Milk Price- Please read Mod note in post #1

Buford T. Justice XIX · 21-02-2015 03:53AM

Milked out wrote: »

Or it could be a lower profit per litre over more litres. If you do the sums on both figures and the costs associated with them it would shine a bit more light on it. Says the fella that will prob end up throwing everything in to a box and off to the accountant at the end if the month ha. Seriously tho I'm at a cross roads myself with winter milk so will have to sit down during the summer when the head would be clearer and see what the best way is to go financially first and then consider work life balance with it once that's done

Work/life balance was worked out for me a while back. It meant letting the farm:-(.

We are ignoring the stuff after the = sign for now...

whelan2 · 21-02-2015 06:55AM

Timmaay wrote: »

Despite trying to keep Jan volumes low with less autumn calvers I still oversupplied by 80% of my liquid quote, and as a result only got at net price of 34c/l. Alot of late spring milkers ticking over in that group so wasn't too costly, but would have been nearer 38c if I stuck too the liquid quota, that could well be the difference between profit and a loss on them litres.

i milked a good few less compared to other years this winter just filled liquid contract- only had 4000 manufacturing litres.

Dawggone · 26-02-2015 08:43PM

Bf 4.43
Pr 3.4
Tbc 6k
Scc 164k
Urea 32

35.1cpl + VAT.

Happy enough.

freedominacup · 26-02-2015 09:48PM

Dawggone wrote: »

Bf 4.43
Pr 3.4
Tbc 6k
Scc 164k
Urea 32

35.1cpl + VAT.

Happy enough.

What happened the white water?

Dawggone · 26-02-2015 10:56PM

freedominacup wrote: »

What happened the white water?

That IS white water!

Forgot to say that 1cpl is deducted now and paid back in August/September.

Dawggone · 27-02-2015 11:00AM

Dawggone wrote: »

That IS white water!

Forgot to say that 1cpl is deducted now and paid back in August/September.

Correction. The 1cpl will not be deducted now. It will be taken in Mar/Apr/May and returned in July/Aug/Sept.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 27-02-2015 11:25AM

Dawggone wrote: »

Correction. The 1cpl will not be deducted now. It will be taken in Mar/Apr/May and returned in July/Aug/Sept.

What are they deducting for, Dawg? Is it to average out the cash flow?

Dawggone · 27-02-2015 01:29PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

What are they deducting for, Dawg? Is it to average out the cash flow?

It's to average out deliveries. All milk in
Mar/April/May is deducted by 1cpl/month and divided out equally per litre in July/Aug/Sept.
French like to holiday in summer months and usually like to dry off or drastically reduce production.
Suits me fine.

On an aside....I'm informed that milk price will rise in April. We'll see...

That should cheer up the more pessimistic of ye!

Greengrass1 · 27-02-2015 02:57PM

Dawggone wrote: »

Bf 4.43
Pr 3.4
Tbc 6k
Scc 164k
Urea 32

35.1cpl + VAT.

Happy enough.

Bf 4.44
P 3.89
TBC 9
SCC 72
Doing nearly 24l
Bf after dropping off the cliff

Dawggone · 27-02-2015 03:13PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Bf 4.44
P 3.89
TBC 9
SCC 72
Doing nearly 24l
Bf after dropping off the cliff

Fibre?
Energy?

Greengrass1 · 27-02-2015 03:42PM

Dawggone wrote: »

Fibre?
Energy?

There getting silage. Its giving me more milk atm with my bf reference

Deepsouthwest · 27-02-2015 04:48PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Bf 4.44
P 3.89
TBC 9
SCC 72
Doing nearly 24l
Bf after dropping off the cliff

4.44 is hardly falling of a cliff

Timmaay · 27-02-2015 04:57PM

Pr dropped from 3.46 to 3.22 here in one collection last week! That's definitely falling off a cliff! Combination of the wet weather and my dad skimping on the maize two nights I think! What's that drop worth in money terms, 2c/l?

Greengrass1 · 27-02-2015 05:22PM

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

4.44 is hardly falling of a cliff

It was 4.85

mf240 · 27-02-2015 08:08PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

It was 4.85

Bfat always higher with silage but at the expense of protien.

Im at the bottom of the cliff looking up a ya.

Prot 3.4 b fat 4.1 litres 19.4 with about half milkers calved since last summer and autumn.

6 kgs meal and baled silo.

frazzledhome · 27-02-2015 09:14PM

Fat 4.80
Pr. 3.83
La 4.78
Ur 29
Scc 167
Tbc 14

Had an avalanche of calving last week and Scc spiked to 324. We got very worried as Scc has been an issue last spring.

Our goal this year was to be below 150. We did a lot of CMT and recorded every mth changed spray teat sealer and culled anything consistently high as well as any cow that had a clinical case more than once.

We **** ourselves when it peaked again as all cows and heifers are CMT after calving. I spoke to milk quality guy and he assured me that with the large number that calved in 1 week that it would rectify and not to record till we had a break in calving. While calving isn't as hectic this wk it has dropped.

I'm going for a hape if pints to celebrate

Mrs Frazz has just reminded me that the lads have matches in the morning and therefore an earlier than normal start. Feck it I'll worry about it tomorrow as I'm a younglad

;)

Viewtodiefor · 27-02-2015 09:18PM

frazzledhome wrote: »

Fat 4.80
Pr. 3.83
La 4.78
Ur 29
Scc 167
Tbc 14

Had an avalanche of calving last week and Scc spiked to 324. We got very worried as Scc has been an issue last spring.

