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Is being unemployed the most soul destroying thing ever

  • 10-03-2015 06:00PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭


    So im now on week three on my first time ever unemployed. I decided to track everything with a diary to hopefully keep sane or just because ive fook all else to do,

    To put it into context im 29. Hold a college degree and have years in IT sales/business de elopment a sector which is tough and shown by the media as the sector to be in

    So ive applied for 11 jobs

    2- opened for sh!tes and giggles as internal rep had be offered job already
    1- sorry you dont fell the criteria
    The rest with zero contact..

    One giant company (it green, its a fruit,great for tarts) i applied for 2 roles and i was recommended internally,both times i mailed the recruiters and both lacked the respect to reply

    Yesterday i visited the dole who gave megrief as my redundant pack was on non headed paper..i had to go back to old company and get headed paper

    ROFL

    I know After hours isnt the correct forum for this its the highest volume forum on here

    So AH tell me yer experiences...cheer me up

    How do you fill the day as im going off my nut


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭dd972


    I've hated every job I've ever had, so being unemployed no biggie for me, recent research concluded that being stuck in a job you hate is worse for your mental health than being unemployed.


    Learn a language or a musical instrument to fill the day, something of far more intrinsic value that being sat in an office with networkers, cowards and creeps.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Wanting to be paid is the problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    dd972 wrote: »
    I've hated every job I've ever had, so being unemployed no biggie for me, recent research concluded that being stuck in a job you hate is worse for your mental health than being unemployed.

    Jeez i dunno about that

    At times i hated my old job but i loved my team...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Specialun wrote: »
    Is being unemployed the most soul destroying thing ever

    I'd say being raped or the loss of a child probably pips it tbh..............


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    Specialun wrote: »
    So im now on week three on my first time ever unemployed. I decided to track everything with a diary to hopefully keep sane or just because ive fook all else to do,

    To put it into context im 29. Hold a college degree and have years in IT sales/business de elopment a sector which is tough and shown by the media as the sector to be in

    So ive applied for 11 jobs

    2- opened for sh!tes and giggles as internal rep had be offered job already
    1- sorry you dont fell the criteria
    The rest with zero contact..

    One giant company (it green, its a fruit,great for tarts) i applied for 2 roles and i was recommended internally,both times i mailed the recruiters and both lacked the respect to reply

    Yesterday i visited the dole who gave megrief as my redundant pack was on non headed paper..i had to go back to old company and get headed paper

    ROFL

    I know After hours isnt the correct forum for this its the highest volume forum on here

    So AH tell me yer experiences...cheer me up

    How do you fill the day as im going off my nut

    Give the money back so and then we'll see how miserable you are.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    mikom wrote: »
    I'd say being raped or the loss of a child probably pips it tbh..............

    F**king hell like, you can't say anything here nowadays without white knighting... but THIS.... jeez Mikom


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭MrWalsh


    Was made redundant after 14 years in a job. The team was like a family. The redundancy payment allowed me take some time out.

    Best 2 years of my life EVER. Back working a couple of years now and I just feel like Im on a treadmill. My priorities totally changed during the 2 years off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    dd972 wrote: »
    I've hated every job I've ever had, so being unemployed no biggie for me, recent research concluded that being stuck in a job you hate is worse for your mental health than being unemployed.


    Only if you don't hate being unemployed.

    Learn a language or a musical instrument to fill the day, something of far more intrinsic value that being sat in an office with networkers, cowards and creeps.


    Ahh, clearly you're not a fan of being employed, cuts into your leisure time.


    OP would you think about using your skills to do volunteer work? You'll be able to keep your social welfare benefits while also keeping your skills sharp and meeting people who could well lead to you gaining employment again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    mikom wrote: »
    I'd say being raped or the loss of a child probably pips it tbh..............


    Fook me...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,346 ✭✭✭King George VI


    I've been unemployed a couple of times in my life and I think it's ****in' great... for about a week. After that it's boring. Thankfully I haven't been unemployed in about 3 years. Just keep trying OP. You'll get there eventually.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,179 ✭✭✭hfallada


    Honestly retail is the most soul destroying thing ever. Its like Ground hog the film. But at least Ground hog days in the film. In real life you still do the same tasks everyday, still deal with the same ****ty customers and deal with managers with a superiority complex.I did 1 week of retail in TY as work experience. It gave me the motivation to go to college. Literally everyone told me to go to college in that job. So I did to make sure I dont have to work retail for the rest of my life

    I worked retail last year(kinda full-time/part-time in college) and honestly everyday I slowly lost the will to live.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    Specialun wrote: »
    So AH tell me yer experiences...cheer me up

