Etiquette on public transport

Dingle_berry · 21-02-2015 09:02PM

In no particular order:
People picking their nose & the way they dispose of the fruits of their labour. Coughing and sneezing without covering it.
People spreading out and taking up more room than they paid for. Bags on seats, magazines and newspapers on tables, legs spread, etc.
Noise pollution. Shïtty headphones, loud phone calls, loud conversations in general. Usually about coronation street or the cheek of the child minder to look for an hour off. People chewing and sucking on things that you can hear from the opposite end of the vehicle.
People with bags or 'large waists' that can't walk down the aisle without hitting people sitting in their seats.

Why the f¥<£ do people on trains get up and que for the door after the second last stop, que down the aisle from the door, stand there for a good 10-15 minutes, then when the doors open and the que moves they stand there insisting that everyone sitting down get off before them??? What's the point?

DEFTLEFTHAND · 21-02-2015 09:03PM

Rough Sleeper wrote: »

I think being so easily upset that you get annoyed by people eating crisps on the bus probably counts as some sort of mild mental impairment.

It's a neuropsychiatric disorder known as Misophonia. I suffer from it myself albeit in a mild form.

In extreme cases the noise or sound which triggers the irritation can lead to a sufferer acting out violently.

emuhead · 21-02-2015 09:23PM

I would wager every one of us on public transport would rather have a free seat next to us. I would anyway.

Putting your bag on the seat next to you can be passive aggressively intentioned, but not always. Also, it's unfair to those of us who have the manners to operate in a social space and don't put bags on the seat next to us. We are the ones that are least likely to have a free seat beside us, and those who put bags on the seat next to them, regardless of the protestations about how they are ready to move them etc. are most likely to have a free seat beside them. I think that is why it is unfair and selfish. On people looking for a seat who have to ask the person to move the bag, but also on people who have better manners.

Barna77 · 21-02-2015 10:51PM

Ososlo wrote: »

It is a big deal because it's really rude and most of us abhor rudeness.
Put your bag on your lap like everyone else if it's small. If it's big it should be in the luggage area.
Most people with bags on the seats are also wearing headphones and oblivious to surroundings so are we supposed to tap them gently on the arm and plead to some better part of their nature to do what any reasonable human being would automatically do and put their fcuking bag on their lap.
It's fine if the bus is next to empty but once there is a single person filling up all the seats around you then move the damn bag.

I commute outbound in the mornings and vice versa in the evenings, so the train is never really that full. So yeah I leave my gym bag beside me, and honestly it doesn't mean "stay away from me". If the train fills up -it sort of does at the station before mine- I will put it on my lap without even been asked. Simple.

Dart doesn't have a luggage area, and floor is generally filthy to leave anything there...

bodice ripper · 21-02-2015 10:55PM

I don't have to put my bag up to keep the seat free, I have the side of my head tattooed.

hollster2 · 21-02-2015 10:57PM

bodice ripper wrote: »

I don't have to put my bag up to keep the seat free, I have the side of my head tattooed.

So you think people avoid sitting beside you cause of tattoos? that wouldn't bother me at all!

bodice ripper · 21-02-2015 10:59PM

hollster2 wrote: »

So you think people avoid sitting beside you cause of tattoos? that wouldn't bother me at all!

Works better over here in the Netherlands than it does in Dublin.

Defo keeps the people with kids away, which I think we all know is the main thing.

Tarzana2 · 21-02-2015 11:23PM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Would you have anyone in mind that you'd ask to move? I'm not being mean - just curious. I would always offer my seat to someone who needed it more, but sometimes I suffer with sciatica, and I actually feel like I'm twisted when I stand up. To look at me, there's nothing wrong with me but if I was standing or walking for a period of time, Id be in tears.

Now if a woman holding her bump and rubbing her belly was to ask me for my seat, out of mortification Id give it to her because you know, she has a bump and I don't, but I wouldn't have offered the seat because when it's that bad I wouldn't be able to stand.

It's a good point. Just because someone is young doesn't mean they don't need the seat. And then there's the minefield of offering your seat to someone you think looks pregnant. It's tricky. Elderly people are the only safe bet.

seventeen sheep · 22-02-2015 06:36AM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Would you have anyone in mind that you'd ask to move? I'm not being mean - just curious. I would always offer my seat to someone who needed it more, but sometimes I suffer with sciatica, and I actually feel like I'm twisted when I stand up. To look at me, there's nothing wrong with me but if I was standing or walking for a period of time, Id be in tears.

Now if a woman holding her bump and rubbing her belly was to ask me for my seat, out of mortification Id give it to her because you know, she has a bump and I don't, but I wouldn't have offered the seat because when it's that bad I wouldn't be able to stand.

I'd have asked at one of the tables of four people if one of them might be willing to give me a seat, to avoid putting any one person on the spot, as I'm aware not all disablities etc are visible. As I said, though, the situation rarely arose. I was usually offered a seat anyways.

Crumbs868 · 22-02-2015 06:42AM

Something that is getting worse and worse is people's manners disbarking a plane. It's getting more common for people sitting behind you to try to block you from exiting your row and joining the aisle. I make it my business to stick my foot out and give a dirty look.