Our goal this year was to be below 150. We did a lot of CMT and recorded every mth changed spray teat sealer and culled anything consistently high as well as any cow that had a clinical case more than once.

We **** ourselves when it peaked again as all cows and heifers are CMT after calving. I spoke to milk quality guy and he assured me that with the large number that calved in 1 week that it would rectify and not to record till we had a break in calving. While calving isn't as hectic this wk it has dropped.

I'm going for a hape if pints to celebrate

Scc gone through the roof here. First time ever! Hope it just one r two have to test them asap. Can't see any usual suspects!

frazzledhome · 27-02-2015 09:21PM

Viewtodiefor wrote: »

Scc gone through the roof here. First time ever! Hope it just one r two have to test them asap. Can't see any usual suspects!

Brother was at diss grp last week seemed to be common thread where calving is fast

frazzledhome · 27-02-2015 09:27PM

Jan supply
Fat 4.89
Pro 3.68
Scc 171

Price 46.16 inc vat

Dawggone · 27-02-2015 09:37PM

frazzledhome wrote: »

Brother was at diss grp last week seemed to be common thread where calving is fast

When the majority of fresh calvers are over 40 days calved SCC will settle down.

We'll see how young you are at 4am!!

I'm on duty this weekend but I won't be going for a hape 'o pints!

Waaaay too old for that.

jaymla627 · 27-02-2015 09:48PM

Fat 4.4
Prot 3.68
Last 4.8
Ur 27
Scc 75
Tbc 10

Protein never went above 3.4 for Feb/March last two years only difference this year is half the heifers calved down are crossbreed compared to the last two years when their was only a handful, unbelievable the difference they make.

Dawggone · 27-02-2015 09:50PM

jaymla627 wrote: »

Fat 4.4
Prot 3.68
Last 4.8
Ur 27
Scc 75
Tbc 10

Protein never went above 3.4 for Feb/March last two years only difference this year is half the heifers calved down are crossbreed compared to last two year when their was only a handful, unbelievable the difference they make.

Litres/cow?

jaymla627 · 27-02-2015 09:58PM

Dawggone wrote: »

Litres/cow?

24 litres at the minute with 50 % of the herd heifers, only started calving 3 weeks ago so happy enough, masterplan here is all crossbreeds are put back to 400 plus kilos of milk hols bulls hoping the resulting heifers from these will push out 7,500 litres at 8% solids of a ton of meal with a 365 calving interval...

whelan2 · 27-02-2015 10:08PM

i got the recorder to just come and do a scc -1 milking- got the results 3 days later also sent a few samples of the usual suspects with milkman

Dawggone · 27-02-2015 10:19PM

jaymla627 wrote: »

24 litres at the minute with 50 % of the herd heifers, only started calving 3 weeks ago so happy enough, masterplan here is all crossbreeds are put back to 400 plus kilos of milk hols bulls hoping the resulting heifers from these will push out 7,500 litres at 8% solids of a ton of meal with a 365 calving interval...

I do hope it goes as easy as that for you!

I'm on 32.4L but have some cows milking 18mts+ and fresh calvers included also.
Should I run and hide?

Viewtodiefor · 27-02-2015 10:34PM

Dawggone wrote: »

When the majority of fresh calvers are over 40 days calved SCC will settle down.

We'll see how young you are at 4am!!

I'm on duty this weekend but I won't be going for a hape 'o pints!

Waaaay too old for that.

Yeah would agree but had plenty calves fast before n was ok . Think I need to check anyway as if it's let go it's a disaster

Buford T. Justice XIX · 28-02-2015 04:46AM

Dawggone wrote: »

I do hope it goes as easy as that for you!

I'm on 32.4L but have some cows milking 18mts+ and fresh calvers included also.
Should I run and hide?

Only reason to hide is if you ain't making money.

And you are making money;-)

Dawggone · 28-02-2015 01:52PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Only reason to hide is if you ain't making money.

And you are making money;-)

I wouldn't care to be totally dependant on any one type of farming.
If the volatility in dairy is anything like that in tillage then there may be a rude awakening in store for cowmen.
The spring calving dairymen are even more exposed...

Greengrass1 · 28-02-2015 02:06PM

Dawggone wrote: »

I wouldn't care to be totally dependant on any one type of farming.
If the volatility in dairy is anything like that in tillage then there may be a rude awakening in store for cowmen.
The spring calving dairymen are even more exposed...

We can't all have 3/4/5different enterprises
Focus on one system and ho with it is my motto

Dawggone · 28-02-2015 02:26PM

Greengrass1 wrote: »

We can't all have 3/4/5different enterprises
Focus on one system and ho with it is my motto

That's all very fine if you have the scale to ride out the storm...but when you have 3 to 4 months of peak milk and 5 to 8 months of producing very little you are seriously exposed.
What if the lowest prices "happen" to consistently be the peak milk producing months? This is a constant problem with cereals...the smaller producer selling green grain at harvest is constantly shafted.

Forward selling, IMO, must be taken seriously !!!

Sorry for pontificating.

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