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Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Read Mod Warning in OP 7/1/15

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  • Posts: 27,583 ✭✭✭✭ Elliott Ugly Owl


    Night folks :)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,608 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    Smegball wrote: »
    Yeah, a centre back is the main priority. I would also want another winger, a right back and a striker before Barkley.

    But still, I think he could potentially be a super player.

    LVG has already said a midfielder will be bought so that is an area that will be strengthened .
    A CB and RB are the priority imo and after those 3 positions are sorted I think LVG needs to look at a winger/striker with pace.Depay might be a good option there.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see 5 players join this summer with a similar amount leaving the club.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Manutd_4life


    For some reason, I really believe the team will start to click in the next few games against the bigger teams. I don't know why, but there is something about those games that makes me feel the players will step up and actually play football.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭Adamocovic


    yabadabado wrote: »
    LVG has already said a midfielder will be bought so that is an area that will be strengthened .
    A CB and RB are the priority imo and after those 3 positions are sorted I think LVG needs to look at a winger/striker with pace.Depay might be a good option there.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see 5 players join this summer with a similar amount leaving the club.

    I dont understand his logic about another midfielder, only way is if he sells some that are already there. If he sells Mata I'll be devastated ha!

    No doubt he has a plan set up, I just hope not too much shuffling happens. In my view we have the quality necessary to compete (Better individuals than previous years) but need them all to start working together and playing well. I'm worried if too many players come and go during summer we might enter another transitional period. Hopefully not!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭Smegball


    Mata will be sold IMO, its a shame I think.

    The attacking players aren't making the runs for Mata to feed. Mata would thrive with some proper movement which has finally been shown by Rooney tonight.

    I fear, Falcao could be the same. He could do excellently at another club with proper service. Although, I suspect the knee injury ruined him at the top level.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,274 ✭✭✭duffman13


    Who would buy Mata and how much could we actually get for him? He's a luxury player but hopefully in 6 months we'll be able to accommodate a little luxury


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭MythicalMadMan


    For some reason, I really believe the team will start to click in the next few games against the bigger teams. I don't know why, but there is something about those games that makes me feel the players will step up and actually play football.

    I think it will depend on how well our passing has improved while being pressed high its all well and good passing under no pressure but liverpool will press us high with intensity.

    Arsenal game will be interesting because we play similar but thier forwards have been better this season.

    Man City I hope they are as lazy as they have shown since xmas. if Yaya bothers his arse he could destroy us hopefully Pelegrini gets his team selection and tatics wrong again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,902 ✭✭✭MagicIRL


    3 points and Wigan 2.0 lost. Wonderful Wednesday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭MythicalMadMan


    duffman13 wrote: »
    Who would buy Mata and how much could we actually get for him? He's a luxury player but hopefully in 6 months we'll be able to accommodate a little luxury

    Sorry but luxury player is becoming a new buzzword and its mainly because he was sold by a Jose team who likes hard working strong players.
    All managers have blueprints of how they like thier team to setup up and certain players no matter how good (bar world class) wont fit the system.

    LVG himself didnt want Riquelme at barca who went on to be a very important player at Villareal.

    If a team was built around Mata he would show his talents as he has done previously but the type of player he is, hasnt suited his last 3 manangers but thats not to say he is either a bad player or a "luxury player"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,308 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Looking forward to Arsenal game.

    I expect a big performance.

    EVENFLOW



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    irishfeen wrote: »
    Yep, Everton fans are getting exactly what they deserve ... their taunting of Moyes at United was disgusting after what he had done for that club over a decade... they had forgot it was Moyes who built Everton into an incredibly hard team to beat..

    How they would take 4th, 5th or 6th now ... they lower they finish the better for me, they deserve everything they get this season.

    You could come to regret that statement if Everton win the Europa League.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,097 ✭✭✭shadowcomplex


    I wouldn't be surprised If di-Maria was sold to PSG in the Summer and along with him I expect, Mata, Herrera, Rafael Falcoa and either jones or Evans all to leave the club. Of all those players I'd love to keep Mata, if he was playing as a number 10 behind Rooney with pacey attackers like Robben, Sanchez or Bale he would show his true class. I think blind will compete with carrick for the holding role for the time being but I feel LVG wants a more dominant force in midfield to be the all rounder instead of Herrera, Strootman,Vidal or Schweinstegger would be his choices I reckon, for defence I think Clyne will be signed as our new right back and we will also sign a new Centre back


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭newballsplease


    "Maybe our best match of the season"-Lvg


    Is he sane? Seriously. Ok Utd could have scored 2/3 goals but so could have Newcastle. 2 great saves from DDG and a blatant 100% peno.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,308 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    United played well enough to win the 3 points.

    Better team won. Not best performance of season but it sure ain't as bad as some are suggesting.

    The last 2 games have seen a improvement in performance. That has to be welcomed.

