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Willfarman · 17-10-2014 09:33AM

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Moved cattle into new paddock yesterday when I counted today the followed me to the gate as if they were hungry and looking for fresh grass.
Loads of grazing left in paddock leafy grass so are they lacking something from this paddock?
Lots of rain last few days should I supplement with meal from now until I stick them in the shed.

A bale of hay or straw just to give them a bit of fibre.

on the river · 17-10-2014 09:35AM

The cattle are eating down the after grass well. Its seems the extra fert I put out a few months ago is paying
dividend now

_Brian · 17-10-2014 09:37AM

I said wrote: »

Moved cattle into new paddock yesterday when I counted today the followed me to the gate as if they were hungry and looking for fresh grass.
Loads of grazing left in paddock leafy grass so are they lacking something from this paddock?
Lots of rain last few days should I supplement with meal from now until I stick them in the shed.

Hear lots of lads saying that "the good is gone from grass at this stage".. Not really sure, small bit of meal or rolled barley would be handy fed too.

on the river · 17-10-2014 09:38AM

_Brian wrote: »

Hear lots of lads saying that "the good is gone from grass at this stage".. Not really sure, small bit of meal or rolled barley would be handy fed too.

The rain is ruining it. It was a good summer though

Charliebull · 17-10-2014 10:42AM

if they are dry cows they will be fine, mine are at the same ****e, tough love this year

sandydan · 17-10-2014 02:57PM

I said wrote: »

Moved cattle into new paddock yesterday when I counted today the followed me to the gate as if they were hungry and looking for fresh grass.
Loads of grazing left in paddock leafy grass so are they lacking something from this paddock?
Lots of rain last few days should I supplement with meal from now until I stick them in the shed.

same here so i avoid going near them after 3, they just follow and get unsettled for evening. thinking back a few years an old timer told me never feed cattle in evening for same reason and he added they more or less have their spot for lying for night picked out and are warm, if they get up he reconed meant they had lost an hours feeding ie heating up their spot and may not even lie if weather bad enough,anyway i recon grass has lost its feeding value especially if manured recently as opposed to grass saved 5 weeks , but who has that, so nuts or barley and maize or rolled oats is good supplement but costs

Sunset V · 20-10-2014 07:41PM

Anybody see yer man from Dawn in the rag this week? Outrageous arrogance telling farmers to farm better and make more money!!! Has me in a rage

onyerbikepat · 20-10-2014 07:52PM

Just on shelter and cattle lying down at night. I split a 10 acre field into 3 paddocks this year. On of the paddocks has no shelter so I was keeping an eye on the weather while they were in it. Moved them on the Saturday morning before the bad weather, but even at that noticed they all had being lying down in the only hallow in the paddock. You could see all the dung there. Shelter - very important for cattle. As good as any house in bad weather.

Farmer · 20-10-2014 07:59PM

Sunset V wrote: »

Anybody see yer man from Dawn in the rag this week? Outrageous arrogance telling farmers to farm better and make more money!!! Has me in a rage

Whatever happened with the protests over specs? Were they deemed to be ineffective. Is the fat little pig laughing out from his brick house as the battle weary wolf huffs and puffs in vain?

just do it · 20-10-2014 09:03PM

onyerbikepat wrote: »

Just on shelter and cattle lying down at night. I split a 10 acre field into 3 paddocks this year. On of the paddocks has no shelter so I was keeping an eye on the weather while they were in it. Moved them on the Saturday morning before the bad weather, but even at that noticed they all had being lying down in the only hallow in the paddock. You could see all the dung there. Shelter - very important for cattle. As good as any house in bad weather.

And even the most exposed flat paddocks have shelter! I've one such field and on a very windy day I got down low where they lie and amazingly there wasn't a puff of wind.

sandydan · 20-10-2014 09:13PM

onyerbikepat wrote: »

Just on shelter and cattle lying down at night. I split a 10 acre field into 3 paddocks this year. On of the paddocks has no shelter so I was keeping an eye on the weather while they were in it. Moved them on the Saturday morning before the bad weather, but even at that noticed they all had being lying down in the only hallow in the paddock. You could see all the dung there. Shelter - very important for cattle. As good as any house in bad weather.

wind breaks have benefit no doubt but careful planning has to be done to put in proper location. some i know around here wish they left some ditches in place,but they need a little thought as if in line with prevailing wind they serve no purpose. being alongside forestry causes ground to stay wet for longer,

