HD)
5103/5203 (5203): RTÉ NEWS NOW (MPEG4/SD)
5104/5204 (5204): TG 4 (MPEG4/SD)
5105/5205 (5205): 2RN Test Card (MPEG4/SD)
5106/5206 (5206): 2RN Test Card (MPEG4/SD)
5017/5207 (5207): RTÉ Jr (MPEG4/SD)
5018/5208 (5208): RTÉ ONE+1 (MPEG4/SD)

5226 (5226): RTÉ Radio 1
5227 (5227): RTÉ 2FM
5228 (5228): RTÉ Lyric FM
5229 (5229): RTÉ Radio na Gaeltachta
5230 (5230): RTÉ Radio 1 Extra
5231 (5231): RTÉ Pulse
5232 (5232): RTÉ 2XM
5234 (5234): RTÉ Gold
5235 (5235): RTÉ Jr Radio/RTÉ Chill

Can you fonfirm that the PIDs for the new RTE1 HD are the same, as as the SID? Thanks.

radiowaves · 05-04-2015 7:42pm

warlikedave wrote: »

True enough - hope to at least see TG4 HD make it onto the saorview/saorsat platform sometime soon eitherway

It would be great, unfortunately it might need a second transponder on Saorsat.

I'd love to know the point of the two testcards; if they were removed TG4 HD could probably replace TG4 straight away.

Delta Lima · 06-04-2015 6:46pm

jimbo2007 wrote: »

can anyone check the paramaters for this mux on 9 East? Are the PIDs and SIDs the same and what about the test cards? Thanks

Jimbo, Lynsat has all the information you are looking for.

lyngsat.com/Eutelsat-Ka-Sat-9A.html

bmalone · 17-04-2015 8:47pm

Hi
I have an Opticum X7 series free to air and have lost all the UK channells. I would really appreciate any assistance in retuning. The kids have watched all the DVDs and I have failed miserablely in trying to retune. I think I need the settings as the normal Auto Installation dosent work.

Much appreciate any help
B

jimbo2007 · 19-04-2015 4:30pm

Delta Lima wrote: »

Jimbo, Lynsat has all the information you are looking for.

lyngsat.com/Eutelsat-Ka-Sat-9A.html

Thanks. That is updated. Good

Cheers

19-04-2015 8:54pm

bmalone wrote: »

Hi
I have an Opticum X7 series free to air and have lost all the UK channells. I would really appreciate any assistance in retuning. The kids have watched all the DVDs and I have failed miserablely in trying to retune. I think I need the settings as the normal Auto Installation dosent work.

Much appreciate any help
B

I suspect you've lost all the satellite channels but continue to receive Saorview terrestrially (if, indeed, that's a word!). Can you check you still have a valid satellite signal input?

If yes, try - Menu, installation, satellite installation

If no, check connections both at X7 end and at LNB.

Hope this helps

,

mackersdublin · 18-04-2016 6:14pm

FRIENDO wrote: »

Welcome to RTÉ One HD on Soarsat

Any images for the new test channels

FRIENDO · 19-04-2016 10:53am

mackersdublin wrote: »

Any images for the new test channels

Hi Macker,

In the past we had a total of 18 channels after a scan.
8 tv, 6 channels
2 test screens and 10 radio

Now we have a total of 30 channels.
20 tv, 7 channels with RTE+1 twice
4 test screens and 10 radio.

Both RTE+1 channels are working perfect and RTE Digital aertel works perfect on all channels.

On the test screens we have the 2rn colourful display, 2 are playing Lyric and 2 playing RnaG. However only two of the test screens have TXT subt in the info bar.

The Walker Saorsat approved box also comes with a Sat Free (Freesat) mode.
Recording function is also very good.

Channel lists can easily be edited.

Overall the box is very very simple to use.

PS. I will post more photos as boards only allow so many in each post.

Cheers, FRIENDO

Sorry about bad quality and reflection on photos, have no curtains at the moment.

FRIENDO · 19-04-2016 11:03am

More photos

Some phone devices will only allow you see one photo per post, I can email them to you if you want.

fryup · 19-04-2016 5:17pm

so RTE is going to be available via satellite ?? will it be available europe wide?

FRIENDO · 19-04-2016 5:32pm

fryup wrote:

so RTE is going to be available via satellite ?? will it be available europe wide?

Hi fryup, Saorsat has been available a couple of years now, it's mainly for homes that can't get a reliable Saorview signal, approximately 2% of homes.
It's available on a very tight footprint which covers Ireland with some possible overspill.
It's not available over Europe.

mackersdublin · 19-04-2016 5:35pm

FRIENDO wrote: »

Hi Macker,

In the past we had a total of 18 channels after a scan.
8 tv, 6 channels
2 test screens and 10 radio

Now we have a total of 30 channels.
20 tv, 7 channels with RTE+1 twice
4 test screens and 10 radio.

Both RTE+1 channels are working perfect and RTE Digital aertel works perfect on all channels.

On the test screens we have the 2rn colourful display, 2 are playing Lyric and 2 playing RnaG. However only two of the test screens have TXT subt in the info bar.

The Walker Saorsat approved box also comes with a Sat Free (Freesat) mode.
Recording function is also very good.

Channel lists can easily be edited.

Overall the box is very very simple to use.

PS. I will post more photos as boards only allow so many in each post.

Cheers, FRIENDO

Sorry about bad quality and reflection on photos, have no curtains at the moment.

Hey FRIENDO

Did u assign those EPG numbers or are they automatic?

I was under the impression there was no LCN on Saorsat

fryup · 19-04-2016 5:43pm

FRIENDO wrote: »

It's available on a very tight footprint which covers Ireland with some possible overspill.

Uk ?

FRIENDO · 19-04-2016 5:49pm

Saorsat, Kasat (9.0E)

1. RTE 1 (HD)
2. RTE2 (HD)
3. RTE NEWS NOW
4. TG4
5. Test screen TV (Lyric radio) TXT
6. Test screen TV (RnaG radio) TXT
7. RTE Junior
8. RTE One + 1
9. Test screen TV (Lyric radio)
10. Test screen TV (RnaG radio)
11. RTE One + 1
12. Blank tv test screen
13. Blank tv test screen
14. Blank tv test screen
15. Blank tv test screen
16. Blank tv test screen
17. Blank tv test screen
18. Blank tv test screen
19. Blank tv test screen
20. Blank tv test screen
21. RTE Radio 1
22. RTE 2FM
23. RTE Lyric
24. RTE Raidio na Gaeltachta
25. RTE Radio 1 Extra
26. RTE Pulse
27. RTE 2XM
28. RTE Junior
29. RTE Gold
30. RTE Chill

RTE AERTEL Working on all RTE TV channels.
Radio channels all carrying RTE screen saver.

Above scan carried out on Saorsat approved Walker WP95SAT-HD

FRIENDO · 19-04-2016 5:53pm

@fryup
No, however some reports on boards from West Wales and West England (Devon).
In Ireland you need an 80cm dish and possibly a 100cm dish or bigger in West Cork.

No matter what size dish you have in London, Manchester or Leeds you won't get Saorsat

fryup · 19-04-2016 9:11pm

^^^^^^^^^^^

but we can get bbc over here?? so why can't we return the favour??

broadcasting rights?

lertsnim · 19-04-2016 9:20pm

fryup wrote: »

^^^^^^^^^^^

but we can get bbc over here?? so why can't we return the favour??

broadcasting rights?

Yes. We return the favour to Northern Ireland.

RTE Announce FTA Saorsat service

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