Cheltenham Festival 2015

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Bet void if both don't run...

Apollo_Creed wrote: »

Paddy Power giving 8/11 that McCoy will ride Carlingford Lough in the Gold Cup over Holywell (Evs). Am I missing something or is that a great price? McManus will insist that McCoy rides his horse.

PP cut Holywell by 1 points into 7/1 today while they pushed Carlingford Lough out 2 points to 10/1. Coincidence?

zpehtsfd wrote: »

PP cut Holywell by 1 points into 7/1 today while they pushed Carlingford Lough out 2 points to 10/1. Coincidence?

Looks the correct pricing, and I think most would pick Holywell over CL.

You would wonder though, it's a very specific special so perhaps there have been murmurs.

Holywell is owned by Derrick Smith's wife. Given JP's Coolmore connections, it would not be a major surprise if he did offer McCoy the choice if both horses run.

That 8/11 for McCoy to ride CL in the Gold Cup is a banker. The only way he wouldn't ride him is if he doesn't run.

Uxizandre was a 33/1 shot last year hence why McCoy was on TDS.

Either way, this is the Gold Cup and Carlingford Lough is definitely a horse that you'd expect would have a live chance. McManus will definitely not let McCoy ride Holywell.

McCoy has talked openly about his love for Carlingford Lough for a long long time. Also add in the fact it's his last Gold Cup, anyone who believes he won't ride I the McManus colours in his last gold cup & possibly last race in Cheltenham need their head checked. A friend of mine spoke with Kiely after the Lexus & they think he's got a right chance of winning the the Gold Cup. They felt he left the RSA behind him last year but Kiely said that they possibly ran him too much last year & he was a tired horse going to Cheltenham.

kfallon wrote: »

Because he beat Somersby and a horse who was coming back off a very long absence??

I don't rate DB at all tbh, would rather back Champagne Fever.

Bit harsh. He beat a good yard stick in Somersby in the Tingle Creek and then improved even further in his last run in beating SS. Hes certainly a much animal this year. Started of the year rated 155 and is now 171.

Somersby was 2nd in this race last year so I think he could place again at massive odds especially with question marks over most of the market leaders.

Its a pity what happened Oscar Whiskey because I think he could of ran a cracker in this race.

Peintre Celebre wrote: »

People are saying Dodging Bullets looks a new horse etc, there is something about him I'll never warm to. Two seasons as a novice hurdler, he should have been competitive in his second Supreme with his experience and he ran muck. He's disappointed at every Festival he's turned up at, lest not forget he looked good last season too as a novice before he blew up. I wouldn't be putting a huge amount of faith in him. There's something about flat breds over fences in particular at the festival I'm somewhat skeptical about

Spot on. He's shortened to 4/1 in last few days after Nicholls said he should be fav at a Preview after Ascot on Saturday. Along with another flat bred Parlour Games, I think he's set to be one of the worst bets of the festival. Everyone seems to be of the opinion that Nicholls has turned him inside out but given, as you say, he's shown plenty before the Spring before, he's still got it all to prove. Even aside from that and regardless if Sprinter Sacre is back or not, Dodging Bullets was at it a fair way out last time and I'd be amazed if he travelled well enough in a race of Championship pace to figure. Know it's a cliche but Nicholls, with a championship in mind, would have known he could make hay with a fit horse in the division pre festival but I'd be amazed if better ground, a stronger pace and classier horses didn't leave him trailing come March.

Re flat breds, I swore never again after getting caught up in Minsk hysteria, last year I let my mates dad who is a very astute judge convince me to back Broughton.

I like nicholls,he comes across as fairly honest compared to some trainers like McCain.However I have noted especially in the last couple of years at festivel previews he does over talk his horses chances up.Didnt he only have one winner last year and it was in a handicapp?

I'm hearing about the Paddy Power daily 25 day countdown specials but I can't see any mention of them anywhere on the site. Does anyone know where they are available to view?

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