Should fattys & gingers be offered legal protection from slagging

bb1234567 · 27-02-2015 12:48PM

Actually I take it back, I just searched it and a number of teenagers have commit suicide over the years due to severe bullying over their ginger hair which I find really disturbing

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/353168/Dad-of-girl-bullied-to-death-for-being-ginger-calls-for-new-hate-crime-laws

I find this story most shocking, I just find it hard to believe such a stunning young girl would be bullied so badly over something as superficial as hair colour.And in England , where gingers aren't even very rare, like of all places.. Very sad...

bb1234567 · 27-02-2015 12:52PM

eamonnq wrote: »

How can you be sure of that though ??

Well I just thought that if anybody slagged me about having brown hair I would just find it so ridiculous that it wouldn't really affect me. But I guess it does hurt other people.

ShowMeTheCash · 27-02-2015 12:52PM

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

The same could be said for smokers. And motorists. And sportsmen. And clumsy people.

Not in the same ball park also another stupid comparison.

People who smoke are simply stupid, they know themselves they are stupid and everyone around them knows it is stupid but people do it.

Accidents will happen, being fat is not an accident.

Shiraz 4.99 · 27-02-2015 01:20PM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Nice day for a spot of trolling.

Most trolls are fat & ginger too if our cartoons have thought us anything.

Strong Life in Dublin · 27-02-2015 01:31PM

Trigger Happy wrote: »

You can lose weight and dye you hair.
But you cannot change your ethnicity or skin colour !

Ah surre you can change your skin colour with some bleach

Little CuChulainn · 27-02-2015 01:40PM

I imagine the next boards meet up will be missing the large and the ginger people.

I've never understood why people felt the need to slag people like this. It just seems so pathetic. I know some of them try to pass it off as "just stating a fact" but really it's none of their business. Do you walk through an old folks home telling people they look like they are close to death? It's just stating a fact after all.

languagenerd · 27-02-2015 01:57PM

Nucular Arms wrote: »

Racism implies a percieved inferioriy in the target of the racist comments, and a corresponding perception of their own races superiority.

Also blondes have the whole 'dumb blondes' thing but no one seems particularly affronted by that.

Also, are people not aware that lads basically slag everyone / anything all the time?

But there *is* a sense of inferiority at times. I've seen comments on boards where people say all gingers are ugly, or that gingers should be purged (exact word used), or that they're all "horrible sickly looking things", or the whole "no soul" thing which got old a decade ago but refuses to die. Not to mention that awful phrase "beaten like a ginger stepchild".

If someone who makes the news for any reason has red hair, it *will* be mentioned in the comments ("that ginger twat", "oh who cares what that ginger fcuker thinks?", etc). Just look at the Ed Sheeran thread. When Justin Bieber or George Ezra announce dates here, do people complain about the "brown-haired twats"? No, because that doesn't seem insulting or disparaging, whereas "ginger" for some reason does.

And you can call it tongue-in-cheek, but it creates a social norm by which it's fine to tease/mock/bully/insult/look down on redheads, because it's not seen as a problem. Even in the media. On an RTE sketch, Maeve Higgins posed as a hairdresser who secretly added hair dye to shampoo to "cure" ginger people, and Dublin Zoo ran a promotion that compared ginger kids to orangutans. Can you imagine a sketch suggesting secretly changing someone's skin colour (or even wearing make-up to change skin colour) or an ad comparing black kids to monkeys?!

It is the born of the same sort of attitude that racism comes from, and I don't think to compares to the "dumb blonde" thing in that sense.

thelad95 · 27-02-2015 01:59PM

Unless they have a medical condition, most overweight people only have themselves to blame.

Gingers on the other hand have no choice.

RollieFingers · 27-02-2015 02:03PM

In that song about fat girls your one is singing about "skinny bitches" etc. and nobody bats an eyelid, very popular song in the charts that receives significant airtime......but if on the other hand Rhianna or Ellie Goulding released a song about "fat bitches" there would be absolute uproar! Why is that?

Eugene Norman · 27-02-2015 02:04PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Actually I take it back, I just searched it and a number of teenagers have commit suicide over the years due to severe bullying over their ginger hair which I find really disturbing
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/353168/Dad-of-girl-bullied-to-death-for-being-ginger-calls-for-new-hate-crime-laws

I find this story most shocking, I just find it hard to believe such a stunning young girl would be bullied so badly over something as superficial as hair colour.And in England , where gingers aren't even very rare, like of all places.. Very sad...

Historically an anti-celtic thing there.

Mint Aero · 27-02-2015 02:19PM

The ginger thing is nothing short of hate and after hours/boards.ie shouldn't allow gingers to be mocked on a forum like this. I've said this before.

27-02-2015 02:23PM

I love redheads. LOVE. THEM.

De fcuking lish.

Overweightedness wouldn't be my thing though. Despite having a little wobbliness here and there myself.

gazzamc · 27-02-2015 02:28PM

Slag yourself before they slag you, no fun for them then..

I'm neither but my brother is ginger and he seems to take it well, it annoyed him when he was young but you just need to grow thicker skin and just take it.. Plus he's heard almost all the ginger slags from myself and my family.

