Cheltenham Festival 2015

jimjamcos · 18-02-2015 11:25PM

rossom wrote: »

Think he looks a monster but wouldn't touch him at the prices. Will see what price is on the day/size of field. Bar L'Ami Serge it looks a really poor group that'll be turning up in opposition.

Not the greatest race alright but if something like Shaneshill goes hard from the front he'll be tested. Just seen Mullins interview from today though. Don't think I've ever seen him as confident about a novice, ridiculously bullish on Douvan.

rossom · 18-02-2015 11:35PM

jimjamcos wrote: »

Not the greatest race alright but if something like Shaneshill goes hard from the front he'll be tested. Just seen Mullins interview from today though. Don't think I've ever seen him as confident about a novice, ridiculously bullish on Douvan.

Yeah he is and Willie isn't one to overhype a horse.

posturingpat · 18-02-2015 11:44PM

Douvans the super star Novice yet allez colombrieres was the star until he unfortunately died. Then Nichols canyon was the star for a while,im not falling for the hype.

Anyone thinking of backing douvan should watch the 2nd horse from douvans last race in his previous race over 3 mile he looked slow and a future staying chaser so beating him comfortably over 2 mile is something any decent 2 mile novice hurdler should be doing.

madmoose · 18-02-2015 11:49PM

7/4 is mental considering vautour was so 7/2 and beat a top field looking back, betfair hurdle winner, greatwood winner, grade 1 aintree winner turned out of that race with more good types.

Also im a believer of laws of averages so mullins/walsh/ricci due a supreme loss after winning the last two.

sizing europe · 19-02-2015 12:10AM

jimjamcos wrote: »

Not the greatest race alright but if something like Shaneshill goes hard from the front he'll be tested. Just seen Mullins interview from today though. Don't think I've ever seen him as confident about a novice, ridiculously bullish on Douvan.

Lads . just remember the most hyped of his novices last year. Briar hill and look at what happened that horse since. At every preview night he was at Patrick Mullins was raving about briar hill saying its the best of the mullins novices even better than faugheen and vatour.. The hyping of douvan reminds me exactly of what they done to briar hill.. I will certainly avoiding douvan without question

madmoose · 19-02-2015 12:23AM

Briar was no faugheen or vautour but he has ability deep down, im sure he would of been in the frame if he hadnt fell at chelt as he had given very wood a beating giving weight previous. That fall no doubt ruined his confidence and last sun he looked better before falling at the last the poor fella! Could of been a top horse but not faugheens class.

YoungKhalifa · 19-02-2015 12:41AM

Excellent performance by Devilment today. Wonder if he'll go for the Triumph now. What does that say about Pain Au Chocolat's form who I strongly fancy for the Triumph Hurdle, as he beat Devilment by 3 lengths last month.

jimjamcos · 19-02-2015 01:03AM

sizing europe wrote: »

Lads . just remember the most hyped of his novices last year. Briar hill and look at what happened that horse since. At every preview night he was at Patrick Mullins was raving about briar hill saying its the best of the mullins novices even better than faugheen and vatour.. The hyping of douvan reminds me exactly of what they done to briar hill.. I will certainly avoiding douvan without question

Patrick was putting BH up as his nap at Preview Nights alright but at no stage did he say he was the best of their novices. Just said that he was a lazy type but that he'd a world of ability and was fancied. Anyway it's Willie's comments below I was referring too as Patrick is well versed is playing to the hype of Preview Nights at this stage. As Rossom said, such comments by Willie are rare...

""He’s been marked in for the Supreme for some time now and we’ll take anything on. He’s just got lots of natural ability and every question we ask him, he has the answers to. He’s one of the nicest horses we have ever had going to Cheltenham."

dickenson famous5 · 19-02-2015 06:37AM

Triumph hurdle thoughts any one think J P Mcmanus horse Hargam got a chance i think he wil be thereabouts at the finish thanks

YoungKhalifa · 19-02-2015 07:16AM

Hargam hasn't really beaten anything and 6/1 for such a competitive race is much too short for me. That said he looks a decent prospect and definitely holds a chance.

Shemale · 19-02-2015 07:59AM

To be fair to Patrick he is nowhere near as guarded as his dad or Ruby.

19-02-2015 08:09AM

Happened to be speaking with Tony and Danny Mullins recently and they both said Douvan is an unbelievable horse and would not be beaten. Tony also remarked that Willie told him Douvan is the best novice he's ever had.

Douvan is skinny enough in the betting and probably deserves to be considering Ruby hasn't ever asked the horse for any serious effort despite winning well and easily

I know Willie cant win everything but I think this is one race he wont be leaving behind.

madmoose · 19-02-2015 08:23AM

dickenson famous5 wrote: »

Triumph hurdle thoughts any one think J P Mcmanus horse Hargam got a chance i think he wil be thereabouts at the finish thanks

I do fancy him to win this, if he gets into a battle with peace and co with the champ on his back id fancy him to come up trumps.