    How do you fill the day as im going off my nut

    Public amenities and very cost effective amenities that require payment yet kill a lot of time for your buck would be the way to go. Visit a second hand book shop, then the library, then a cafe for tea, then lidl, then fas (or whatever it is now) etc.. Spend no more than 10 euros and accept no less than 4 hours out of the house


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Nope it's fvcking awesome. What a gorgeous March day it was today. Sun blazing away in that gentle little playful "just in case you forgot lads, summer's on the way" way that it has, the delightful little scamp. 188 quid in the back burner. And as the droves March endlessly into drab grey buildings to coup themselves away and clickity clack away as that demonic blue-white screen light scorches their soul away through their blood shot eyeballs, everyday is a summer holiday for us. Up at 10 to pop down to the phoenix Park to hand feed some cute little deer.

    Then into the city centre for a spot of archery. Archery no less! Sure why not, have the time to learn and always wanted to. All the time in the world. Pop in for a quick pint of some pineapple ale in a nice little beer garden with a good book, just chillin like. Stopping to have a bit of a laugh with the other free people in between chapters.

    Pop in for a little bet on Cheltenham. Just a small one mind, fiver each way double. Free tea and sausage sandwiches? Don't mind if I do. Thank you mister bookmaker. Boom! Two second places. That'll do nicely.

    Then a spot of people watching down on grafton Street. And take in some busking. Some of these guys are actually pretty good. Must be from all the time they have to practice from being on the dole I guess?

    And it's only 5:20. Tuesdays are awesome!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    strobe wrote: »
    Nope it's fvcking awesome. What a gorgeous March day it was today. Sun blazing away in that gentle little playful "just in case you forgot lads, summer's on the way" way that it has, the delightful little scamp. 188 quid in the back burner. And as the droves March endlessly into drab grey buildings to coup themselves away and clickity clack away as that demonic blue-white screen light scorches their soul away through their blood shot eyeballs, everyday is a summer holiday for us. Up at 10 to pop down to the phoenix Park to hand feed some cute little deer.

    Then into the city centre for a spot of archery. Archery no less! Sure why not, have the time to learn and always wanted to. All the time in the world. Pop in for a quick pint of some pineapple ale in a nice little beer garden with a good book, just chillin like. Stopping to have a bit of a laugh with the other free people in between chapters.

    Pop in for a little bet on Cheltenham. Just a small one mind, fiver each way double. Free tea and sausage sandwiches? Don't mind if I do. Thank you mister bookmaker. Boom! Two second places. That'll do nicely.

    Then a spot of people watching down on grafton Street. And take in some busking. Some of these guys are actually pretty good. Must be from all the time they have to practice from being on the dole I guess?

    And it's only 5:20. Tuesdays are awesome!

    That does sound awesome


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭blackbird 49


    My husband was made redundant in October 2011, it was hard for him after been in the same job since he left school, 29 yrs in total. For the first year he didn't do much ie look for work but the depression started to sink in, he started drinking every night even drinking wine that had been in the garage for ages could of been out of date he never noticed, I tried to get him interested in things I go jogging/walking buthe had no interest and he put on a bit of weight, in January 2013 he started a ce scheme and while it was not his cup of tea it got him out of bed in the morning, at the end of Nov 2013 he got offered a job he had applied for and started that in December 2013 he's now in that job over a year and loves it, I have to admit the depression still comes and goes with him but as he says himself it did effect him badly being unemployed as he felt worthless, my advise is to keep busy take up a hobby something to get you out of the bed and while you may not get replies back keep applying for jobs, ( it's one thing social welfare will keep asking you) or try and get on one of the courses social welfare have also. Sorry for the long post. Good luck


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    hfallada wrote: »
    Honestly retail is the most soul destroying thing ever. Its like Ground hog the film. But at least Ground hog days in the film. In real life you still do the same tasks everyday, still deal with the same ****ty customers and deal with managers with a superiority complex.I did 1 week of retail in TY as work experience. It gave me the motivation to go to college. Literally everyone told me to go to college in that job. So I did to make sure I dont have to work retail for the rest of my life

    I worked retail last year(kinda full-time/part-time in college) and honestly everyday I slowly lost the will to live.

    I worked a a summer in retail when I was 16, the money was above the adult minimum wage (just before the crash in 2008, summer 2007), but nothing ever made me want to go to college as much, 4 months felt like an era of mankind, but then others had worked for 20+years and many had say college wasn't for them and had been there but dropped out. I was always good at school but college was just a thing that i felt I was supposed to do, having worked there, I then knew I had to do

    The funny thing is that was a different time in attitudes, people who had gotten their degress would be embarassed to work retail, because they couldn't become the job their degree specified , accountant, engineer what have you.