It's only big again now due to ed sheeran.

end of the road · 27-02-2015 03:02PM

Alexis Sanchez wrote: »

LOL, what a stupid post.

Being black, brown or white isn't unhealthy. Being fat IS unhealthy.

There is undoubtedly something wrong with being fat--your health. Oh and let's not forget that us tax-payers have to foot the bill for any medical costs a person's weight problem incurs.

thats our job. if its not them, it will be something else. go protest about it

Little CuChulainn · 27-02-2015 05:44PM

thelad95 wrote: »

Unless they have a medical condition, most overweight people only have themselves to blame.

Gingers on the other hand have no choice.

How do you know whether they have a medical condition or not?

hatrickpatrick · 27-02-2015 06:01PM

As far as I'm concerned no hate speech should be illegal. Go ahead and bash me for that if you like, the beauty of free speech is that you can do so and I can't stop you

27-02-2015 06:05PM

ColeTrain wrote: »

Diet ginger ale is the devils drink

We just call it ale.

Capt'n Midnight · 27-02-2015 09:41PM

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

Jesus! Next we will not be able to discriminate against the lazy or incompetent!

Just don't vote for them next time.

ChunkyLover54 · 27-02-2015 09:56PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

ginger slagging isn't real. No ginger kid goes home after hours of torment at school about their ginger hair and cries themselves to sleep at night.

I can't be sure but I would imagine a kid with red hair would almost certainly be upset if they were continuously insulted for being different.

Nobody likes being personally insulted for something they had no choice in.

Cienciano · 27-02-2015 10:47PM

Alexis Sanchez wrote: »

LOL, what a stupid post.

Being black, brown or white isn't unhealthy. Being fat IS unhealthy.

There is undoubtedly something wrong with being fat--your health. Oh and let's not forget that us tax-payers have to foot the bill for any medical costs a person's weight problem incurs.

Hold on, your post is the stupid post. You specificly say "unhealthy" as the reason its ok to slag fat people, not the "it's their own doing" reason?
Well if being unhealthy is the reason you can slag off anyone with any disease.
And if its a disease that is their own fault, you can slag off smokers with lung cancer. You also assume fat people don't pay tax.

Here's a suggestion, don't slag off people you don't know, and only slag people about things they aren't sensitive about?

Baby Jane · 28-02-2015 02:23AM

The comparison of slagging off overweight people to the KKK burning a cross (intimidation of a household) is maybe not quite like with like

- not that I think it's ok to slag off anyone for an aspect of their appearance, whether it's something that they can help or not.
I agree it doesn't make sense to compare excess weight with skin colour, but shouting abuse at someone because they are overweight is hardly reasonable behaviour, no matter how strong the feelings are regarding obesity.
The ginger hate thing is bizarre too I think. Bandwagon much of it, I'd assume.

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

As far as I'm concerned no hate speech should be illegal. Go ahead and bash me for that if you like, the beauty of free speech is that you can do so and I can't stop you

Beauty? Ok. Don't know if what you're talking about actually exists - not sure it would be a good thing if people could say whatever they like, wherever they like, to whom they like. What about those on the receiving end? In my opinion they have the right not to have abuse thrown at them - yeh I'd be happy with a world where it's not ok to shout insults at a stranger out a car window.

Despite saying you can't stop someone, you can surely use your "free speech" and defend yourself?

Bipolar Joe · 28-02-2015 02:57AM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

As far as I'm concerned no hate speech should be illegal. Go ahead and bash me for that if you like, the beauty of free speech is that you can do so and I can't stop you

Hate speech doesn't constitute free speech.

HardenendMan · 28-02-2015 02:59AM

Being ginger during school years is the biggest challenge you can face through life. Some are scared from it. I myself have grown because of it.

Being a fatty is no different than any other addiction. Eat too much = get fat = lower confidence = eat more = get fatter.

johnny osbourne · 28-02-2015 03:37AM

my son is a very obese kunt an anyone who slags him will get a kick in the hole

edit * do not have a son

foggy_lad · 28-02-2015 03:43AM

I can't decide if I'm a Fatty ginger or a Ginger fatty

johnny osbourne · 28-02-2015 03:53AM

nicole kidman

CJ Haughey · 28-02-2015 03:54AM

Are ginger biscuits in danger?

entropi · 28-02-2015 03:57AM

I reckon it would be easier to solve an obesity crisis, since there's no real way to hide the MC1R gene. Obesity itself can be helped with dietary plans and regular exercise (and in extreme cases, surgery).

hatrickpatrick · 28-02-2015 03:58AM

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

Hate speech doesn't constitute free speech.

That's the legal position, sure. Not everyone agrees with it, however.

CJ Haughey · 28-02-2015 03:58AM

entropi wrote: »

I reckon it would be easier to solve an obesity crisis, since there's no real way to hide the MC1R gene. Obesity itself can be helped with dietary plans and regular exercise (and in extreme cases, surgery).

Silage as a main diet is a solution.

Should fattys & gingers be offered legal protection from slagging

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