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Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Read Mod Warning in OP 7/1/15

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  • #8612
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    Deiseboy01 wrote: »
    Being naturally game smart enough not to require coaching

    So they're like unicorns and leprechauns then?


  • #8613
    Whatsisname
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭Whatsisname


    "Street footballer" Jesus Christ who let Jamie Redknapp in?


  • #8614
    Mantis Toboggan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,300 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Barcelona showing how to tear city apart, hope LVG is watching.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



  • #8615
    adox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,057 ✭✭✭✭adox


    Louis Van Haal wrote: »
    Barcelona showing how to tear city apart, hope LVG is watching.

    Bizzare.


  • #8616
    Vic Vinegar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,241 ✭✭✭Vic Vinegar


    Whatsisname wrote: »
    "Street footballer" Jesus Christ who let Jamie Redknapp in?

    It was Bangkok, as usual.


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  • #8617
    Whatsisname
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭Whatsisname


    Bombleswizzum wrote: »
    It was Bangkok, as usual.

    I know yeah, nothing new sure.


  • #8618
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    Sorry lads for using the term street footballer. I won't use football terms any more in a football forum


  • #8619
    squadro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭squadro


    Anyone for a game of subbuteo?


  • #8620
    K4t
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    Louis Van Haal wrote: »
    Barcelona showing how to tear city apart, hope LVG is watching.
    Might be watching Dortmund tear Juventus apart and realise Reus is a better player than Di Maria. . .


  • #8621
    Timmyctc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    K4t wrote: »
    Might be watching Dortmund tear Juventus apart and realise Reus is a better player than Di Maria. . .

    Its like you don't even put effort in anymore


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  • #8622
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    bangkok wrote: »
    Sorry lads for using the term street footballer. I won't use football terms any more in a football forum

    Use whatever terms you like, but if you can't explain what they mean when people don't understand, then you're sort of just making noises. That's all.


  • #8623
    K4t
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    Timmyctc wrote: »
    Its like you don't even put effort in anymore
    If you are asking whether I would have either of them over Welbeck, the answer is clearly No.


  • #8624
    Timmyctc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    K4t wrote: »
    If you are asking whether I would have either of them over Welbeck, the answer is clearly No.

    :pac: its like you're a parody of yourself. Why do you even bother anymore?


  • #8625
    bangkok
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,638 ✭✭✭✭bangkok


    Maximus Alexander wrote: »
    Use whatever terms you like, but if you can't explain what they mean when people don't understand, then you're sort of just making noises. That's all.

    I explained earlier, but I didn't think I needed to explain a fairly basic and well known football term


  • #8626
    K4t
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,362 ✭✭✭K4t


    Timmyctc wrote: »
    :pac: its like you're a parody of yourself. Why do you even bother anymore?
    :confused: Why bother when you're wrong? I'm right, you just don't know it yet.


  • #8627
    MythicalMadMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭MythicalMadMan


    TheDoc wrote: »
    To be honest Gary Neville put it best, if the club wanted to maintain a high tempo 4-4-2, they wouldn't have hired Van Gaal.

    I would have imagined there is a plan of development for the squad. And high on that is getting the play style nailed down in the first season, so that subsequent seasons it's not an issue and is second nature to the squad.

    This is a coach with big experience, and a pretty good track record in the Champions league. I can see the logic in what he is doing. Suffer the growing pains now, get back into the top 4, and next season have the players settled with the systems and his demands, that will be suitable for both domestic AND European style football.

    I think he also has to stick with his plan, as it will show those who are not suited to his style and demands, and they are the targets for removal

    This actually reminded me of a book I read The Power of Habit by Charles Duhigg (good read.

    In it was a chapter about Tony Dungy NFL manager who, with lots and lots of practice, taught his players a small number of important moves they could perform without thinking, even at the most crucial point in a game. Bad habits are overcome by learning new routines and practicing them over and over again.

    He took an under preforming team and even though they struggled in their first season in his 2nd they lost out in the plaf-offs eventually winning the superbowl in his 4th season.

    Obviously NFL and football are different sports but the point is if you trying to instill a new way of playing or "philosophy" it can take time for the players to fully understand it and even longer to become unconsiously competent in it.

