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Do the Irish have an inferiority complex?

  • 23-02-2015 11:16PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭


    I think we do. It's in our psyche to feel inferior to others. We feel inferior to the more powerful British for one. Most Irish people have an inferiority complex, me included, as much as I hate to admit it. We are second class citizens. We 'make do' with what we have.

    It might have something to do with the church. I think it's changing but I resent it. It's held me back in life.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    It's held me back in life.

    It's probably just you then, lots of us are doing grand even with that massive chip on our shoulder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,711 ✭✭✭stimpson


    I think our inferiority complex is better than the British one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    It's held me back in life.

    Well... that and your flippers and huge teeth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Probably more to do with various British invasions than the church. Irish were viewed very low in magazines like Punch. Same with work signs in the USA 'no Irish need apply' Combination of our history, not a new thing, goes back hundreds of years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭66ad


    I think we do. It's in our psyche to feel inferior to others. We feel inferior to the more powerful British for one. Most Irish people have an inferiority complex, me included, as much as I hate to admit it. We are second class citizens. We 'make do' with what we have.

    It might have something to do with the church. I think it's changing but I resent it. It's held me back in life.

    Will you go away out of that, and get back in your box.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 567 ✭✭✭millie35


    stimpson wrote: »
    I think our inferiority complex is better than the British one.

    anything they can do, we can do better


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,247 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    Generally, yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭pidgeoneyes


    Not me. I'm great!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭kingchess


    Well,at least we can console ourselves that -thank Christ-we are not Welsh. (only joking)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Dr. Kenneth Noisewater


    I actually think I'm class. Especially when compared to the British. Or anyone for that matter.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    We're all equally inferior to robots :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,401 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    Only in places like killinaskully.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Balls.

    Grand place this, full of cnuts granted, but so is everywhere. I've never bowed or knelt or tipped my hst to anyone in my life because I felt beneath them, load a shíte.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 JAMES VI


    Oh I dunno about that, Sir! If I may? I think... Oh no, you wouldn't want to hear what I think I'd assume. Oh well, thanks for taking the time to read my post, I really appreciate somebody like you taking the time to read my post. Thank you. Please, please. Thank you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭Matta Harri


    Ah we probably do. I couldn't escape it anyway.

    Britian is better than Ireland.
    The rest of the country is superior to the west.
    Galway and Mayo are nicer than Roscommon.
    The South of the Roscommon is better the us in the middle.
    That parish is classier than our one.
    That half parish had better footballers than here.
    The neighbours have better land than us etc etc.

    I never had a hope.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭IamtheWalrus


    I'm not talking about the self-esteem of individuals. I'm talking about the Irish as a nation. There is a subconscious undercurrent of inferiority. You think you're doing well in life but only by judging yourself on a limited Irish scale.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    I'm not talking about the self-esteem of individuals. I'm talking about the Irish as a nation. There is a subconscious undercurrent of inferiority. You think you're doing well in life but only by judging yourself on a limited Irish scale.

    You are correct. Individually we are normal enough but have a collective self-disregard.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I'm not talking about the self-esteem of individuals. I'm talking about the Irish as a nation. There is a subconscious undercurrent of inferiority. You think you're doing well in life but only by judging yourself on a limited Irish scale.

    Balls again. I'm in Ireland.

    I've got a little black book with my poems in
    Got a bag with a toothbrush and a comb in
    When I'm a good dog they sometimes throw me a bone in

    I got 569 channels of shít on the TV to choose from

    I got electric light

    I got a silver spoon on a chain
    Got a grand piano to prop up my mortal remains.

    We got it good here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,014 ✭✭✭eamonnq


    When I pick up the phone............theres still nobody home.

    or something like that...........oh babe.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭philstar


    we're a good for nothing race...

    ....the only thing we're good for is getting drunk and planting bombs


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  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm not talking about the self-esteem of individuals. I'm talking about the Irish as a nation. There is a subconscious undercurrent of inferiority. You think you're doing well in life but only by judging yourself on a limited Irish scale.

    "Sure everyone loves the Irish"

    "We're the best fans in the world"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,730 ✭✭✭AllGunsBlazing


    philstar wrote: »
    ....the only thing we're good for is getting drunk and planting bombs

    And we're not even top of the pile in the whole terrorism lark anymore.

    How are we supposed to compete suicide bombs, mass shootings and ritual beheading?!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭darkdubh


    Well at least we realised that cricket is **** unlike most former British colonies.We have that to be thankful for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    I got elastic bands keeping my shoes on
    Got those swollen hand blues.



    But then, I am not in Ireland so it may not be relevant.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,628 ✭✭✭darkdubh


    philstar wrote: »
    we're a good for nothing race...

    ....the only thing we're good for is getting drunk and planting bombs

    In the same order?No wonder the Muslims have passed us out in the latter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,784 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Probably more to do with various British invasions than the church. Irish were viewed very low in magazines like Punch. Same with work signs in the USA 'no Irish need apply' Combination of our history, not a new thing, goes back hundreds of years.

    Some people think the No Irish Need Apply is an urban myth. Can you prove it ever happened?

    http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/no-such-thing-as-no-irish-need-apply-signs-argues-history-professor-211727201-237597051.html

    The fact that Irish vividly "remember" NINA signs is a curious historical puzzle. There are no contemporary or retrospective accounts of a specific sign at a specific location. No particular business enterprise is named as a culprit. No historian, archivist, or museum curator has ever located one ; no photograph or drawing exists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭Kiwi in IE


    I wouldn't be in the slightest bit suprised if there was a national inferiority complex. The first cultural milestone for the majority of you is to be taken to be cleansed of some imaginary 'sin' a few weeks after birth, and then if the 'sin' indoctrination doesn't continue at home, 97% of primary schools will fix that! Hardly self esteem building I'd imagine!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    Kiwi in IE wrote: »
    I wouldn't be in the slightest bit suprised if there was a national inferiority complex. The Catholic church is hardly self esteem building is it? The first cultural milestone for the majority of you is to be taken to be cleansed of some imaginary 'sin' a few weeks after you are born, and then if the 'sin' indoctrination doesn't continue at home, 97% of primary schools will fix that!

    And yet the 1.2 billion or so other catholics and a billion or so other christians don't seem to have that inferiority complex.

    ( although you quite clearly feel superior).

    No quite simply. We don't for sure have a superiority complex - there's no tradition of feeling superior to our neighbours, there are no English jokes, and we've internalised a general dislike of our own culture.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,915 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    We have a curious condition where we hate ourselves but think we are better than everyone else.


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