ArseBurger · 23-02-2015 02:12AM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Otherwise it would be an offence to have it up when the child was not in the car.

Why should everything be an offence or legislated against?

I love the Irish self absorbed attitude of "I think it's wrong, therefore it's illegal. If it's not it should be!"

AudreyHepburn · 23-02-2015 09:03AM

Tarzana2 wrote: »

Yeah, the bags on seats thing isn't the big deal people make out, most people are happy to move their bag and will do so once they see that the bus/carriage is filling up. As said earlier in the thread, some of us like to avoid putting our bags on the ground on public transport as it's often filthy. So they put the bag next to them or on their lap if the seat is needed.

Getting someone to move their bag in an nearly empty space just to spite them is a needless and passive-aggressive move. Why? Just why?

As most of us have already said, over and over, the problem is not so much when it's quiet but when it's busy.

You shouldn't have to be asked to move your bag either....that just smacks of selfishness tbh.

AudreyHepburn · 23-02-2015 09:08AM

bnt wrote: »

Re the OP's complaint about people standing near the door: I have to do that when the LUAS is going to be really packed. If I don't, then I can't get off at my stop. If I know I'm getting off at the last stop (e.g. St. Stephen's Green)l, then I move in as far as possible. My point is just that people who don't move down all the way aren't necessarily being difficult, it's sometimes necessary.
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But that's my point, it's not necessary to block the doors and stop people getting on and off just because you want to make life easier for yourself....it just smacks of self entitlement and selfishness.

The bus/train/luas will always linger for a few minutes so you can get on/off...there's plenty of time to get to the door.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 23-02-2015 09:52AM

ArseBurger wrote: »

Why should everything be an offence or legislated against?

I love the Irish self absorbed attitude of "I think it's wrong, therefore it's illegal. If it's not it should be!"

If It was really supposed to alert emergency services that there was a "baby on board" rather than alert the rest of us that they've expelled a crotch goblin, Id imagine at the scene of an accident where there was a sign present, and the child hadnt been in the car at the time of the accident, imagine how much time the emergency services would waste looking for a baby that wasn't even there??
So yeah, if that stupid sign really was for alerting emergency services (if the big car seat wasn't enough) then they'd have to take it down when the kid wasn't in the car.

Tarzana2 · 23-02-2015 10:28AM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

You shouldn't have to be asked to move your bag either....that just smacks of selfishness tbh.

I agree.

But someone earlier in the thread said they beeline for people who have their bags on the seat, even if the space is nearly empty. That's just passive aggressive nonsense.

Tarzana2 · 23-02-2015 10:29AM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

The bus/train/luas will always linger for a few minutes so you can get on/off...there's plenty of time to get to the door.

No, there actually isn't at peak times or on busy routes. Have often seen people desperately trying to get off the bus or Luas and not making it to the door on time.

liz lemoncello · 23-02-2015 05:36PM

I'm grateful that I don't ride the bus this jerk is on. There have been two incidents with him, and the first video infuriates me. I honestly don't know what I'd do if I ever came across him.

Apologies to all Irish people for the nickname the guy has been given.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/09/25/leprechaun-who-denied-woman-a-seat-on-crowded-ttc-bus-shamed-on-social-media/

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/02/03/ttc-leprechaun-pape-bus_n_6600738.html

ArseBurger · 24-02-2015 12:27AM

LexieOnRale wrote: »

If It was really supposed to alert emergency services that there was a "baby on board" rather than alert the rest of us that they've expelled a crotch goblin, Id imagine at the scene of an accident where there was a sign present, and the child hadnt been in the car at the time of the accident, imagine how much time the emergency services would waste looking for a baby that wasn't even there??
So yeah, if that stupid sign really was for alerting emergency services (if the big car seat wasn't enough) then they'd have to take it down when the kid wasn't in the car.

crotch goblin is a little extreme isn't it? I'm not a fan of children or people parading them about and using them to prove some sort of superiority either. However, when I was an Ambulance Man we would take account of those signs just in case and use a little more effort and time just to make sure.

Pinch Flat · 24-02-2015 12:33AM

ArseBurger wrote: »

crotch goblin is a little extreme isn't it? I'm not a fan of children or people parading them about and using them to prove some sort of superiority either. However, when I was an Ambulance Man we would take account of those signs just in case and use a little more effort and time just to make sure.

We were all crotch groblins at some point.....:pac:

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 24-02-2015 01:26AM

ArseBurger wrote: »

crotch goblin is a little extreme isn't it? I'm not a fan of children or people parading them about and using them to prove some sort of superiority either. However, when I was an Ambulance Man we would take account of those signs just in case and use a little more effort and time just to make sure.

I'm sure you did. :rolleyes: don't a lot of those fall down on impact anyway? Considering it's only suction keeping them up?

GalwayGuitar · 24-02-2015 01:36AM

hollster2 wrote: »

So you think people avoid sitting beside you cause of tattoos? that wouldn't bother me at all!