    In the mid 2000's, The whole expectation and aspirational part of the future just getting brighter and brighter for no reason is something I really miss in a way.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭ClovenHoof


    It is only soul destroying if you determine your worth as a human being by subjugation to an employer.

    When I was unemployed, the dole took care of the bills until I found a new job. I did not sit at home all day watching TV. I hiked in the Dublin Mountains, taught myself to paint watercolours, explored parts of Dublin I had never been too.

    Realise your worth is greater than being a wage slave. A job is only a means to get money, it is all bull**** apart form that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    ClovenHoof wrote: »
    It is only soul destroying if you determine your worth as a human being by subjugation to an employer.

    When I was unemployed, the dole took care of the bills until I found a new job. I did not sit at home all day watching TV. I hiked in the Dublin Mountains, taught myself to paint watercolours, explored parts of Dublin I had never been too.

    Realise your worth is bigger than being a wage slave. A job is only a means to get money, it is all bull**** apart form that.

    This is all true but its easier said than done. People always want to know what you do for a living, its hard to say you're not working. People make assumptions, you can lose your sense of value. I found it really hard to adjust after my job of 11 yrs went, it was like losing my family in a way. I did volunteer work and kept busy but its a big mental adjustment especially when society only sees value in paid work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭dd972


    strobe wrote: »
    Nope it's fvcking awesome. What a gorgeous March day it was today. Sun blazing away in that gentle little playful "just in case you forgot lads, summer's on the way" way that it has, the delightful little scamp. 188 quid in the back burner. And as the droves March endlessly into drab grey buildings to coup themselves away and clickity clack away as that demonic blue-white screen light scorches their soul away through their blood shot eyeballs, everyday is a summer holiday for us. Up at 10 to pop down to the phoenix Park to hand feed some cute little deer.

    Then into the city centre for a spot of archery. Archery no less! Sure why not, have the time to learn and always wanted to. All the time in the world. Pop in for a quick pint of some pineapple ale in a nice little beer garden with a good book, just chillin like. Stopping to have a bit of a laugh with the other free people in between chapters.

    Pop in for a little bet on Cheltenham. Just a small one mind, fiver each way double. Free tea and sausage sandwiches? Don't mind if I do. Thank you mister bookmaker. Boom! Two second places. That'll do nicely.

    Then a spot of people watching down on grafton Street. And take in some busking. Some of these guys are actually pretty good. Must be from all the time they have to practice from being on the dole I guess?

    And it's only 5:20. Tuesdays are awesome!

    Bloody Hell, 3 people I know have already resigned after reading that !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Streetwalker


    Have to say being in a low paying job you hate is worse than the dole. With the race to the bottom in full flow under this governments watch things are set to get only worse. Used to drive trucks and the pay was okay at 15.80 an hour but guys out there doing it for 5 euro an hour now and drawing the dole. Can't say I blame them it's dog eat dog at this stage.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭oceanman


    Have to say being in a low paying job you hate is worse than the dole. With the race to the bottom in full flow under this governments watch things are set to get only worse. Used to drive trucks and the pay was okay at 15.80 an hour but guys out there doing it for 5 euro an hour now and drawing the dole. Can't say I blame them it's dog eat dog at this stage.
    yep that's sadly very true...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 616 ✭✭✭duckcfc


    I was unemployed for 5 years and had great time. I could do what I wanted when I wanted and them wee lie ins in winter time were great. I now work for myself and and would rather be unemployed that working for someone else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭FalconGirl


    Starting wages have decreased significantly since start of recession and efficency management and timing technology is being implemented widespread now. Workers are being effectively worked to the bone for little pay nowadays and expected to just be grateful for having a job. I can see the toll its taking on people's mental state.

    I find it quite sickening to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    mikom wrote: »
    I'd say being raped or the loss of a child probably pips it tbh..............

    lol dark


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,712 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Take some yokes OP and party on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    Specialun wrote: »
    So im now on week three on my first time ever unemployed. I decided to track everything with a diary to hopefully keep sane or just because ive fook all else to do,

    To put it into context im 29. Hold a college degree and have years in IT sales/business de elopment a sector which is tough and shown by the media as the sector to be in

    So ive applied for 11 jobs

    2- opened for sh!tes and giggles as internal rep had be offered job already
    1- sorry you dont fell the criteria
    The rest with zero contact..