Gavin "shels" · 19-02-2015 09:23AM

Apollo_Creed wrote: »

Paddy Power giving 8/11 that McCoy will ride Carlingford Lough in the Gold Cup over Holywell (Evs). Am I missing something or is that a great price? McManus will insist that McCoy rides his horse.

Channel4Racing
7 mins ·
AP McCoy has announced in his blog for Cheltenham Racecourse that CARLINGFORD LOUGH, on whom he won the Irish Hennessy, will be his final Cheltenham Gold Cup ride.

posturingpat · 19-02-2015 09:23AM

Mc coy confirms he rides Carlingford lough in the gold cup unsurprisingly.

YoungKhalifa · 19-02-2015 09:38AM

The World Hurdle is thrown wide open with More of That very unlikely to compete. Beat That is possibly the best bet at the moment.

zpehtsfd · 19-02-2015 09:39AM

sizing europe wrote: »

Lads . just remember the most hyped of his novices last year. Briar hill and look at what happened that horse since. At every preview night he was at Patrick Mullins was raving about briar hill saying its the best of the mullins novices even better than faugheen and vatour.. The hyping of douvan reminds me exactly of what they done to briar hill.. I will certainly avoiding douvan without question

Forget Briar Hill, what about the year before re. Pont Alexandre

"After his latest victory, Mullins said of Pont Alexandre: “He looks to be one of the best novice hurdlers we've had, apart maybe from Hurricane Fly"

Hype fills the bookies satchels.

jimjamcos · 19-02-2015 09:49AM

zpehtsfd wrote: »

Forget Briar Hill, what about the year before re. Pont Alexandre

"After his latest victory, Mullins said of Pont Alexandre: “He looks to be one of the best novice hurdlers we've had, apart maybe from Hurricane Fly"

Hype fills the bookies satchels.

You're actually spot on about Pont Alexandre, Willie was indeed bullish about him. He didn't have the pace of Douvan though. FWIW I wouldn't be backing Douvan. Mullins can't win all 4 surely and I think the other 3 shorties have much less to prove.

nobody told me · 19-02-2015 10:00AM

So young went off 7/4 for a novice hurdle one year after being proclaimed as the 2nd coming. Douvan could well win but at the prices it has to be a watching brief. Tom mullins is also full of sh1t

NaiveMelodies · 19-02-2015 10:07AM

People shouldn't be using a trainers comments as a primary reason as to why they should back a horse, especially a talented novice.
Mullins definitely thinks the horse is very good, but he's been wrong before and will be wrong again. He doesn't have a crystal ball and horses are animals(not machines).
Personally I think the price is plenty short enough for a novice event given what I know.
Unless your really tuned in to form, the horses scope etc. and the same for the others that line up I'd think it would be hard to justify a serious bet.

dickenson famous5 · 19-02-2015 10:10AM

madmoose wrote: »

I do fancy him to win this, if he gets into a battle with peace and co with the champ on his back id fancy him to come up trumps.

Been impressed with is times jp usually has a few winners at the festival hope this one its the net

dickenson famous5 · 19-02-2015 11:04AM

Any ideas on the champion bumper in my mind vigil must have a an ew chance performed well on the track last year dont know if he as been saved for this or as he had injury and to late to go hurdling any information

jimjamcos · 19-02-2015 11:11AM

dickenson famous5 wrote: »

Any ideas on the champion bumper in my mind vigil must have a an ew chance performed well on the track last year dont know if he as been saved for this or as he had injury and to late to go hurdling any information

Up For Review.

Volvic12 · 19-02-2015 11:16AM

YoungKhalifa wrote: »

The World Hurdle is thrown wide open with More of That very unlikely to compete. Beat That is possibly the best bet at the moment.

Any chance Annie Power will go for this? Wasn't far away last year.

deccy15 · 19-02-2015 11:17AM

dickenson famous5 wrote: »

Any ideas on the champion bumper in my mind vigil must have a an ew chance performed well on the track last year dont know if he as been saved for this or as he had injury and to late to go hurdling any information

Up for Review for me. Was very impressive in what usually turns out to be a quite good bumper. Silver Concorde won same race last year!!

Oscars Well. · 19-02-2015 11:20AM

Another crack at the bumper has been the plan for Vigil for a long time

posturingpat · 19-02-2015 11:30AM

The Pipe horse looks very good but he's not a trainer i'd associate with the bumper and he hasn't had a prep. Moon racer 12/1. Gigginstown will have a strong hand too now whoever they send now they've decided to let theirs go.

kfallon · 19-02-2015 12:03PM

Boyles special - 19/1 Coneygree (RSA) and The New One

No thanks!

Anyone got the Powers one for today?

irish_major · 19-02-2015 12:24PM

kfallon wrote: »

Boyles special - 19/1 Coneygree (RSA) and The New One

No thanks!

Anyone got the Powers one for today?

Thats the worst one i've ever seen!

posturingpat · 19-02-2015 12:29PM

Paddy powers' The New One and Petit Zig at 19/1 for anyone interested.

Cheltenham Festival 2015

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