His head tattoo probably does make him look mental in fairness.

garra · 24-02-2015 02:13AM

Crumbs868 wrote: »

Something that is getting worse and worse is people's manners disbarking a plane. It's getting more common for people sitting behind you to try to block you from exiting your row and joining the aisle. I make it my business to stick my foot out and give a dirty look.

I love skipping the queue at Dublin airport by sitting in the seats beside the queue and then just standing up in the middle of it when the gate opens. It really winds up the foreigners who enjoy nothing more than standing in a queue for a good half hour. Happy days!!

bodhrandude · 24-02-2015 02:37AM

Ososlo wrote: »

To me and everyone else I've spoken to about it, seeing a bag on a seat sends out the exact message of 'don't sit besides me'. So armed with this newfound information,would you consider not doing it anymore? You also just said you'd rather people not sit beside you so more than likely you look annoyed when people do ask!

So what do you want us to do, keep it on our back so our journey is uncomfortable with the bag sticking out of our back, sometimes I just leave it at my feet and sometimes will put it in the chair beside me, but as everyone else says when the bus fills up I either put it on my lap or at my feet.

Ososlo · 24-02-2015 10:24AM

bodhrandude wrote: »

So what do you want us to do, keep it on our back so our journey is uncomfortable with the bag sticking out of our back, sometimes I just leave it at my feet and sometimes will put it in the chair beside me, but as everyone else says when the bus fills up I either put it on my lap or at my feet.

Large bags should be put in luggage area if there is one. Otherwise put under your feet or lap or on seat if bus empty. But here's the important bit. You take it off the seat if the bus is starting to fill up. If there is at least one person in each seat around you, take it off the seat or a bit before that. No one should have to ask you to remove it. It's as much their seat as yours so there should be no need for any interaction between you and another bus user.

fryup · 24-02-2015 10:39AM

NachoBusiness wrote: »

I must be one of the few people who couldn't give a fcuk about people eating on public transport. Why should I be bothered by some fcuker having something to it? I mean, if they make a racket or get some on me, I'd be annoyed but just sitting there minding their own business eating? None of my bloody business tbf.

depends what they're eating, if its a bar of chocolate no problem,

but if its a kebab or burger that reeks of onions and ketchup then yes i do mind

Lucyfur · 24-02-2015 10:55AM

I was on a train for 3 hours today.

I saw/heard/smelt

-a man eating a fried egg sammich
-a man laughing uproariously at something on his laptop
-a man with a whole peacock of feathers in his hat
-a lady apply false nails, which she painted. Then she applied a full face of makeup while listening to loud music through not very good headphones
-a lady who ate a big salad. At 6.30 am
-a boy shout at his tablet. Guessing it may be the son of VeryAngryMan. Was VeryAngryBoy
-and I listened to the life story of an elderly gentleman. Was a lovely story

I used to hate public transport. I think I love it now

Lucyfur · 24-02-2015 04:15PM

Lucyfur wrote: »

I was on a train for 3 hours today.

I saw/heard/smelt

-a man eating a fried egg sammich
-a man laughing uproariously at something on his laptop
-a man with a whole peacock of feathers in his hat
-a lady apply false nails, which she painted. Then she applied a full face of makeup while listening to loud music through not very good headphones
-a lady who ate a big salad. At 6.30 am
-a boy shout at his tablet. Guessing it may be the son of VeryAngryMan. Was VeryAngryBoy
-and I listened to the life story of an elderly gentleman. Was a lovely story

I used to hate public transport. I think I love it now

Ha!! Now I am the annoying passenger.

I had a lully and successful day and to celebrate I had just one glass of wine. I am pissed after that one glass so today I will be your wine smelling crisp eating passenger.

I soww!!

NachoBusiness · 24-02-2015 05:04PM

fryup wrote: »

..if its a kebab or burger that reeks of onions and ketchup then yes i do mind

Ah ffs, it's not as if they're slicing up onions on a chopping board beside you now is it. It's a slice of onion or two with maybe a dollop of ketchup. Hardly gonna create an odor so bad that you can't enjoy your journey because of it. I bet if you were sitting beside a friend indoors somewhere and they were eating something with onion and ketchup you wouldn't be so bothered.

Show a little tolerance. Whatever they're eating, they'll be done soon enough.

Nassau · 24-02-2015 05:43PM

NachoBusiness wrote: »

Ah ffs, it's not as if they're slicing up onions on a chopping board beside you now is it. It's a slice of onion or two with maybe a dollop of ketchup. Hardly gonna create an odor so bad that you can't enjoy your journey because of it. I bet if you were sitting beside a friend indoors somewhere and they were eating something with onion and ketchup you wouldn't be so bothered.

Show a little tolerance. Whatever they're eating, they'll be done soon enough.

Sat across from a lady on a Bus Eireann journey who ate a raw white pudding like a banana. Don't know how she opened it but it stank the bus out and it was a near non-stop 1.5 hour journey.

Tiddlypeeps · 24-02-2015 07:27PM

Nassau wrote: »

Sat across from a lady on a Bus Eireann journey who ate a raw white pudding like a banana. Don't know how she opened it but it stank the bus out and it was a near non-stop 1.5 hour journey.

:eek:

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