    EVENFLOW



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,097 ✭✭✭shadowcomplex


    Given the choice would you guys take 4th but lose to Liverpool in the cup final?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,097 ✭✭✭shadowcomplex


    I think we will beat spurs in the next league match, I also think Chelsea will beat Southampton which should see them out of the race, unfortunately I also can see Liverpool winning away to Swansea


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭mcratsix


    Given the choice would you guys take 4th but lose to Liverpool in the cup final?

    I'd rather we come fourth and lose to liverpool.

    On the subject of ins and outs, I'd really hate to see Raf or Mata leave.

    Even tonight, for example, I feel the two of them in the starting eleven would improve our game significantly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭newballsplease


    Given the choice would you guys take 4th but lose to Liverpool in the cup final?

    Yes for me. Have to be thinking about the bigger picture imo. Champions lg qualification is a must this season. Doesnt alot of money from Adidas deal depend on it also?


  • Posts: 7,639 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Delighted with and for Fellaini this season, that's all for now.


  • Posts: 19,923 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Evans was easily United's best player tonight. De Gea was good but it was Evans who had to deal with Smalling's absenteeism which was apparent a good few times.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭Montroseee


    stankratz wrote: »
    Delighted with and for Fellaini this season, that's all for now.

    Same here, been undisputedly one of the best outfield players this season. Worth keeping for sure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,097 ✭✭✭shadowcomplex


    Yes for me. Have to be thinking about the bigger picture imo. Champions lg qualification is a must this season. Doesnt alot of money from Adidas deal depend on it also?


    Only if we don't qualify for the champions league by the end of next season, it will be reduced somewhat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,191 ✭✭✭✭Shanotheslayer


    keane2097 wrote: »
    There were clowns in here that wanted David Moyes replaced with Roberto Martinez last year. Plenty spoofers around alright.

    If your going by last Season then yeh Martinez would have been better than Moyes......


  • Posts: 19,923 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If your going by last Season then yeh Martinez would have been better than Moyes......

    Shame about every single other moment they've been managers and Martinez not having Moyes' defenders. Though I do regard Martinez as a decent manager.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭spiralism


    LVG definitely does seem to reckon we're getting closer to what he wants which is good and the performances, while still not great at times, are improving. Hopefully the ramp in difficulty will bring the best out of us, after all, a few of his sides had a big "coming out" performance where things just clicked against top quality opposition (Spain 1 Holland 5, Bayern knocking us out a few years back)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭Giggsy11


    One very worrying thing about Yesterday's game was how Rojo lost almost all aerial battles against Obertan, it's Obertan for crying out load, lad who couldn't even run properly at ManUtd. He is so weak in the air but still won most of the headers against Rojo (haven't seen stats, just going by what I remember).

    Also we lost almost all the aerial battles and 50-50 balls. At one point Herrera didn't even bother for header. Hopefully Blind adds some muscle this summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,521 ✭✭✭Giggsy11


    Also God I hope we beat **** out of Arsenal at Old Trafford on Monday. I don't mind 2-3 **** performances if we get 3 points in league but I hope we stuff Arsenal in the cup. Not sure why but I just hate them (or for the PC brigade I dislike them).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,902 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Id expect to to see the following leave n the summer
    Rafael, Evans, Mata and Falcao. Possibly Di Maria as well.
    Who he will bring in is anyones guess but Id like to see Clyne, one from Godin, Garay or Varnane for centre half, Javi Martinez and Harry Kane.
    If Di Maria goes it will more than likely be to PSG. Would like to see Lucas Moura come in as part of any deal.
    A lot will depend on whether we get CL football which is 50-50 considering our up coming games


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,199 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    If a team was built around Mata he would show his talents as he has done previously but the type of player he is, hasnt suited his last 3 manangers but thats not to say he is either a bad player or a "luxury player"

    A player has to earn the right to to have the team built around him, it would be poor management to build a team around a player that has never performed to a world class level for your club. Why? Because you would be completely screwed if you did build the team around him and then found that he still didn't perform.

    We keep having to make excuses for Mata, that he needs to be in certain systems and he needs this and needs that. We shouldn't have to do that, the real top quality players will perform even in bad situations. We can't keep saying that he just hasn't suited the last three managers as if that is no big deal, at some point we have to accept that he simply hasn't done it for the club.

    If Juan Mata wants the team built around him then he should stand up and earn it, start winning us matches and start performing at the highest level consistently.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,995 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Robson99 wrote: »
    Id expect to to see the following leave n the summer
    Rafael, Evans, Mata and Falcao. Possibly Di Maria as well.
    Who he will bring in is anyones guess but Id like to see Clyne, one from Godin, Garay or Varnane for centre half, Javi Martinez and Harry Kane.
    If Di Maria goes it will more than likely be to PSG. Would like to see Lucas Moura come in as part of any deal.
    A lot will depend on whether we get CL football which is 50-50 considering our up coming games

    Do you want to pay 70m? Cause Levy is going to want 70m. :P


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