Charliebull · 21-10-2014 11:46AM

ANYONE else get a form from ICBF regarding the Beef Genomics Scheme asking to fill out info, I have already completed on line

whelan2 · 30-10-2014 10:32PM

scanned sucklers today, 1 that had a section was not in calf and another is carrying dead twins:( 10 others in calf. Also did dna on all suckler calves and weaned some

sandydan · 30-10-2014 10:59PM

whelan2 wrote: »

scanned sucklers today, 1 that had a section was not in calf and another is carrying dead twins:( 10 others in calf. Also did dna on all suckler calves and weaned some

do you run a blood test on cows to detemine mineral levels. copper iodine,selenuim . its rather disheartening to get those results despite as they say around here"at least it's outside door" never had any luck getting cows with c sections back in calf so earmark them for factory. luckily had none with about 8 years then calf and cow went west.

whelan2 · 30-10-2014 11:20PM

glad section cow isnt in calf, she was a lunatic to deal with, had bloat and calf was upside down, knew she wasnt in calf as she was bulling a week or 2 ago. Other cow had twins this year too, scanning man said she was a mess inside and twins where about 3 months old. No we dont blood them for minerals, we are winding down the sucklers, too much hassle

just do it · 04-11-2014 12:44PM

just do it wrote: »

4 FTY calves here in last few weeks and I'd say the cow influence is important. Gestations - 275, 284, 292, & 301. First 3 were handy slips of calves that fill out quickly once born. Other one was a good bit larger and back end needed some help with the jack. 3 of them were bull calves.

Correction. The one that needed assistance was a bull calf by ADX and had the longest gestation.

just do it · 04-11-2014 12:45PM

just do it wrote: »

4 FTY calves here in last few weeks and I'd say the cow influence is important. Gestations - 275, 284, 292, & 301. First 3 were handy slips of calves that fill out quickly once born. Other one was a good bit larger and back end needed some help with the jack. 3 of them were bull calves.

Correction. The one that needed assistance was a bull calf by ADX and had the longest gestation.

Charliebull · 04-11-2014 01:16PM

just do it wrote: »

Correction. The one that needed assistance was a bull calf by ADX and had the longest gestation.

heifer with FTY went 290 days here and was a big bull calf that had to be jacked

he looks like a drowned rat this morning lying out in a corner of the field

heifer with HCA went 279 days and was a heifer and she calved unassisted

Charliebull · 19-11-2014 03:19PM

any one apply for the liver fluke testing

if so anyone hear anything back yet

also see a couple labs are giving reduced rates for PI free Herd Status

I said · 08-03-2015 01:22AM

Factory quotes are back will store prices drop or will the grass men pickup
The slack as the weather improves,

I said · 28-03-2015 09:55AM

Ballymahon Thursday some of the steer prices would love to be selling lots. 61.62 and 63

Mad4simmental · 28-03-2015 10:03AM

Put 90 on that list to. I didn't think lmx would outsell chx. Hard to know not seeing them but they must have been savage stock.

I said · 28-03-2015 10:05AM

Mad4simmental wrote: »

Put 90 on that list to. I didn't think lmx would outsell chx. Hard to know not seeing them but they must have been savage stock.

That's Ballymahon ch or lm nothing else gets a look in great place for selling

Reggie. · 28-03-2015 10:05AM

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Ballymahon Thursday some of the steer prices would love to be selling lots. 61.62 and 63

Lot 61 must have been some animal

I said · 28-03-2015 10:08AM

Reggie. wrote: »

Lot 61 must have been some animal

Plenty of men in for them always drives them on

Reggie. · 28-03-2015 10:13AM

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Plenty of men in for them always drives them on

Supply and demand

Miname · 28-03-2015 08:10PM

250kg Charolais bull 1080 and a 220kg made 990. How can anyone justify this.

Mad4simmental · 28-03-2015 08:13PM

Miname wrote: »

250kg Charolais bull 1080 and a 220kg made 990. How can anyone justify this.

Long may it continue :-)

Farrell · 28-03-2015 08:15PM

Miname wrote: »

250kg Charolais bull 1080 and a 220kg made 990. How can anyone justify this.

Is that Carrigallen?
Must of been a good calf

Kovu · 28-03-2015 08:16PM

It's ridiculous. We're our own worst enemy at times.

You'd be as well look in the paper, stick a pin in a race of horses and put a bet on it. You've about the same chance of making money only the horse could have better odds!

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