    One giant company (it green, its a fruit,great for tarts) i applied for 2 roles and i was recommended internally,both times i mailed the recruiters and both lacked the respect to reply

    Yesterday i visited the dole who gave megrief as my redundant pack was on non headed paper..i had to go back to old company and get headed paper

    ROFL

    I know After hours isnt the correct forum for this its the highest volume forum on here

    So AH tell me yer experiences...cheer me up

    How do you fill the day as im going off my nut

    Come back in 2 years sunshine...

    Honestly, I was on off the dole for almost 2 years. I had some temp jobs during that time and I also worked for myself cleaning chimneys and washing windows. That was bloody awesome.

    What I highlighted in bold there comes across as a bit arsey. These companies are massive, with thousands of applications a day/week/month, whatever. Your CV may not have been read by somebody. It may have been entered into some software and you just didn't make the cut.

    Some will also say that working is soul destroying. My job certainly is. I am only there for less than 2 years and I hate almost every day of it. They won't even fire me... the bastards. My wages are good and we have lots of perks, but that doesn't mean jack shít to be honest.

    If I were in your position I would learn a language, upskill, learn a musical instrument. I would most certainly take the time to travel as much as possible on a budget. I am quitting my shít job and emigrating in about 6 months... F it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭todders


    strobe wrote: »
    Nope it's fvcking awesome. What a gorgeous March day it was today. Sun blazing away in that gentle little playful "just in case you forgot lads, summer's on the way" way that it has, the delightful little scamp. 188 quid in the back burner. And as the droves March endlessly into drab grey buildings to coup themselves away and clickity clack away as that demonic blue-white screen light scorches their soul away through their blood shot eyeballs, everyday is a summer holiday for us. Up at 10 to pop down to the phoenix Park to hand feed some cute little deer.

    Then into the city centre for a spot of archery. Archery no less! Sure why not, have the time to learn and always wanted to. All the time in the world. Pop in for a quick pint of some pineapple ale in a nice little beer garden with a good book, just chillin like. Stopping to have a bit of a laugh with the other free people in between chapters.

    Pop in for a little bet on Cheltenham. Just a small one mind, fiver each way double. Free tea and sausage sandwiches? Don't mind if I do. Thank you mister bookmaker. Boom! Two second places. That'll do nicely.

    Then a spot of people watching down on grafton Street. And take in some busking. Some of these guys are actually pretty good. Must be from all the time they have to practice from being on the dole I guess?

    And it's only 5:20. Tuesdays are awesome!

    Yokes?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Smidge


    My husband was made redundant in October 2011, it was hard for him after been in the same job since he left school, 29 yrs in total. For the first year he didn't do much ie look for work but the depression started to sink in, he started drinking every night even drinking wine that had been in the garage for ages could of been out of date he never noticed, I tried to get him interested in things I go jogging/walking buthe had no interest and he put on a bit of weight, in January 2013 he started a ce scheme and while it was not his cup of tea it got him out of bed in the morning, at the end of Nov 2013 he got offered a job he had applied for and started that in December 2013 he's now in that job over a year and loves it, I have to admit the depression still comes and goes with him but as he says himself it did effect him badly being unemployed as he felt worthless, my advise is to keep busy take up a hobby something to get you out of the bed and while you may not get replies back keep applying for jobs, ( it's one thing social welfare will keep asking you) or try and get on one of the courses social welfare have also. Sorry for the long post. Good luck

    No such a thing exists


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭dixiefly


    Specialun wrote: »
    So im now on week three on my first time ever unemployed. I decided to track everything with a diary to hopefully keep sane or just because ive fook all else to do,

    To put it into context im 29. Hold a college degree and have years in IT sales/business de elopment a sector which is tough and shown by the media as the sector to be in

    So ive applied for 11 jobs

    2- opened for sh!tes and giggles as internal rep had be offered job already
    1- sorry you dont fell the criteria
    The rest with zero contact..

    One giant company (it green, its a fruit,great for tarts) i applied for 2 roles and i was recommended internally,both times i mailed the recruiters and both lacked the respect to reply

    Yesterday i visited the dole who gave megrief as my redundant pack was on non headed paper..i had to go back to old company and get headed paper

    ROFL

    I know After hours isnt the correct forum for this its the highest volume forum on here

    So AH tell me yer experiences...cheer me up

    How do you fill the day as im going off my nut
    Three weeks is not a long time to be unemployed at all, try and do some things that you find it difficult to get to do when working.

    Also, try and identify jobs most suited to you and hold out for them, I.e. don't panic into taking the first job coming. Also, remember that there are loads of fre training out there, use the time off to identify and take some training.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    Soul crusher 2000 patent pending.


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