    Nearly every team LVG has managed have struggled somewhat in its first season with him but we should still have plenty of hope that given time he will get it right


  • #8628
    irishfeen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    Daily Mail tonight reporting "David de Gea is closing in on a new long-term Manchester United contract after Real Madrid manager Carlo Ancelotti made clear he is happy with his goalkeeping options"

    Make of that what you will ... god twud be lovely news before the weekend though.


  • #8629
    The Moldy Gowl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    K4t wrote: »
    :confused: Why bother when you're wrong? I'm right, you just don't know it yet.

    This is art.


  • #8630
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Tony Dungy gave them the habit of having Manning as a QB alright which pretty much guarantees you a winning record and a playoff appearance, course he tends to **** the bed then unfortunately for him.

    Dungy was a good coach, but they certainly underachieved under his stewardship overall.


  • #8631
    Manutd_4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Manutd_4life


    irishfeen wrote: »
    Daily Mail tonight reporting "David de Gea is closing in on a new long-term Manchester United contract after Real Madrid manager Carlo Ancelotti made clear he is happy with his goalkeeping options"

    Make of that what you will ... god twud be lovely news before the weekend though.

    That would be great but it's the daily mail for f**k suck.


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  • #8632
    Bridge93
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Bridge93


    Give me Reus over Di Maria any day. Both wonderful players, I just feel Reus is the better in my opinion. I suppose we don't know what he would've cost had he left Dortmund?


  • #8633
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Football fans are actually like goldfish with the memories they have :) It is always, always highly amusing though


  • #8634
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,307 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    The reason Di Maria got on FIFA team of year is cause he is **** obviously.

    EVENFLOW



  • #8635
    The Moldy Gowl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    Bridge93 wrote: »
    Give me Reus over Di Maria any day. Both wonderful players, I just feel Reus is the better in my opinion. I suppose we don't know what he would've cost had he left Dortmund?

    Reus isn't dead or retired??


    And judging a players talent based on money is stupid.


  • #8636
    intellectual dosser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭intellectual dosser


    The_Kew_Tour wrote: »
    The reason Di Maria got on FIFA team of year is cause he is **** obviously.

    I think too much emphasis is put on the FIFA team of the year.

    David Luiz made the team after his travesty of a world cup.


  • #8637
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,307 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    intellectual dosser wrote: »
    I think too much emphasis is put on the FIFA team of the year.

    David Luiz made the team after his travesty of a world cup.

    Like to think he was one of the Good 11.

    Guess people think he is ****.

    EVENFLOW



  • #8638
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,199 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    The_Kew_Tour wrote: »
    The reason Di Maria got on FIFA team of year is cause he is **** obviously.

    Clearly what we need to do with a creative player like Di Maria is teach him a small number of important moves that he can perform without thinking.

    Conditioning, thats whats needed for these expensive yet volatile attackers. Remember Sammy Jankis!


  • #8639
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,307 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    My point at end if day is that we have a wonderful player in Di Maria.

    A CL winner and World Cup finalist and huge in both, but yet we are talking about him as if we could have done better.

    We bought one of best players in world. End of.

    EVENFLOW



  • #8640
    Mantis Toboggan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,300 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    The_Kew_Tour wrote: »
    My point at end if day is that we have a wonderful player in Di Maria.

    A CL winner and World Cup finalist and huge in both, but yet we are talking about him as if we could have done better.

    We bought one of best players in world. End of.

    Regardless of how good he has been in the past, we've paid 60 million for him and he's obeen terrible so far for us. Whatever about his poor performances there's no excuse for poor work rate. He really needs to toughen up to make it in the premier league. So far he's been getting knocked off the ball all too easy.

    Free Palestine 🇵🇸



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  • #8641
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,307 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Louis Van Haal wrote: »
    Regardless of how good he has been in the past, we've paid 60 million for him and he's obeen terrible so far for us. Whatever about his poor performances there's no excuse for poor work rate. He really needs to toughen up to make it in the premier league. So far he's been getting knocked off the ball all too easy.

    Nearly every player at United has been poor in fairness.

    EVENFLOW



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